VeganAwake

Yes, it's been called 'to die before you die' but those words are pointers also. Something that never was cannot commit suicide... that would imply it was once real. The no self may be experienced as a belief over there... not arguing that at all ❤ The end of suffering is the deep recognition that the sufferer never existed. It's recognized as simply a misidentification with contracted energy, thoughts, emotions, perceptions, belief's as the separate 'ME' character located somewhere in the body.

❤ why would 'You' say Santa Claus and your imaginary childhood friend are real? They are completely unreal just like the separate sense of self located in the body. Non-duality is easier understood after its recognized the separate sense of self is an illusion or Maya.(even after awakening it can take a little while to clear up and understand the implications of non-duality) at least that's what apparently seemed to happen here. It's not that there aren't apparent separate bodies with apparent space between them and such, rather its that there is no separate individual inside of the bodies in which duality could even be real. There is a conditioned body there that comes onto the Forum, makes videos, eats dinner, goes into the woods, prefers coffee over tea, and turns its head when its name is called.... it even knows to jump out of the way of a moving train and how to drive a vehicle....BUT that sense of 'I' that claims all these actions, decisions, preferences and creates stories about it all is completely illusory. It's completely irrational nonsensical and ridiculous to the sense of self because it doesn't want this... it wants to survive...

This reminded me of a book I read talking about the collapsing of the Ivory Tower that we believe we create and hold onto for dear life. The interesting part is nothing was actually created... it was just a collaboration of concepts held by no one. Then of course that also makes the collapsing just another concept. Nothing is ever really built or deconstructed.... but dang if it doesn't sure feel that way ?

There are apparent distinctions apparent separation apparent duality all occurring Within Oneness or non-duality. The belief or misunderstanding in distinction or separation does not actually make separation or Duality real. Non-duality isn't a concept to be tossed away. It's pointing to what apparently remains after all concepts are dropped.

There's nothing wrong with seeking for knowledge and wisdom. what are you trying to find that's not already available? There's already solutions to world hunger for example, which causes immense suffering around the world for obvious reasons. One study showed if humans simply used all the corn and soy crops that we grow to feed the factory farmed animals it would be enough to reduce world hunger by 80%. This passed down wisdom and knowledge was never hidden... it just seems so because it's so simple and obvious it's overlooked. The ego construct is separation... why would First World countries want to change their living the good life to reduce suffering around the world... what's in it for us we ask( see this is the ego) We say we want a solution to end World suffering and then we continue to buy clothes made in sweatshops that keep families in bondage.... we want a solution but we don't want to change our own patterns that create the suffering to begin with. This isn't a wisdom and knowledge problem it's an ego problem... it's the ego construct. We aren't willing to step outside our own personal agendas. Have you seen this video and talks a lot about what we were discussing... a great film ❤ I totally understand what you're saying please don't think I don't...

Just stories attempting to describe the indescribable. You could call it a misunderstanding of true non-duality but that again is another story haha. But that's just what happens... yes Separation and Duality is an illusion because there aren't any separate individuals. It's the dream or Maya illusion of the self. ❤

Where do you think the wisdom came from? It wasn't the Absolute Infinity Universal Encyclopedia Handbook!! The belief that there's always something more to find is in fact the separate self/seeking energy surviving.... there's always more to find... it's endlessly needy. But there isn't a real answer because there isn't a real question... The one endlessly seeking for an answer to its dilemma about what THIS all means is an illusion... it's Maya illusion of the self or Seeking energy or the Knower. There's nothing wrong with it...the seeking energy is also perfect whole and complete... it's just that there's no end to because it's absolute like you said. This seeking energy will just keep adopting so-called new Concepts knowledge and beliefs perpetuating its imaginary existence until it dies. So then the question may arise, what to do then? There's nothing 'YOU' can do because 'YOU' isn't real. Liberation Nirvana Awakening Enlightenment Samadhi isn't for an individual... nobody gets enlightened. Hence why it's been called a lifting of the Veil. What's longed for is already the case. So either the seeking energy collapses or it does not.... simple as that. ❤

I will be the lucky one to find the answer to this absolute Infinity predicament.

Well there might be an experience there that believes that filling up a dream board would be better than all this forum talk or listening to so-called spiritual teachers... that's within the dream....the dream that there's something better to be doing than what's happening. When that knower or separate sense of self collapses, it's simultaneously recognized that everything that arises is already perfect whole and complete for no one. There are plenty of dreams to go around but there isn't anyone that has them... that's Maya illusion of the self. Wish you Joy as well brother take care ❤

@Winny you bet ❤

Hi, I know there is so much information out there and there seems to be so many apparent different opinions, concepts, ideas and beliefs. I used to be a die-hard Seeker looking for the Truth at any cost. One day that seeking energy collapsed and it was recognized the one seeking was an illusion. See there's nothing to find because there's nothing actually missing and no actual separate individual to find anything. It's pure unconditional freedom but for No One. It's common to turn to Saints and sages of the past for answers for fulfillment. There's nothing wrong with it. It should be recognized that these individuals also had their own biases and or deeply instilled religious dogmas held tightly onto. It's the Hope that something will go on living after the physical bodies death( awareness Consciousness the self) the list goes on and on. Awakening is to die before you die... it's not for the individual... the individual wants to survive Awakening and bask in its fulfillment... this is its predicament... it wants cake and to eat it too. There's a Q&A video that communicates what was discussed... it also mentions the brain and its function it plays. ❤

@Codrina ❤ I really enjoyed these positive affirmations by Louise Hay My fav: " I love myself exactly the way I am"....100 x a day in the mirror for a month.

Positive outlook at its best ❤

@Nahm thanks brother ❤ yeah was trying for 5 minutes but the mouth kept moving ?

Thanks man, ❤ Yep for sure what we resist persists. So much of the thoughts that arise are just habitual chronic thinking patterns that when not entertained sort of run out of steam eventually.

@Ananta oh thanks yeah cheap special effects hehe ❤

Yes absolutely...when it's recognized it's already what's happening...

Yes and in a sense the letting yourself feel through the emotions becomes the positivity because the resistance to what IS has been loosened. We can never know what the closing of one door and the opening of another will reveal ❤ Watch from 32:14 - 33:52

This was the first time I watched this video... I love how simple of a description he gave ❤

@NorthNow it's not necessary because it's not real. So-called Enlightenment is the recognition that there never was a separate individual that could ever attain something called Enlightenment or liberation. But this isn't something that needs to be recognized in the future.... it's already the case whether it's recognized or not. hence why it's been described as the lifting of the Veil ❤ Like a fog lifting to reveal what was already there ❤

It's not something that's gained... it's a recognition that the separate sense of self / ego / the sufferer is an illusion. And thereby revealing the absurd notion that something "that never was" could ever gain anything ❤

It's not that when Awakening occurs everything somehow looks different or New Dimensions of reality are revealed. It's recognized that the apparent individual that gives meaning purpose and value to everything which it seems to experience, isn't real. As long as it seems like there is a sense of 'ME' here that will get something out of THIS, everything will be meaningful and full of purpose. When that collapses, everything is what it already is...THIS!! Not for any reason, not for any individual... simply because it just IS.

it's not just the ego, your entire separate sense of 'Self' is a bundle of thoughts... If a doctor zapp's your brain with electricity you would turn into a vegetable.... And of course the separate sense of self would not accept reality being illusion... it only knows the real and has no idea what unreal is. Yes absolutely it is what it is... There's still a body with all of its senses.... but what is there without the thought stories.?.. a dream, reality consciousness, absolute, god....or just more thought stories? God is the realest thing hmmm... Please don't take my word for it... Inspect it ❤

There isn't a 'YOU'... that's a dream or Maya illusion of the self. So you could say eternity is eternal but that's just a story the dream character created. there isn't a separate individual inside the body that's alive now, so there won't be anyone to live or die later.

Like this ❤ Yes we lay down our web of beliefs over the top of what's happening and judge from that position... Here's a joke: Do you know how to make God laugh? Tell him your plans... We want things to go certain ways according to our conditioned beliefs.. Apparent happenings are neither good nor bad it's just the thoughts we believe that make them so. ❤