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Thanks @Leo Gura yeah I just naturally closed my eyes. I really hope that vinegar mix works (25%vin) , cause I do really want to try plugging. To extend that state would be absolutely mind boggling. It's hard to even think of what it would be like with my eyes open haha. I'll try to keep my eyes open next time I smoke it, and definitely try plugging once we get the vinegar concentrate mixture confirmation for freebase. After I got out, I intuited that that fractal is basically the fabric of everything. All life, all objects, all reality. But agree with you with keeping my eyes open. Not even sure if its possible while smoking it tho to be honest. And yes I am totally prepared with the mushrooms. Basically will only be microdosing that.

I smoked 10mgs in a glass pipe. Sandwiched with mullein leaf. I was worried it wouldn't work. But as soon as I took the first rip, I took another hit and everything cherried then proceeded to hold it in for as long as possible. I looked down at my hand and could see tracers kindof tracing into my beds quit pattern at which point I knew it was coming on and I just lied down. I guess I closed my eyes too. My sense of self and reality completely dissolved. What happened next is difficult to describe. I didn't resist it at all. As @Leo Gura said way back in this thread, I shutter to even imagine anyone resisting THAT. I guess you could say I saw fractals. Infinite fractals. Infinite patterns. Infinite colors. Impossible to put into words. It was like a full body cosmic orgasm. Everything was swirling and swooshing. Then there was darkness, which turned into more patterns. Which then turned into a central point, which moved around. Pulsating and swirling in the most beautiful geometric pattern I have ever seen. Nothing was good, nothing was bad. It just was. Again, even this description doesn't do it justice. When I came out of it , its like reality reappeared, in the opposite fashion of dissolving. I had my eyes fixated on this center point on a wall and it was like that center point was going "ohm" (without any noise) then I looked up at the ceiling and could still see patterns going on. Similar to how you look up at the ceiling and "trip" on other phycs. But this time, more beautiful patterns than I have ever seen. Literally all I said was WOW. Like 7 , 8 or 10 times. With the biggest shit eating grin on my face. Still in pure Ecstasy. I asked my sitter if I moved around, or grunted and groaned. And he said I didn't do anything. "your eyes were fluttering like crazy tho" All I could think was nothing mattered anymore. Nothing. (In the best way possible tho) . My ego goals of money, sex, life, image. Nothing mattered. All were/are irrelevant. For a bit I felt like I was on mushrooms visually. But then the "normal" state came back within 10 minutes or so. Apparently the whole experience lasted only three minutes, which blew my mind. It's like being back in this body feels so alien. Like, this reality is the dream and that is the true self (without being a self at all) . Just a completely mind blowing experience. I also remember thinking that everyone needs to try that, at least once, at any cost. It will completely change your life. I can't imagine what 20mgs would do if that was just 10mgs. I'll probably try the 12mgs and 15mgs that I prepared just to see. cause don't know if I'm more tolerant to it now or not. Also, gonna try it a few more times before my parents get back, and if I have the same experience in terms of my body not moving or grunting or anything, then I know I can safely do it on my own. I didn't eat anything for 4 hours before had. Didn't eat any processed foods, just a lot of macadamia nuts , some mushrooms and some celery. Didn't drink any water for 2 hours prior too. But yeah. Just wow. I picked up "Entheogenic Liberation" by Martin Ball on audible and will be going through it this weekend, to help me integrate. Might even do mushrooms today. Just because. As I said before, nothing matters anymore ! <3

Wow. Just wow.

Interesting. I've been interested in lucid dreams literally my whole life, since I was 16. All the books that I've read said that in order to remember your dreams, you must wake up from them. So they suggested if you had to get up at say 9am , to set a alarm for 6, then set it for a hour later, then a hour later, then a hour later. Basically because the REM period gets longer the longer that you sleep. So I started doing this, the only problem is now I can't turn that part of me off. I almost always wake up 4 hours after I sleep, then a hour later, then a hour later then a hour later and so on. Only had maybe 3 or 4 lucid dreams to show for it. But many MANY night's of 2, 3 even 4 dream recollections. This sounds like a awesome method, and I'll certainly be giving it a go. But again, have no idea how to have a straight 8 hour sleep anymore. Would be cool if anyone had any experience with that.

@Serotoninluv thank you and will do @Leo Gura Well, I know nothing can prepare you fully but I wanted to take this seriously. I am super excited but am also a bit nervous (which I know is just my ego) Hopefully the sandwich method works. Appreciate the encouragement and all the work you've done by the way @peanutspathtotruth - that I will !

Well, took me over 12 hours but I just read this entire thread. I got my hands on some 5 MEO DMT freebase up here in Canada where its legal. First issue (my ego playing games) was after I ordered , I went back to Leos first 5 MEO video and some Martin Ball stuff and both say not to do this with a heart condition. I remember my parents told me when I was young that I had a heard murmor. (I've seen no talks about heart issues on this entire thread so figured I'd bring it up) So after some research I found out that heart murmors could be temporary. Just to be safe, and sure, I made a appointment to see my doctor to find out if I had one. Went today in fact. Anyways, I am very happy to announce that he didn't detect one at all, so I feel comfortable moving forward with this whole things. From what I've read (beyond this forum as well) its very easy to burn in a freebase pipe. Bought some mullein leafs today. And a buddy came over yesterday and we weighed out a bunch. I have 3 @ 10mgs, 3 @ 12 mgs, 3 @ 15 mgs, 3 @ 17mgs and 3 @ 20mgs . Still have over half of the baggie left too. Haven't seen to much here about smoking it in a regular (weed) pipe. But have seen a good method is to "sandwich it" if your doing the normal (weed) pipe method. So I think I'll do that. Bought some screens today too. Have a sitter coming over tmr and will be giving it my first try at 10mgs. Depending on the results, I may immediately move to 12mgs and then 15mgs tomorrow as well, being Martin Ball does three sessions in one sitting. Also the that my parents come back in less than two weeks (so I'll only have the house to myself for that time, and a sitter for tmr and next friday) I also quit smoking cigs recently, about two months in, and bought a ejuice vape mod. Saw this cool (dry herb) tank for the mod that is for dry herb, https://www.migvapor.com/vaporizers/dry-herb-wax-atomizers/black-sub-herb-the-dry-herb-and-dabs-tank so I might pick that up and give it a go if the sandwhich method doesn't work out too well. I plan on sharing my results here in the next few days/weeks. Been meditating one hour everyday for over a month now, and pretty much always go over a hour. The last three days have been over 1 hour 20mins. (Also, about 6 days ago did 1 hour 57mins) So I am happy to have at least SOMEWHAT of a meditation base for this. I also have experience with ego death from Salvia (maybe not 100% ego death, but pretty dang close) and have done mushrooms , LSD , MDMA and a few other psychedelics as well. Found out about 5 MEO on Joe Rogans podcast and looked it up on youtube and was happy to see Leo pop up as the first result (I've been following the channel for years) Needless to say, ever since hearing about it, it has been calling to me. Didn't have a meditation practice when I first found out about it tho, so glad I have one now. Anyways, I am really really excited to finally posses it and see how my personal tolerance is. Any feedback would be great, and again I'll be updating my trips here in the future