VeganAwake

Awakening is not what you think it is. The very you that is trying to acquire awakening is recognized to be unreal. The very you that feels like if it could just stumble on the right information it could become enlightened, is recognized to be an unreal individual. And I'm not talking about the physical body, I'm talking about the sense of ME that believes itself to be the physical body and mind. It's a disentangling from the socially conditioned mind matrix known as ME. ❤

Haha yeah no joke bro the mind is stubborn like a mule 😃

@Raptorsin7 Just focus on the In and Out breathing. When you notice yourself getting caught up in thinking, bring the focus back to the breath. If the thinking becomes overwhelming don't resist it, just simply notice it and then bring the focus back to the breath. Just go for 20 minutes in the morning afternoon and evening when you can. ❤

👍 The freedom it entails cannot be mistaken. & It doesn't usually happen all at once, it's an unfolding that can last months or years.... in very very rare cases it's a quick unhappening ❤

Well, whenever that feeling of "this is not it arises" hit yourself in the head with a hammer. It will become clear eventually ❤

To the sense of self change is seen as a threat, something dangerous to its survival agenda.

Nothing is wasted because there isn't a real goal which needs to be attained. It was fun wasn't it? Back in my younger days we would go to barter fairs and trade things for LSD mushrooms and weed. We were partying and escaping the so-called confines of reality. Later it was recognized those confines were never real to begin with. It was always freedom.

👍 your welcome, it was a futile attempt here to describe nothing. But nothing is known here because nothing is unknowable. ❤

Yes monkey mind and self referential thinking become a runaway train in life. When I is clearly seen to be an illusion the energy that was put into upholding that illusory identity drastically dies down. Here it wasn't a forgetting who I thought I was or how to function in life, but recognizing I was never a real in the first place. ❤

Cool experience 👍, What happened here was after a couple years of desperate seeking and lots of meditation, one random day it just become obvious that this ME character that I was identified as, wasn't real. That this I was more of an assumption or concept that just kept playing over and over again in thought. It felt like this weight that wasn't even noticed before was lifted away. Weird thing was it felt completely ordinary and shocking simultaneously. Needless to say life has been a lot less serious since this occurred back in 2018. Liberation from the self that took the dream way too seriously ❤

Yeah that's right. Oneness points to the recognition that the individual experiencer within the body is an illusion. (Adviata) While sunyata declares even that apparent experience of no separation as ultimately illusory. (Ajata) If you're interested check out Robert Wolfe's Ajata Sunyata Project: "The seeming person continues to live out her life (from supposed “birth” to “death”) in a seeming world, in a seeming universe. Yet, in what could be said to be the true or ultimate reality of emptiness, not anything ever has, or could, happen. From the ultimate standpoint, there is not anything that ever needs to be explained. Any questions which arise and any answers are within the Dream–and the Dream is not real. Those who understand this, the sages would say, have awakened from the big Dream. Whether one does or does not, in the end, makes absolutely no difference. But for those who do awaken, all their questions–within the Dream–are seen to be utterly empty" - Robert Wolfe

Sounds like you need a nice long vacation away from them and their opinions. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

You could save money, teach yourself how to live off the land and go off grid. It may be harder but you could work for yourself at least.

Yes people are caught up in the rat race trying to survive... It's not right or wrong it's just what's apparently happening. They simply can't help but put their self agenda as priority for survival because they believe they're a real separate individual within the body. When this is seen clearly there can be a loosening up of the seriousness of life.... kind of like getting into a really good movie but knowing they are just actors playing out a drama. But start with seeing this within yourself first. ❤

I have an imaginary pet dog, his will seems to be to sniff butts, chase squirrels and slobber. I am desperately trying to align my will with his but I got smacked really hard with a cane yesterday for sniffing a butt so lately I've been quite hesitant to continue this pursuit.

"The ‘me’ is a bundle of memories, empty words: that is what we cling to; the very essence of the separation between you and me, they and we." - J krishnamurti This episode of Leo's goes along quite well with this topic... didn't see it until just now.

that's good 👍

Labeling apparent reality as God is perfect and simultaneously flawed.

I hope you're not planning on hurting yourself.❤ I realize you may be talking about ego death or the recognition that it isn't real.

Freedom from the need for anything to be other than what it is.

@Terell Kirby yes exactly, meaning purpose and value are socially conditioned concepts within the dream story of being a separate individual(Maya/Matrix). Enlightenment is freedom for nobody from these illusory parameters of experience. ❤

There was never a you to be cut off, and an infinite source of intelligence is just a concept. Notice the sense of me does not like free floating....it always tries to identify as something(infinite intelligence) Do you feel infinitely intelligent?

👍 The identification AS the individual with all the suppressed emotional trauma is the issue. But simultaneously it's not denial or detachment, it's the revelation that this traumatized individual with all of its so-called negative baggage isn't real. It's an illusion! When this revelation is deeply embodied/seen clearly, all the trauma and baggage starts naturally falling away because there's nothing for it to attach and cling to any longer. ❤

@assx95 ❤ that's enlightenment. 😃

Survival and spirituality are not separate pursuits. The parameters and hindrances are illusory. ❤