VeganAwake

Ego feeds like a hungry wolf on beliefs of being everything with absolute power, it simply can't fathom its own unreality. When it comes to ego, it's all about the identification, & bigger will always feel better! Hence the notion of "inflated ego" Ego's come to this forum and hear about something called enlightenment. Of course this sounds incredible for the ego. So it does a fake stripping down old self ritual and immediately starts building up its new profound spiritual ego/higher self identification. It will identify with any notion that it believes will make it stronger. At first it believes it's just acquiring prolific spiritual knowledge.....but it's actually slowly morphing into that as identity. Then in a lame attempt to keep itself inflated, this spiritual super ego runs around the forum telling others about what they have learned.........and knowing all the while, if they go outside the forum with this message, they will be extradited immediately for insanity! The end! 😁 ❤️ 💙 💜

Enlightenment is recognizing the very character that believes ⏫️, isn't even real! That's what's referred to as spiritual super ego! But these beliefs will only collapse upon clearly seeing that the believer is an illusion of self! ❤️

Hehe cup is empty while you describe your spiritually conditioned interpretation of it.....classic!!😜 ❤️ 💙 💜

There's only what is, so how could there be any opposite? You've digested misinformation about what enlightenment is or isn't. Your cup runneth over. And you can never learn what you think you already know! Gotta empty that cup bud!! ❤️

It's all good brother. I'm not trying to get anywhere! Just commenting on the topic. Not trying to convince anyone of anything ❤️

There isn't a you in which could understand what itself is. That's literally the illusion of self again.... As for absence of limitations.....that body can't go without water, fly or jump over mountains....sounds limited to me. Your not reality bud, trust. But nothing wrong with believing that.....it's spiritual ego delusions is all. ❤️

Body survival is natural instinct. Ego doesn't create physical reality....it just places meaning, purpose and value overtop of a meaningless reality(matrix). For ego, everything has to mean something. But reality doesn't have meaning. Nothing matters or needs to be a certain way, including ego being under control. Nothing creates the universe or physical reality.....that's completely unknowable. Anyone that proclaims they know or understand how physical reality exists is full of BS. Self and ego are the exact same illusion. There isn't a self and then also ego....ego = self....both unreal! ❤️

The body learned to write. It will also turn its head if it's name is called, prefer coffee over tea, and jump out the way of a moving truck. It's empty of a me though. Me is a thought. ❤️

It's also been described as: A disentangling from the socially conditioned matrix of mind known as "ME" Nobody becomes untangled and liberated though. Its recognized there never was anyone bound in the first place! No one to be bound & No one to be enlightened. Which makes so-called enlightenment technically unreal along with everything else. It reveals that apparent reality lacks any real substance or meaning. ❤️

Its only the conditioned mind/ego, which believes there is something to be achieved or understood. It's convinced that liberation is in the future. It never stops trying to attain it. It only stops when it believes that stopping, will increase its chances of getting it (which isn't actually stopping). The search is completely futile and ridiculous. Liberation is not a physical object or a better state of mind to reach. It's not an understanding or attainment for an individual. It's 100% out of reach for the seeker because it's the revelation that the seeker and the sought do not exist in reality. Nothing is attained except the revelation that the very one seeking, is an illusion of self. ❤️

That is exactly the illusion being discussed! Illusions don't want to go bye 😫

That's awesome but it doesn't mean anything brother! ❤️ Wisdom, Love, Knowing, Between. Those are just conditioned concepts stemming from the unfounded beliefs that; wisdom is knowledge, love is everything...etc These are all just ego traps brother.....look and see!!....look closely! Those so-called spiritual masters were just beacons of spiritual ego! ❤️

There isn't a real "yourself" The illusion of yourself is that which hides what is already perfection. Yourself is the apparent issue because it attempts to control its so-called life through its conditioned biases......good vs bad or positive vs negative. The very attempt to enjoy every moment, is itself the prison! ❤️

This body was taught and memorized how to write. There was no "me" that chose to do that, it just happened. The entity that proclaims "my body learned to write," is the self illusion. That body over there can certainly say there is no sun/gravity and that it is everything. But that is the self illusion that's being pointed out as completely unreal. There is no "you" to be everything. It just seems like there is. That's the big cosmic joke. ❤️

That experience takes place through the conditioned illusion of self. 😳 So is there even real experience? 🤔 ❤️

As for the so-called eternal consciousness, that experience is just the bodily sensations(sight, sound, smell, taste) coupled with a spiritually conditioned imagination. When that body dies, so will the concepts of so-called eternal consciousness held there. There is nothing eternal or permanent. No need to call nothingness eternal because it already never existed.....it's not eternal or temporary....it simply never was! ❤️

You can call reality whatever you want, it doesn't change anything. The body still can't walk through a brick wall or defy the laws of gravity by calling everything an illusion/you. There isn't a me or a you in which could even identify as body/mind......that's the illusion we're discussing 🤔 The you that thinks there is a path with a beginning and end, is the illusion of self....the knower there, is the illusion brother! ❤️

It's not advisable

Gotcha, Yep, I've heard that name. 🫶 It's a desperate attempt by an illusion, to get what it believes is missing. But nothing is missing, Its only an illusions misunderstanding! ❤️

The acceptance of the fear "is in a sense" the letting go! Tracing the fear back to its roots and being understanding of it, certainly seems to be a winner winner chicken dinner 😅 ❤️

How could "what is" be explained? It's completely unfathomable. It's everything and simultaneously nothing. And there's nothing else to compare it with, because it's already everything and nothing. The very entity that claims "I am the human self" or "I am that", is the same self illusion....it just seems different! ❤️

Maybe, seems like it's either recognized or its not. This question implies that there is a real "you" that could benefit from "seeing" this. What's being said is there isn't a "you" The "you" that wants to see this, is the illusion of self! ❤️

It's nothing because its the end of the self construct that wasn't actually there to begin with. Enlightenment is liberation from the needy self illusion basically.....but nobody becomes liberated. It's not a state or a better position for a you. It's the revelation that there never was a you. ❤️

Yup, & there's not even a we that "adds it".....it just seems to happen. Nothing happens in the sense that there isn't a real individual for something to even happen for....it's an illusion of self awareness. There's not even anyone to ....Be That 😳 ❤️

@Bruins8000 Yeah man, Its completely random and meaningless. There are no goals or end results needed. Thats the unconditional freedom.....but I understand how that can feel disappointing.....notice its only disappointing for someone expecting meaning or purpose though! Expectations are human creations!