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@Petals Indeed! Seems a very intellectual blog. Given the multitude of Fourth Way and Gurdjieff websites, I'm going to add some more links to websites that have more of the basics of the Gurdjieff Work. For those who have the time and want to research, this will provide a more varied selection. https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/ http://fourthwayschool.org/ https://ggurdjieff.com/fourth-way/ The three links above are to sites that are more foundational than the links below. https://www.gurdjieff.justwizard.com/index.html http://www.rahul.net/raithel/otfw/fourthway.html http://www.higherbeingbodies.com/ https://www.gurdjieff-bibliography.com/Current/17_moore_ revelation_28mar_2004-07-03.pdf https://gurdjieff.org.gr/ae/index.htm Website dedicated to the study of "The Tales"

Awakening for men not women,,,,,hmm,, that must mean that women are more naturally awake in general than men and so men need awakening more than women? ? Sounds like a probable Trump supporter has come into your life.

Maybe it's necessary to express in a negative way in order to make certain points. I don't know,,,,, If you have a friend that gets on your nerves at times because they talk too much, do you ever mention this too them? It depends on many different factors this point, I guess,,,

"Psilocybin mushrooms make nicer people" Paul Stamets says near the end of the interview. Good discussion here touching on how therapists are now being trained implementing psychedelics to break opioid addiction in people. New paradigm unfolding now it seems with the stories of success from the underground psychedelic therapy pioneers. They're moving quickly into the mainstream with Canada, Mexico, and Portugal providing supportive environments with their relaxed drug laws. Paul Stamets recommends 2 new movies concerning mushrooms Fantastic Fungi Dosed

Gollum stays in Narrative consciousness all the time. There's an alternative to being an unguided Gollum, I remind myself. Beginning with self observation which is free of inner criticism. On the path we can either heal or create. From ACIM - Heal outside the Kingdom. Create within the Kingdom.

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I love the heart ❤️ energy in this. Hadn't watched in years. Willie Nelson looks almost young in this. ???‍?

Spontaneity is a part of the mix and a pointer towards an understanding of the scope and nature of phenomenology could you say? An Awakened spotenaity is the transformation of conditioned reactiveness. No? Reply with a subtle statement or a bold statement. A declaration, assertion, or question? Maybe a song?

Chickens cooped up will pick at one another more than free reange birds. In the big commercial chicken houses, I've observed it in the brief amount of time that I've spent around them. Growing up, a percentage of my friends belonged to families that were held hostage by a mortgage against their farm and the promises of riches in the poultry business. In the commercial houses it appeared like scapegoating would take place in the 'chicken community'. Weakened birds would eventually be pecked to death by the others. No escape! I've seen cattle do it as well. While putting out hay in the winter, I would observe how the weakest ones of the herd were always being "T-boned' by the healthy animals. Chickens are worse with their brutality though, I believe. You could call some of them aggravated chicken peckers in how they would gang up on the weak ones. The more damaged the scapegoated chickens became, the more attention they seemed to attract from the aggravated chicken peckers. Horses and goats pigs aren't exempt from forms of this behavior either. People are like this too, it seems. They sometimes behave as the human equivalent of an aggravated chicken pecker. It's an automatic or mechanical behavior. Unconscious behavior in humans. Observing schadenfreude in oneself and waking up is required. Waking up has to be an inside job. Ocke de Boer phrased it as people acting like unguided projectiles. Until the emotional center gets purified, we may periodically behave as unguided projectiles or unguided Golems' riding on the wild pendulum of emotions. The Intellectual emotional complex has to be balanced and worked on through getting grounded in the belly center. That's part of the recipe for fulasnitamnian awareness or three centered awareness. Watching an old episode of Joe Rogan with Graham Hancock. They got on the subject of people acting shitty on the internet for no good reason at all at about 48 minutes in. This reminded me of how people often feed unconsciously on negativity,,,, I just discovered that Joe Rogan is cool about ten years after the fact. The same way I 'discovered' Nirvana as well as the Red Hot Chili Peppers were good bands. The YouTube Precogs are sending me these old podcasts to watch.

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Below is taken from the classic -The Master Game. Robert DeRopp is describing here some common traps on the path that we fall into. I enjoyed his Biographical account in Warriors Way as much, if not more. He was a student of Ouspensky.lived a very interesting life. By profession he was a biologist. Either one of these books make for a good alarm clock.

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@liamnewsom202 I think I understand or at the least, I relate somewhat. Just pictured Echart Tolle saying something like -- "just let your transformed presence inform her." Trying to wake people up sometimes makes them mad and if that happens, you're lucky if you're able to go run and hide. Some schools teach we each have a psychological blind spot that has repercussions and it usually takes years to address. Thats just my 2 cents for whatever it's worth. Good luck to you.

Pearls in the chicken feed I would bet that at some point in the future, or in Heaven, there's going to be a street of gold named Ocke de Boer Boulevard and also one named Red Hawk Boulevard. Just because of four little books between the both of them. Tonight, there's not any me. Just a feeling of well being.

@fridjonk You bet! Actually, I started reading in it some today. His style of writing is a little easier to digest than Grof's. That's one of my first impressions. Also, to add some interesting trivia. There's a second appendix in the back titled : Pushing the Limits of Astrological Correspondence This does look interesting. ? My post early this morning is a good example of how I suddenly exhibit pettiness. My words about Donald Trump were a little bit harsh. A fitting expression in the form of a question would be. Who pissed in my Cheerios? I was tempted to hide the harsh remarks but I guess I'll leave it as an example and record of my fractiousness and volatility.

I appreciate all the contributions to this music thread. Over the years I've given rap music an honest try on more than one occasion. A very few rap songs have small bits that I like but for the most part, rap just doesn't do much for me. I will try to be open to it in the future still, though. Also with the hard driving songs where the singers growl-scream the lyrics. ,,, Although it doesn't 'do it' for me, I appreciate the hell-raising, youthful, irreverent, vitality of the music and enjoy some of the videos anyhow.. This music thread isn't about my own varied musical interests. The more varied this playlist expands, the more it has a world centric feel to it which is neat in itself. Thanks, everyone.

I'm not mad and this is not a rant. ✌️??‍? It just starts out resembling one. I'm thankful that I'm no longer hooked on the news like I used to be. Politics too. I used to always get hooked into (identified) with at least one political issue or news story everyday and get angry. What a waste of time that is. I just don't care in the same way that I used to. Donald Trump getting elected President helped me to quit watching the news. Not meaning to be overly negative but I don't want to hear anything that dumb bastard has to say. Even with the sound turned down on the tv, I can tell he's stupid and crooked. Sure, there is some projection there on my part but it's not 100% projection. Not that I don't love him as a human being but as the power hungry personality that he is, occupying the office of the President, he's just a walking pile of dog shit. I've been fairly quiet lately and reading on Stan Grof's New two volume set, The Way of the Psychonaut. I bought Christopher M. Bache's Diamonds from Heaven - LSD And The Mind Of The Universe at the same time. I'm tempted to go ahead and start it while I'm still on Stan Grof's book. I've done a lot of experimenting and have taken a lot of trips in the last year. A lot more than is probably necessary for an average person on the path of Actualization. I really enjoy Lsd and Cubensis mushrooms . Mdma is interesting and nice but I thought ketamine was a nightmare experience. It felt like being lost in a forest of Barber poles on the side of a steep mountain. Just a really unpleasant experience. I remember from watching a YouTube of Christopher Bache, he said anything over 600 ug is just a waste and I feel like I've verified that for myself. On one occasion last year I took 1500 micrograms and several times I took around 1000 micrograms but I don't recommend doing that. Anyone who wants to try lsd should start with low doses to gauge themselves for subsequent trips. For some reason I seem to have a strong tolerance to Lsd. When on Lsd, the speed at which a chain of thoughts and concepts go through my mind is just amazing, at times. I barely knew who Kobe Bryant was because I'm not a fan of professional spectator sports but I "saw" the effect of his untimely death in the blue and orange SD groups of people. A fair amount of these people probably voted for Trump or were/are Trump fans. I felt how they were feeling their emotional pain and saw how they were kicked in the gut by the loss of this talented man and his family in that helicopter crash. It was such a weird experience for me in a way. To be, you might say, inside the head/heart of a lot of these people in a way that I normally wouldn't have been. It made me realize how something so unrelated could have an effect on political elections through a weird chain of events. Or maybe expressed more accurately, how this had an emotional effect on a certain percentage block of voters. It gets difficult for me to express the insight,,,, The insight came about during one of those lsd high flow chain of thought states of consciousness, along with a dozen other things. For instance, the curiosity of whether any Astronauts have ever requested Molly Hatchet music to be played while they were in space.,,,, What? Yeah. That's how it goes a lot of times for me on trips. The profound is mixed in with the absurd, the silly, the outrageous, the painful and sad. Just like everyday life but at a much quicker pace and with a little more intensity. I wish I had kept a better diary of all the different trips. ❤️✌️

Quit Smoking Sep 10 [196 day streak]; ? Good going guy. That's a pretty solid gain.

Thanks for putting up with me when I go off into left field.

Wasn't sure if sister was laughing or crying. I think our skulls are close to the same shape. The best scene in the whole movie.