Emotionalmosquito

This isn’t being very fair. Is it acceptable to say it’s only half my fault? It takes two to tango after all. My half being I don’t put in enough practice. Their half being they have very little patience for sub optimal social skills. The problem is, you have to already be at a minimum threshold of skill in order to be accepted into any circle or venue unless they’re exceptionally cool. (assuming you aren’t highly attractive) Which sucks greatly because these are crucial training grounds to level up. It’s a perfect catch22. I would love to stop being a loser and take control of the situation. But like I have to carry pepper spray due to the perfectly valid fear of accidentally saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and getting beat up by chad. Night life spaces are supposed to be environments where you can let loose and open up to your true self after a long week on autopilot, to freely and playfully say anything that comes to mind with little inhibition. And it seems there are many people doing that. Then there are those of us who still have to tiptoe on eggshells lest we make some girl the slightest bit uneasy. It sends the message “be yourself but only if it’s a self we happen to like” It honestly feels like an even more sick and twisted version of The Truman Show at this point. If this isn’t what oppression feels like idk what is.

https://youtu.be/FBRSR_LGlOE As it’s probably obvious by now the dating market is beyond screwed (especially if you’re not inner city) and human connection/sex/birth rates are at an all time low because of it. I don’t know about y’all but I’m beyond tired of having to constantly walk on eggshells and enter every interaction very cautiously while analyzing every single thought I have before speaking as not to offend. Tired of being misled about peoples’ true intentions and feelings resulting in faulty calibration settings on my end unequivocally making me look like the “weirdo.” Tired of having to think, act, dress and speak similarly to everyone else and memorize an encyclopedia sized list of social norms so I don’t make anybody “uncomfortable.” For most of us guys it seems at least half of our mental bandwidth is reserved for simply trying to not look creepy. Cost benefit analysis would suggest that putting yourself out there to be for years threatened, bullied and mocked for making social errors plus the possibility of false sexual harassment allegations etc. is not worth whatever great sex you might end up winning. The perfect solution to this massive cultural dilemma has to be advanced cyber sex. There are pressure and friction sensitive flesh lights and dildos that can be connected to each other through the web so each party can feel the simulated movements of one another in real time. You’ll be able to experience intimacy with anyone in any setting and as much as you want. The graphics in that documentary look very REALISTIC and it also says the tech is very close to understanding taste and smell. Watch and see. The more I think about this the more excited I become to finally get to fulfill my basic need and without any of the risks or drawbacks of the real thing. What do you guys think, would you try it?

I recently attended a town gathering where people hang out, eat, listen to music and shop. I saw dozens of couples and hardly a single one where the guy is shorter. The only such couples I see are 9/10 times in their forties or fifties. It’s no different no matter where I look. https://youtu.be/zFYNUq9TeW0 I don’t think looks are everything, but I do think they’re about 90% of it. If you have the impeccable social skills of an absolute god, it’s possible for that to carry you to victory in some cases. As long as you don’t mess up. Yet chad barely has to try at all, as seen in the above video. Read the top two comments on that clip. Maybe I live in an extremely closed minded area but it’s very rare I ever get a good reaction from a girl. This is compounded by the fact that they will often disguise their true feelings to give the wrong idea, to either toy with me or as a safety mechanism. I usually try to open by being myself as much as possible which means creating a playful and carefree atmosphere yet this always goes poorly. You would think if so many different girls all had different “types” I would have had at least some luck by now, but nope. I have tried different techniques and they do elicit different responses but the end result is unchanged. If I was the only one going through this or one of the small minority then yeah it would be my fault, but millions of us have this same trouble. which is why I believe teledildonics to be a saving grace

Damn near perfectly stated. All I would say differently is it only helps reduce the risk of legal problems when you get a clear yes from her. It doesn’t eliminate the risk. She can still tell the cops anything she wants and you’re in deep shit if you can’t prove your innocence. So I would say get audio or video recording of her consenting and have her sign a waiver before each session. It may sound like a vibe killer but it’s peoples’ live we’re talking about here. And I agree it would be best to ask and get a verbal yes from her before advancing, but I remember Leo telling me you can’t just straight up ask a girl for sex because putting it in words is a turn off due to the fact most girls respond best to pure vibe and subtle hint. Which is ridiculously frustrating since that means you have to figure it out based on how she’s moving her body instead of clear yes or no’s

Take a tolerance break

Pretty much indifferent except less horny for about an hour or two Although I do remember this one single instance where it energized me. Couldn’t have been much older than ten at the time. I was at a neighborhood friend’s house and I fapped under their downstairs piano while no one was in that area. Really wish I could get that effect every time but no two faps are identical.

Can you clarify this a bit more? It sounds like you’re saying women are now picking only from the very best and seeing them as novelties instead of a basic resource. If that’s true imagine how many people will get left behind. Male virginity rates are already sky high. No it doesn’t. Maybe they won’t do so right in front of you but they sure will kick up a fuss about all your mistakes amongst each other behind your back. This causes problems to say the least. Once someone doesn’t like you, their mind is made up. So there is no room for error. This is not good for a beginner who needs lots of practice. Right, but in this area I don’t think it’s that big a deal. I think teledildonics will be to sex what video games were to say sports or other real world hobbies. First it will be heavily scrutinized, then it will be accepted. Sex is at the very foundation of Maslow’s pyramid. There are so many starving dudes out there and the problem is so extreme I say why not have the perfect substitute to stay satisfied until you get the real thing. It’s even better than that because you can walk around virtual worlds of any design you can imagine and literally just ask people to have sex with you (something you absolutely cannot get away with in the real world even though there’s no good reason why) and there’s a good chance they’ll say yes. It will be infinitely easier to express yourself authentically as there will be no consequences for doing so unlike real life. Imagine two ugly social rejects coming together in vr with perfect avatars to show each other what they never could and probably never would have gotten to experience. Then why have sex at all? Why even have this entire sub forum? Isn’t that all romance is? just maximum pleasure without having to take drugs? The only thing that makes porn destructive is too much dopamine and not enough healing oxytocin to balance it out. I can see this tech getting good enough to trigger the body to release it. Nazi’s fallacy. Just because majority consensus is one way doesn’t mean they’re right. That makes me think of some quotes: “Great spirits will always be opposed by mediocre minds.” And, ”It is no measure of health to be well adjusted... well you get the idea. But to be fair, if you’re going around being a total inconsiderate douchebag then yeah, the problem is you. But most of us arent even close to that and we still come up invariably dry. Apparently what you have to do to get laid is start touching various parts of her body before pulling. The problem is how astronomically high the stakes are here. If she likes it (meaning you read her signals perfectly and touched accordingly, you get to fuck. If she doesn’t, that shit can literally have you fighting a sexual assault charge, happens all the time. Whereas a girl can touch a guy she likes all she wants and generally won’t risk getting in any trouble for it.

Well that’s just wonderful

Say no more. Good looks are what get you accepted into the audition. Personality is what gets you the part. Being the friendship or relationship in this analogy. The better looking you are the easier it is to get the audition and the more opportunities you get. A below average looking person is going to have a hard time improving their social skills because no one will want to give them a chance or forgive them if they make an oopsie.

What about non-ejaculatory faps? Are those aloud?

LDAR Just kidding. Getting arrested by itself isn’t that bad. What’s bad is if they find something to charge you with. So I’ll still keep trying when opportunities arise only I’ll have to walk on eggshells so they don’t have anything that can be pressed as sexual harassment. I.e. not saying any of the outlandish stuff Leo or the rsd guys get away with. As much as I wish this could be an enjoyable process, it just ain’t realistic.

Let’s communicate our level of attraction among other things through non verbal “cues” then wonder why when the other person doesn’t know what’s up. When we could save ourselves ten times the hassle by simply using ours words like adults. Straight from the species that prides itself on being the most intelligent.

He wasn’t allowed to show romantic interest immediately because he was at work. That’s just asking to get fired. None of her actions clearly indicated interest beyond friendship either. He would have had to take it on blind assumption. The risk op would have to take to show interest is the girl getting turned off and thinking “ughh! Another guy that just wants in my pants.” Todd V says to never sexualize a hot girl because they already get so much of that already it’s annoying to them. Both parties must clearly express to one another that there is attraction. Otherwise it’s a game of mind reading and awkward moments due to not reading vague signals accurately when you could have just plainly said what you meant with words. You mean like at work?

May be true but that doesn’t stop people from getting arrested for it anyway. Such as this feller for example. His yt username was 1st person approacher and he was arrested then released shortly after on lack of charges about a year and a half ago. All it takes is a few women to feel uncomfortable and complain about it to cause you trouble. Social awkwardness/anxiety/shyness is commonly perceived as genuine creepiness when doing pickup.

I think he makes some valid points especially on marriage and gynocentrism. Though in defense of the ten people saying he’s bad, I watched a convincing video against him by Brittany Venti. Hats off to that, sir.

I need to know if I should make this investment soon because of the half off Black Friday sale. I’m considering getting the standard version. It’s the cheapest yet it’s still 300 bucks at half price. It looks pretty legit on the website but I can’t afford to burn that money if I’m not gonna use the product or know how to. Anyone who has purchased this program please tell me what you think of it.

If only this was true

Pure presence is something most people will never taste until after they’re dead. The ego is sneaky enough to send you impulses making you believe they’re pure and good. You take someone inexperienced with spirituality and tell them to be themselves, not only will they have no reference point for anything other than their current state of being, but also be very likely to act on impure animalistic impulses that they believed was acting spontaneously. This can be disastrous. For example, you might feel the sudden urge to burst out erratically dancing in a situation where it’s highly inappropriate to do so. Like maybe you’re in church and they say a verse that resonates with you so well it makes you want to bust a move.

In that case it’s literally impossible to be anything other than yourself for a single moment ever. So what’s the point in saying it?

Wow. First off, good job and best of luck mate. With any luck I’ll be in the same position soon. Few questions: What tone of voice did you use to ask her and what mood were you in? As much as you can recall, how much emphasis did you use on each word and what was your cadence like? I ask because vocal tonality is something I imagine is a massive part of whether or not a girl says yes. In that case what better chance to recruit a new member. All of the evidence would be on his side as to why it is in fact quite the opposite of stupid. Anyone who thinks that probably doesn’t know what spirituality even is and is referring to pseudo spiritualists who use it as a status symbol or escape strategy. Which one? There are so many different aspects to one’s character that this command could mean anything. If you’re being your wild adventurous warrior self, you aren’t being your calm cool laidback self. If you’re being your playful party animal self, you can’t be your abstract thinking philosophical self and so on. You only have limited tokens to invest in your stats so you can’t be everything. And does “be yourself” work for autistic people? This is part of why I think this be yourself thing is so overhyped and rather frustrating.

I don’t think much needs to be said as to why this is so sickeningly cruel. The guy in the second video had a channel where he went cycling around his town filming his sets so he could watch them later and get feedback. He ended up getting arrested and jailed literally for no other reason than being awkward with women. His game wasn’t even terribly bad. He was very direct and clear with his intent, he committed to each approach and was good at making observations. There are several other videos of him you can watch running his game on that channel. The guy in the first video was very polite and left her alone as soon as he got the message. Yet he has been full blown demonized online and even on national tv. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50137960 [He called one of them "pretty", tried to get her phone number and made her feel "uncomfortable" but she walked away.] Apparently calling women pretty and asking for their number is sexual harassment now. If this is how the public is going to react to guys trying to improve themselves they shouldn’t be surprised when the percentage of incels jumps from 30 to 50 in ten years time. If things continue the way they are, the schism between the sexes will reach such a critical mass it may very well be beyond repair. Just look at Japan. When did it become such a crime for men to follow their most natural instinct and what is to make of this train wreck? How are we supposed to feel safe in practicing game if all it takes is one wrong woman to make a fuss (then others will join in) resulting in a modern day tar and feathering?

Yes I should focus on making them feel safe, no doubt there. But I don’t see how that will automatically solve the problem of my safety. There are so many real creeps, or at least that’s what they’ve been told, that their default reaction is to assume shady intent from the beginning. It’s very difficult to be given a fair chance from this position. I did. Granted this case was by far the worst of the three. I included that article because in addition to the actual crimes he committed they sprinkled in stuff that shouldn’t be any big deal so as to paint as ugly of a picture as possible. Like “He called one of them "pretty", tried to get her phone number and made her feel "uncomfortable" but she walked away.” for example. He also grabbed her head and tried to kiss her. He wouldn’t have done that had he known how badly it would be received which would indicate it was more of an issue of poor calibration than malicious intent. PUA infields always record all their sets and the girls leave before they get a chance to jump in and tell them they were filmed and ask for permission to upload but that doesn’t get PUAs in trouble. I’m not sure what the big deal is with following girls around on your bike for a block before you open. It’s unlikely for a newb to have the courage to immediately approach when they spot the girl they like. If you need a moment to psych yourself up and don’t want to lose her what else can you do? @something_else I didn’t notice him being forceful about anything. He always hung up the phone when he got the message and didn’t make anyone feel trapped. Worst the guy did was lie about recording them and act with sub-optimal social skills. Not illegal. Quite the accusation there, though it may be partially true. Yes I can improve instead of doomer posting but the source of the doom makes it all the more challenging to do so. We are clearly at a disadvantage here if people are eager to jump at our throats like this for simple rookie mistakes. @Bando nice analysis though I don’t agree with all of it. You’ve got some good tips in here I’ll try to keep in mind. More like because society tends to be extremely unforgiving to those of us who don’t already know them.

Phenibut+caffeine+CBD will set you just right as long as you have a handle on the addiction potential of the pheni. Phenibut plus microdose is something I don’t think I’ve tried. Sounds like it would be very powerful. An under appreciated noot is mucuna pruriens. It converts to dopamine so that’s usually pretty helpful. I’ve had good results with it.

@mmKay I would love it if weed did that to me, unfortunately it does the exact opposite. Very low thc high cbd strains are great though. The closest thing that consistently does that for me is phenibut. Too bad you can’t use it very often. It makes me feel absolutely perfect in every single way.

I’m more of a knee kinda guy personally. Tempting but I’m not looking for a borderline heart attack horror trip lol. @Lyubov Play cops and robbers. Or if you want a more complex scenario you can play head of fbi vs leader of organized crime syndicate and take turns interrogating each other. You could also play Adam and Eve out in the woods once spring and summer rolls back around. If you want to get super freaky you can try ice water sex. Cut a hole in a frozen pond or river or just put tons of ice in the bath tub. See what you’re both made of. Use your imagination. Lol. She would either love the proposal or think it’s weird af!