VeganAwake

Notice how what was said, being accurate or not, does not make any real difference in apparent existence. It's only the identification with a thought that creates an illusory experience of someone there that feels offended and what was said was rude and unfounded. Awakening isn't about learning or finding something that is absolutely true to unlock the gateless gate of liberation. The word truth suggest that there's something that's false. There is nothing that's actually false, there is only misunderstandings. So the word truth then would be a word pointing to everything without misunderstanding. Its the loss of the individual that believed there was something that could be found. In that sense it could be called unknowing. See 'you' think there is someone here that believes it knows something or has attained something called Enlightenment... but enlightenment is the complete dissolving of the illusory Seeker that thought something was missing from everything(needed to be found and 'I'm' just the one to find it) There is no concern here because when the illusion of self is completely seen through there's no one left that could lose something. Anyways nice chatting with you, take it easy I was just messing with you guys to see what kind of reaction I could get out of you. I like to dabble in duality a bit sometimes to ruffle some feathers(divine game of Lila). Sorry for all the strong conditioned thoughts and emotions that may or may not have risen. nothing but unconditional love for everyone ❤

Nahm, 'I' know there isn't a 'you', 'you' don't have to keep repeating that. Again they are words used as expressions for communication purposes... (when I said you, I was referring to identification with a thought or thoughts that believe it knows. Yes there's nothing for the sense of 'me' to get because it never was. Yes 'you' can't really take an ego/sense of self head on because it's mere identification with conditioned thoughts, sensations, belief's, concepts, labels, and contracted energy in the body (this again was an expression for communication purposes).... and the recognition that they don't equal a "ME" is the awakening. No I actually meant rain as in the ego rains down on others with its toxic moisture....joking ❤....yes I meant reign thanks...its my talk text use that makes me sound like a robot and misspell.

Love that ❤ ?

"The biggest obstacle to Discovery is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge". Its because they get there head filled with concept and pursue from a full glass starting point. You know this, don't u? ❤

Your not going anywhere. But not because of the belief that you are eternal or God/whatever, it's because 'you' doesn't exist....'you' is illusion!!

"I' will have to sort it all out before moving on" is just another conditioned belief. 'I' have many things to reflect about = buying into a conditioned thought. STOP believing just STOP!!! and LOOK ❤

@Vittorio ❤ this sounds very familiar...like its right under your nose but for some reason unable to grasp...thoughts arise like "was something missed or overlooked" No thing was missed. Everything up to this point has been merely stepping stones that can be honoured, sincerely appreciated, and Now Let Go Of!! Now turn that seeking energy 180 degrees within and LOOK....LOOK for it with an empty but grounded and open mind....as if nothing else mattered!! Who or what has been desperately seeking Enlightenment? Try not to use intellect!! Just pure innocent Looking!!

Love that ❤...

Because the looking becomes the direct experience/recognition that there is no one actually home. ❤

My experience on this is that there is still a conditioned body/mind that can get temporary triggered offended irritated or whatever, but it just doesn't really feel personal any longer and it doesn't last at all... the stickiness of the 'I' is no longer there to identity or create a big dramatic story. Liberation then could be described as when even the small trigger moments just no longer occur. The peace and clarity are fully embodied so to speak. Every body is conditioned a little different though so no experience is exactly the same of course.... for example a body/mind that has suffered great traumas abuse neglect and things like that may take to it differently. ❤

You are assuming there is someone here that knows something. See it's actually the other way around. There is an illusory experience there that believes if it gains enough wisdom or knowledge on the subject matter it will understand everything at some future point. Yes and of course there will always be more for the mind to conceptualize about within infinity. If 'you' are happy with infinitely seeking so be it, that's what's happening. Just recognize this seeking energy is endlessly neady. Its the carrot being dangled in front of the Donkey effect. The one seeking here died and was recognized by no-one having never existed. So in that sense liberation is the death of the illusory individual that thought there was something separate to find within Infinity. ❤

There isn't a 'you'...period!! Look and see if you can find it... not with the conditioned mind that believes it already knows the answer, that is using intellect. Actually look and see its unreality! ❤

Like ? ❤ It's overlooked by being everything!! So in that sense even being overlooked is still IT. ?

Like ? ❤

The thing is... this can't just be intellectually understood ...it has to be seen on a first-hand basis. It needs to be looked at and seen clearly that the separate sense the self(seeker) is an illusion. I’d like to ask you to explore this SENSE of self very-very thoroughly. Not by thinking about it, but by FEELING it. Keep the focus of attention on the sense of self and inquire: Does the sense of self have a location? Does the sense of self have a shape or a size? Does the sense of self say or communicate anything? If the answer is yes, how does the sense do this exactly? Does the sense of self have any characteristics or attributes? What is the sense of self ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought Arising? If not, where is any Direct or Actual Experience of some sense of self?

Like ? ❤

Are 'you' constantly seeking for something? Does it feel like something is lacking or missing in 'your' life? Well 'you' have come to the right place!!! Because for only $0 a month 'I' can explain how since birth and for no apparent reason whatsoever, 'you' have been conditioned to believe 'you' are a 'separate' individual with free will and choice. Every thought emotion and action 'you' take is because 'you' decided to. Never mind of course if 'you' were born and indoctrinated into a very heavily conditioned culture where beliefs are force-fed and monitored for compliance as seen fit. Often this illusory experience of being separate brings about a search to find wholeness... but this search becomes endless because what you're looking for is already the case. What you're looking for hides Itself by already being everything. When the apparent 'me' is looked at closely and without distraction, what is actually there? Is there a real entity within the body with free will and choice? Don't conceptualize about it, LOOK and see!! When this entire hilarious dramatic play is looked at from the biggest picture possible it's recognized that everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be because it's WHAT IS!! "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players" -- William Shakespeare It's absolutely Everything...whole complete and perfect THIS!!!!!!

@Leo Nordin yes it seems to be a completely illogical communication. Love your sincere response ❤

It's the clear and undeniable seeing that the sense of 'I' that believes it will one day become enlightened, is an illusion. The illusory seeker believes that with enough focus, diligent practices and accumulated knowledge, it will one day arrive at something called Liberation.( In a few decades of course lol, see it doesn't want to be unidentified with) But with that approach it's an unachievable goal, because the very thing seeking... ISN'T REAL. So everything 'I' does to become Awakened actually prolong's it. (Its the hamster wheel effect... the more you identify AS IT, the longer the dream story is perpetuated) Turn that seeking energy around 180 degrees and LOOK and see Who or What wants to become Enlightened? Is it a real entity? Where is it located? What does it consist of? Note: This information is pertaining to Enlightenment. Its not saying 'you' should or shouldn't do anything in particular including any kind of spiritualpractices/meditation/rituals/chants...etc....It's saying there isn't a 'YOU' that has a choice. A prison cell can be updated and decorated infinitely. ❤

@Javfly33 btw love your honest straightforward and basic questioning. They are Stepping Stones to realizing you are already home ❤ ❤ ❤

There is a conditioned body that will turn its head if it's name is called, jump out of the way of a moving truck, prefer coffee over tea and understand basic math. The 'I' that claims to be the doer is the illusion of self or Maya. ❤ So the illusory 'knower' is the experience of being the 'ONE' that answered 1+ 1 = 2

The experience of a finite individual within the body or duality is 100% unreal....meaning it never was...Its an illusion!! The word creation implies something real was created, the creation of 'yourself' never actually happened....its an illusory experience. ❤

That's what's being experienced their bud, it's whole complete and perfect. ❤