VeganAwake

Bahaha..... this is why I love this forum! I f****** love leo's brutal honesty sometimes. Should do a Q&A episode of people on The Forum asking questions and you answering them. ♥

Well it's just that it's not a teaching or a belief system, it's the end of a "you" in which could hold or have a belief system....it's the freedom from those conditioned and conceptual belief systems. Enlightenment is just not a something that a someone attains or reaches after enough meditation or spiritual practices. It's the clear recognition that the very individual attempting to find or become awakened in the firstplace, isn’t real & never actually existed.....it only seemed to be!! It's the end of the veganawake character that would dislike a post. It's fairly rare from what I've seen ? ♥

It's the physical and mental experience of being a real individual(me) localized as or within the body. That very same illusion of self will also identify as the higher self or as god or whatever it needs to keep itself intact. ♥

Empty and full Empty of meaning/purpose, full of everything!

There isn't a you that's confused or could become awake! That's the revelation....that's the freedom! ♥

Reality is infinite and described often as singular or one because there never was a real separate individual to begin with.... not in this body and not in any of them, it was just an illusion of self, an illusion of ownership and doership! Reality is unknowable in the sense that it can't be described or put in a box and checked off as understood or hung on a nail. And there is no answer to why that is needed! ♥

Yes it's as if it places an overlay of meaning purpose and value over top of reality and functions from that perspective.... Everything feels personal! The sense of self will create all kinds of mystical and fantastic stories about what enlightenment is or would be like....& it thinks there will be a firework show when it's finally attained! ♥

Nah bro that's just spiritual ego which simply can't fathom its own unreality! Enlightenment has nothing to do with learning a bunch of spiritual concepts/beliefs and attempting to make sense of it while convincing apparent others of its truth. It's the end of those attempts through the clear recognition that the attemptor was never real from the start! The biggest problem for the ego is death, so it will create any kind of delusion in which it can convince itself of its eternal existence! And the cosmic joke is it's already not real! ♥

Well it's not actually a feeling, it's more like a clear recognition that the "sense of self" within the body isn't a real thing. It's the bodily sensations and conditioning which seem to make up this important experience called life. Without the conditioning saying it's this or it's that,.....it's just an empty appearance seemingly happening for no one. It's full and it's empty! ♥

That it's just what seems to be happening! It's not that consciousness or awareness doesn't seem to be happening, it's that there isn't a real self experiencing it.... the experiencer is the illusion of separation! ♥

Got to break that cycle you're putting anxiety on top of anxiety. Find something you enjoy doing and can also make survival money. The not doing is causing more anxiety than the doing! ♥

It's signifying all the seemingly different things happening within everything. The apparent separation within the whole of everything(duality & nonduality) ♥

There's apparent division between two physical bodies or a fence or a tree. But the division of being a real separate individual within the body, witnessing and experiencing reality(w/ meaning, purpose, value)...... that very sense of "I am here" "this is real" is the illusion of self or ego! In that sense enlightenment is the recognition that the very one attempting to have a recognition, isn't a real entity! It seems fairly rare interestingly enough. ♥

In a funny and shocking way sometimes the nonduality revelation reveals that even the idea of unification is silly because there was never anyone separate in the first place in which could become unified..... there's only everything! Absolutely no other forum like this! ♥

Totally, Awakening reveals there was nothing right or wrong with those apparent clouds seemingly blocking the warm sunshine, and a clear sunny day....well that's like the cherry on top ? ♥

There isn't an answer or a truth to land on or discover....thats the real shocker! Reality is completely unstable and unknowable....and any knowledge, security or stability is totally illusory! It's madness & anarchy....literally nothing surprises me anymore ? ♥

What? You told me you had a crush on Jim....you said you loved his hair style. ♥

Is there actually a someone being controlled? Is the experiencer actually there? Take a close LOOK! ♥

It's not a something to be understood bro! But it's recognized when the one trying to understand it goes for a long walk off a short plank ☺

Yeah bro, The sense of self believing it's somewhere else seemingly hides it. (The Open Secret) When that illusory believer gets out the way, liberation is already what IS! Nobody Becomes Enlightened! It's not an attaining for someone, it's a falling away of noone. Trip right? ♥

There just isn't anyone making progress on the so-called spiritual path with meditation practices.....when that's clearly recognized the cosmic joke is revealed! Laughing may occur or not....it's fun either way good sir! ♥

Interestingly enough tier 2 wouldn't ask! That's only a tier 1 apparent conundrum! ♥

@axiom Yeah man there never was an ego/onion with layers.... there just seemed to be. Enlightenment isn't a disidentification/denial as a someone process. It's realizing there never was a real 'you' to begin with! It was an illusion of self. & there can't be a real disidentification process when it's clearly recognized that there just never was a real identity in the first place! ♥

What's truly longed for is to just be completely content with what's currently happening. Notice how the thoughts always seem to need something. They are very needy in nature aren't they. They can even seem to have a need to stop being needy thoughts ? What's underneath that need? THIS is already everything, it's already complete!! ♥

I'm kind of afraid to click play that girl looks hangry!!