VeganAwake

Oh 'YOU' thought the topic was about 'YOU'... no way Jose ❤

Nothing really dies... it's recognized to have never been. If you believe there is a ME and an Ego then Awakening hasn't occurred because the ME and the Ego are not separate. Illumination is just another word for enlightenment or liberation ❤

Yes the freedom that is unraveled with enlightenment or Liberation is immeasurable for sure.... But Most mental health issues need to be dealt with and addressed with proper medication and mental health professionals trained in these areas. I've seen someone go from barely wanting to live, to feeling really well on a day-to-day basis within 7 months. It's shocking how many suffer in silence. ❤

Yes there can be all kinds of glimpses that can occur. Here the self was just clearly seen to be completely a figment of imagination. It was recognized there just never was a ME. And what's funny is it was completely ordinary but shocking simultaneously. Yes those samadhi films are spot on, the third one should be coming out soon I believe ❤

Yes the quotes are a joke ? ❤

@Javfly33 I think you should recognize there's a time and a place, and this ain't your time or place ❤

There's no Global shift in Consciousness that's happening. These are tough times period. It is what it is and that's all that's happening ❤

Staying sober could also be the craziest trip of all don't forget that ❤

You have to empty out the glass completely bud. Right now you're so full of concepts it's spilling over the top of the glass. The mind is accustomed to believing that the accumulation of knowledge will get it what it wants. But Awakening is the letting go or dropping of all conceptual knowledge to reveal what was already the case... prior to the socially conditioned mind matrix creating the dream story. Awakening is the disentangling from the socially conditioned mind Matrix of thought, known as 'ME'. So the Mind actually becomes a hindrance to Awakening and it's not until the Mind does an in-ward flip in on itself and recognizes the futility of the way it operates, will the mind become liberated from the "ME" illusion!! ❤

But that's why it's called Awakening brother. For the sense of self there's always the search for a better experience in the future.... that's literally how it perpetuates it's illusory existence. Let's be honest everybody really wants to be done with seeking, to find closure, to have an answer, to know the truth But there isn't an answer or a truth for everything....everything just is. So in that sense the closure ends up being the recognition that there was never a secret truth hidden somewhere awaiting to be discovered.... The truth is that there isn't one. ❤

It's not that there isn't apparent other bodies walking around... It's that the sense of "ME" in the body that claims "I am here and everyone else is out there"... is an ILLUSION! ❤

Everyone has trouble in this area because the "ME" experiences from self centered perception. It's not that there isn't apparent separation between objects... It's that the sense of "ME" within the body that believes "I am here and everything else is out there" is an illusion! ❤

When the bottom of the bucket falls out, it never holds water again. It will be freedom from the mind ❤

The ordinary extraordinary ? ❤

You would probably enjoy Robert Wolfe's Ajata Project ❤

In other words: The finger-pointing; The space in between; The moon itself and the name moon is all equally the Eternal Tao or wholeness. ❤

The sense of self has to constantly perpetuate it's illusory existence. In other words if it's not seeking it's dying ❤

And this really can't be comprehended prior to Awakening.... prior to seeing through the sense of self. That's because the sense of self always perceives from a subject/object perspective. It will always project wholeness being somewhere other than here. ❤

The Tao that is named is also the Tao. The signposts, pointers and teachings are also it. To believe wholeness is somewhere else is duality. Wholeness is already the case.... a misunderstanding does not constitute real duality.... that's why it's called an illusion ❤

The words are just expressions used for communication purposes. The experience of being an individual is ultimately unreal yes, BUT it still feels very real. The same way a mirage in the desert has the ability to keep you walking for water up ahead. The water was ultimately never there, but the thought about getting a cold drink of water soon is felt and experienced in the body right? Most seekers start with the deep conviction that they are a real separate individual in the body and that with enough diligent practice can one day become whole and complete or experience enlightenment. Jim and Tony are simply pointing out what is already the case. There never was a separate individual. "The separation never occurred" -- A Course in Miracles

The message seems to transcend the idea of a someone liking or disliking anything. It leaves you empty handed without a leg to stand on. ❤

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Yes the prison cell is 'you' and it isn't real, it's an illusion ❤

I was just pointing out the importance of emptying the glass. The issue with reading about what enlightenment is, is that the 'sense of self' creates a story of what it believes the words to mean... for example God Consciousness might be taken as becoming an all-powerful all-knowing being... See the 'sense of self' will twist the meaning of the words around to fit its idea of enlightenment. ❤

@allislove ❤