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@NoSelfSelfPlease elaborate shortly. How would one approach this. I know I can't help, that can only start from the point when he wants to be helped. And now he just thinks he's got the truth. So I am trying to avoid that. How do you understand someone trough speaking and action (not mentally). In all that negative energy that is ready to blow and scatter all over the place. The actual question emerging actually is: How does one speak/relate to blue/red fundamentalist that sees you as an opponent, and leaving him be is somehow out, for he is a family member. @purerogue Lets call it ethno-nationalism in its almost most extreme form, as I stated above. Stuff in there that is on some surface level true, gets glued in to the web of the ideology as the most important absolute truth.

This video kept me thinking, trying to spontaneously fit the puzzle. It is almost evident that Europe will have to do massive, collective shadow work in order to transit from its famous green to yellow lets say, also the blue/orange components of the society need to go spiral forward. Due to technological boosting of everything we do, this will also have to happen fairly fast. Or at least there is a need felt for it to happen fast. Its somewhat puzzling to me, how can this happen. After all, the shadow work happens on an individual level, you go in and un-wire that stuff. A collective can't do shadow work. When enough individuals have done this, only then the collective changes. Witch lead me to : The archetype of Odin seems to be alive and moving inside the collective metaphysical layer of Europe. In his positive form, trough embodiment, symbolically speaking: he can inspire people to willfully hang on the tree of life, upside down, by themselves and gaze deep into the waters bellow, he can also inspire people to take their left eye (analytical) out in order to see the true picture (right eye - the soul). Pattern wise, what happens after "the hanged man" is death, and only then, temperance. This is probably the best way things can arrange themselves . Witch is this conscious embodiment. If this spirals in an unconscious way, other collective archetypes can easily take a grip, and lead things another way. Haven't put much thought into those, because one intrigued me at this time... It would be interesting to see that massive spike of depression in the next 10/20 years, only to die and be reborn. This is my attempt to bring my scattered thoughts into form. What are your thoughts on this ?

A guy that makes great psychedelic type of cartoons/animations. Differently worth watching for all psychoanalysts and alike. Enjoy.

@Cepzeu Its still quite useful though, not to be underestimated. Its small, yet it can tell so much.

Usually the biggest people make is that they think this is a personality test. Personality is a huuuuuuge dimension influenced by huuuge amount of factors: biological, genetic, evolutionary, societal, parenting and who knows what else. And no wonder it is like this, that is how it is sold. No one likes to be sold just a peace of the puzzle, everyone wants the whole puzzle. What mayers-brigs model does is that it maps your preference for usage of certain cognitive functions. That what that letter stack represents. Preference and order of use, thats all. Each person has all 8 of the cognitive functions, but doesn't use them all. Some are repressed, some are in the shadow. If one uses all of them he would be running around like a mad man, or someone on acid. This is detrimental to the human experience. But like all else, its just a map, infact, a part of the map, lets say a geo-thermal map, you can find other personality maps that are not geo-thermal So in your case the ISFP stack is a formula from witch you can extract your functions in order: -Introverted Feeling - Primary -Extroverted Sensing - Secondary -Introverted Intuition- Tertiary -Extroverted Thinking- Repressed The other 4, you rarely have access to, lets say on psychedelics, or in a very deep state of meditation you can have a glimpse. Huge stress can also bring them to the surface. The deeper you go the less developed this functions are. Also each function has a different tone when it is on a different position.(Primary, secondary,tertiary,repressed) When trying to understand myers-brigs model, it is best to go and research about the cognitive functions and how they operate. Not the letter stack as a meme (ISFP), that makes you a target for archetypal possession. Note that this is a Jungian thing. It goes very fast and easy into the sea of the abstract. That in part is why it is rejected as an inaccurate and BS test all around. You can also try the "big 5" test, that one is widely used for prediction of results, used for statistics ect.

Glory to you and your people

How/why did perception came into being ?

Self-ordering chaos, or a self-dissolving order can be a useful human perspective. You can smell the intelligence behind it. One can also see it as potential not taken form.