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Super cool, why are people saying its poisonous?

I just had a great discussion about this very thing in another thread The conversation quickly moves away from spiral dynamics and into relationship with people with childhood trauma. It might have many of the answers your looking for. --- In short she had major childhood trauma that she brought into the relationships she had with you, not a single thing that happened in this relationshps was your fault besides that you are needy, the real issue with this is you let her walk all over you and believe the paranoid false accusations she invented about you. You did nothing wrong and did not deserve this, it happened because she has major unresolved trauma. The topic i sent covers all this in more detail so i wont re-explain it all here. The only issue you have is your a strong people pleaser and the neediness of not being abandoned made it so you refused to accept the relationships was unhealthy and the right decision was to go your separate ways. It was healthy you guys split up, she is going to be a nightmare to deal with for all her future relationships, it was not your fault and youll come to emotionally understand this in your next relationship that will be with someone whos psychologically more stable. Being attracted to women who fall madly in love with you is a common trap, they love bomb you and addict you to them until they pull it all away with out warning leaving you desperate and heart broken. Very common for people with BPD to feel this way all the time about everyone. It has nothing to do with you. They are deeply insecure. They have selective negative memory and warp all of reality to fit there bad memory, its explained in the other topic.

There is information that is worth withholding at the beginning of the relationship, once things get started and trust/comfort built then you can unload some heaver stuff. Women bound about the image they create about you, you don't want to disclose that you broke and living with your mother. Do that after they bound not before.

@mr_engineer Great idea, maybe another complimentary idea is a dating app with a similar agenda, people who sign up are looking for a partner they can grow with and the service provides high quality insights every step of the relationship cycle so they can navigate the challenges and enhance there experience.

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around 3:00 "lowering your ldl cholesterol these researchers found that there was no consistent relationship between lowering ldl c with a statin and your risk of death, heart attack or stroke" Long term risks of statins use "Lower testosterone levels, higher glucose, lower CoQ10, muscle pain and worse" Alternative opinion on statins from a heart surgeon

@theleelajoker Fantastic, let the new ideas settle for a while

@undeather Studies provide data that is interpreted by the paradigm they view health. Its a interpretation problem and a misunderstanding of what that data is pointing to. Improved blood tests is not a good indication of improved health. Statins will improve one metric in the system while unbalancing another that is not being tracked. The problem with all data focused approach's is what a study says at face value is not the issues its the epistemology behind the observer (you). There are conflicting interpretations of all these studies, the more conscious the observer the more counter-intuitive and ambiguous these studies start to become, they are not pointing to what you think they are pointing to. Medication for prevention paradigm is a bad strategy. It doesn't work in practice or at scale. They still have heart attacks on or of statins, they will still have heart attack with perfect blood tests. Long term effects of medication is poorly tracked. Its not that your worldview is based on data, its data is used to support your worldview. its backwards. At some point from life experience and preferences led you to think about health in a specific way then data was there to provide support for it, that mixed with believing what these studies suggest with out realizing the deceptive nature of truth. Every carnivore diet doctor will interpret studies to show cholesterol is healthy and lowing it with statins doesn't work. People believe what ever they want to believe with this data. A better approach is to try to learn from every camp and see what results each one is getting. A doctors position prevents them from doing any real inquiry into truth, there job is a practical matter and have to work with what they have and what they where thought up to that point. With thousands of diseases to worry about its impossible to figure out what part of there education is true or not. There are only a handful of doctors that are deeply question what they know and carefully figuring out what works and what doesn't, but because of the Eco chamber and demonization of any doctor with a new perspective all progress ignored. I'm sure there are plenty of treatment methods you disagree with like how mainstream doctors handles crohn's diseases or any digestive issue is basically shrouded in ignorance. So why are statins so firmly true in your eyes and not these other treatment methods coming out of the mainstream? A interpretation of studies? Experience? A more holistic perspective? Data doesn't show anything, your creating the truth.

This is a deep fake?

Yes but why did they take it to the extreme?

Alright so they have a feeling that arises making them scared. They know there is no reason for the fear but they are scared anyways. So its maybe not a framing problem.

I disagree now that you disagree. It is very difficult to understand why someone would have a fear of being poisoned. It think its worth discussing.

If does patients where left alone with not treatment what would happen? There is no need for financial incentive, your already prescribing them once a day based on your belief system. The business component effects culture that effects the paradigm doctors view health. Take them while your healthy. How can they possibly not be over prescribed, its very clear that your not intimate with any of these patients over the long term and likely see them occasionally, you asses there state as "still alive" and go on with your life. How could they be given a chance to do that when the moment they come into contact with you they are put on drugs. Yes, your not following up on any of them, you dont understand the effects any of these drugs had on the quality of there life or mental state. If they die or have complications you don't believe it has anything to do with your practice, in fact you believe you helped them live longer. There is no indication that putting them on statins changed anything. They lived there entire lives with out statins up to the point they met you, now they suddenly need intervention? Why would that intervention be better then nothing at all? My father was put on statins and blood pressure medication at 15, his brother rejected the doctor advice, they both had very high blood pleasure. At 40 my father had a stroke, his brother didnt. At 60 my father is on 30 different medications, his brother is on 1 anti-rejection. They both have polycystic kidney disease and had there kidneys removed and donor transplant. From this experiment I came to the conclusion that statins or blood pressure medications cause hardening of the arteries (father) for long term use. I also came to the conclusion that doing nothing can be better or wiser then intervention. How do you know statins don't raise cortisol? Contributing to mood issues (anger)? Are a stressor and agitant on the system. The statin needs to be tested on healthy people and metric not related to cholesterol need to be tracked.

I agree, so why are they scared of ghosts? They need to work on the trauma not the Schizophrenia?

@undeather We agree that statins are over prescribed. The position your making is that your use of them is correct and your distancing your self from the mainstream. That's reasonable, I'm not doubting your approach is a good one. but your approach is 0.1% or less of practitioners. The environment is a business that over prescribed every drug and statins not existing would improve the quality of life of the majority. Weather statins are of any actually value or not is a different discussion. Take them yourself and ill respect what you have to say. Thousands? What do you think your accuracy rate is on that? The thing is you don't even think it matters if they need it or not because you think there are no side effects, its harmless. The foolishness of the entire industry is revealed right there. How do you know you helped any of does people with statins? How exactly do you know?

I'm not seeing why, lets pick a random invention whos introduction into our society did more harm then good. Some people genuinely benefit form that invention but at the same time it hurt the majority. We can say that Its better if it was never introduced to begin with. What we are disagreeing on is how bad the health care industry is screwing up. From your perspective these drugs are more beneficial then harmful. I think if we remove the majority of these drugs from the system overall health will improve. 1 out of 10 prescription of statins distributed everyday was the right decision. The entire situation is barbarique. While your world view is that 7/10 times it was the correct choice or something along does lines.

@undeather There's another dimension, yes if your old and its absolutely nessisariy statins have purpose but because of the availability of statins they are 99.9% of the time used when not nessisariy. Making statins a drug that is better off not existing and we can extend this to the majority of drugs that exist, the benefits of there existence is outweigh by there drawbacks. We are better off if guns where never invented and nukes, just like we would be better off if the majority of drugs where never invented. More options is not always better. From the big picture perspective anti-biotics and pain killers are the very few drugs whos benefits outweigh drawbacks. Its crewl but the majority of people that genuinely need these other drugs should just not have access to them, just like the people who genuinely need a gun should not have access to them because the whole outweighs that one circumstance.

I don't think he ment it like that.

Lmaoo, its possible yes, could be undereating and high cortisol. it doesn't fully explain why 1 egg is enough to get the erection back and stamina even If im still undereating.

They take some pride in living outside the norm.

Weed Edible?

I loss my erections on veganism's and determined the cause was a issue with fat absorption so I need to eat foods high in cholesterol like eggs to get it up.