Zigzag Idiot

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  1. I thought I had posted a Teaching Cynthia Bourgeault had given about 3 or 4 years ago called the yo yo of Being. I've searched but can't seem to find it very easy. It was a turning point for me. The yo yo of Being is about our daily fluctuating change of state of Consciousness. The Science of Idiotism is more about stage growth, like Spiral Dynamics. Growth in stage or station of Consciousness combined with the experience of the yo yo in different degrees of being or states of Consciousness could be looked at as just another map of Consciousness vaguely similar to the Wilber-Coombs matrix,, I think,,,? Change of topic. It seems like the more I admire someone, the greater the odds are that I will unintentionally infuriate or embarrass them. Seems that way anyhow. Following the council of the I-CHING The Oracle of the Cosmic Way, has probably reduced this phenomena somewhat. Also, I've realized through the ICHING how ones negative self-talk will manifest in one's world without one even being aware of it. Phrases like - "Oh, they are just that way" or so and so "will always do something stupid. So in being more mindful of the negative phrases that I habitually use will reduce the occurrences in which I manifest in a negative way is the same thing as unconsciously creating a spell on matter with words. Having basic trust as well as goodwill is paramount. Making peace with usage of the term Idiot seems crucial from this perspective. To say Idiot and not have a negative inner condition,,,. Idiot in describing one's Essence type would be in this light. I may be appearing to contradict myself here some but with the right intention, this is reversed and instead I'm just paradoxical. This might be a capacity of a certain stage of growth or station.
  2. @peanutspathtotruth I wasn't aware of those particular YouTubes, Thanks, I'll have to check those out sometime. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, This is a good article based on Phd., Episcopal Priest, Cynthia Bourgeault's articulation of the Gurdjieff Work.Iit's to the point about Three Centered Awareness becoming Three Centered knowing. In All and Everything Gurdjieff called 3 Centered Awareness,- Fulasnitamnian Awareness An expression of the Law of Three, it was pointed out to students in a Wisdom School that the Law of Three produces a Fourth,,,, a new airing. I copied and pasted the complete article from this link. It reads better with italicized highlights and dividers on the website itself, though. https://wisdomwayofknowing.org/resource-directory/three-centered-knowing/ elete Article Three-Centered Knowing Note: for a more detailed introduction to Three-Centered Knowing, see Chapter 3 of The Wisdom Way of Knowing Wisdom makes use of an ancient body of knowledge about the physiology of spiritual transformation and a methodology for increasing our “receptivity to higher meaning”. The human being can be considered “three-centered” or “three-brained.” The centers include: The Moving Center, which has 2 subsets: instinctive (like a ‘hard drive’) which regulates operational systems of the body; and moving center proper (more like ‘software’) which concerns outward and voluntary interactions with the physical world through our five senses, as well as movement and rhythm. The Emotional Center: (centered in the heart and solar plexus) This is not the seat or center of our personal affective life or our personal identity as some contemporary thinking would imply. In fact as Cynthia explains with regard to our attunement to our feelings, “The real mark of personal authenticity is not how intensely we can express our feelings but how honestly we can look at where we are coming from and spot the elements of clinging, manipulation, and personal agendas that make up so much of what we experience as our emotional life today.” Furthermore, ‘passions’ in the conventional sense of the word, actually divide the Heart (for example, over-clinging). The Heart, as the center of the emotional center, is for divine perception, serving as a bridge between our mind and body. It has the capacity to perceive paradox, the both/and. The Intellectual/Cognitive Center has a natural aptitude for reasoning, doubting, and making fine discriminations—all legitimate and necessary. But as Cynthia describes, this center has a limited capacity in spiritual life: “In terms of the spiritual journey, trying to find faith with the intellectual center is something like trying to play a violin with a saw; it’s simply the wrong tool for the job.” The path of Wisdom embraces the whole person: mind, heart, and body. The three centers working in harmony is the prerequisite for Wisdom knowing. In fact the notion of ‘sleep’ as opposed to conscious aware awakening, is an indication of finding yourself in one center only. When we are alive, balanced, and present in all three centers a higher consciousness and Presenceis available. These three centers of intelligence can serve as foundational elements around which individual or small group practices and experience is built. Paying attention to each center and weaving in opportunities to connect with each center helps cultivate three-centered awareness. Practicing Three-Centered Knowing Moving Center Practices A simple body centered exercise to practice in pairs, for noticing sensation and experiencing the resonate field of Presence: With a practice group or practice partners, take turns noticing and naming sensations in your body, each of you naming three sensations (ex: I am noticing my feet making contact with the floor, I feel tightness in my chest, there is ease in my belly). As one partner is speaking, the other is witnessing. See if you notice an energetic shift as you become more embodied. Notice times of bracing: Notice when you are in a state of bracing or grasping. Can you pause and reconnect with your heartbeat, your breath, your feet , your torso, and then return to the simple hand gestures of opening and closing, giving and receiving, being with what is. Incorporate gestures and body prayers: Try opening and closing your hands, feeling the sensations of grasping and letting go, or even try a full body prostration (as described in The Wisdom Way of Knowing, chapter 3). Emotional Center Practices Sacred Chanting wakes up the emotional center with sound, and can deepen the connectivity of the group. Try familiar Taize chants—freely available to listen and follow online. There is also a growing body of Wisdom chants pioneered by Darlene Franz, which can also be accessed online (see references and resource list below). Lectio Divina: can be practiced with any short piece of sacred text or passage. There are a variety of ways to approach this practice. Here is one suggestion: Start slowly reading a passage aloud, and allow yourself to be drawn to a sentence, a phrase, or even a single word that seems to attract your attention. Read the passage again slowly, quietly allowing your faculties (your reason, your imagination, or emotions) to begin to work with this passage. This is about a “heart to heart” encounter with the text…it will be different every time. Read a final time, resting in the sacred presence, and in deep receptivity with the experience. (Some groups may decide to include a period of centering prayer at this stage, as an alternative to meditating before or after the lectio.) As you feel complete with the first three steps, take turns sharing what you noticed or what became alive for you or impacted you from the passage. Many Wisdom groups begin by using The Gospel of Thomas in a Lectio Divina format. Intellectual/Cognitive Center Practices Whether as a personal individual practice, or in a small group, consider what material or area of interest might provide fruitful exploration. Some suggestions are: Discussing parts or chapters from Cynthia’s books, or books or readings from other Wisdom writers Taking one or a few Gospel of Thomas logions (passages) for discussion References and Resources: Books by Cynthia Bourgeault (Cynthia has many published books, and the following provide some specific references to Wisdom practices including those mentioned above): The Wisdom Way of Knowing The Wisdom Jesus Centering Prayer and Inner Awakening Chanting the Psalms The Gospel of Thomas by Lynn Bauman The Gospel of Thomas or other e-courses from Spirituality and Practice Wisdom Chant resources by Darlene Franz
  3. I agree about the ebb and flow of energy. People in general do have a tendency to feed on negative energy. I catch myself falling into it in an automatic way at times. I'm off and on, regarding visiting the general forum regularly but I think it's gotten better overall since joining back in December 2018. Some sharp cookies have shown up lately ,,, I thought,, @Preety_India I appreciate your presence here,,,
  4. Hey Everyone, give this Album a try! @jjer94 You've got a nice singing voice and a soulful, good sound. I bought your album Closet Heart, a couple of weeks ago, Got distracted for a few days and I'm back to listening to it again. I want to encourage everyone who is interested, to buy Brett's album through this Bandcamp link of his I quoted just above here. Those of you who can give a better articulated critique of his music than me should consider doing so. I'm confident it will most likely be a positive one for those who give it a listen. I'm impressed with his work. Being a bit of a dinosaur, I've never bought music this way. I like the set up. With the Bandcamp app, you always have access to your purchase. The links expand out and shows the lyrics also. Most likely there are features I haven't even discovered yet,,,
  5. Thank you, @Toby That helped to jog my memory. i really enjoyed two of her books on the Enneagram. Favorites right behind Almaas's Facets of Unity.
  6. @peanutspathtotruth Yes, you're correct on that. There were a handful who worked close for a while with Naranjo. Helen Palmer was also a part of that group. At the moment I can't remember any of the others I'm pretty sure that Almaas was a student of Chogum Trungpa's for a time too. I've never understood why Almaas has been so invisible it seems to the vast majority of spiritual seekers. The books he's written has really had an impact on my understanding and worldview. Thank you @peanutspathtotruth Glad you stopped in. Feel free to visit or make comments here anytime. ?‍♂️
  7. i tried to post this song near the front of this thread but the link was no good. Maybe this one will stick.
  8. @DrewNows Thanks I'll check it out sometime this evening. I've thought about this quite a bit. May decide to have some comments about this a bit later. Claudio Naranjo is the Granddaddy of The of Let's trash can the patriarchal era. He left his Automaton behind last year. Claudio Benjamín Naranjo Cohen (24 November 1932 – 12 July 2019) was a Chilean-born psychiatrist of Arabic/Moorish, Spanish and Jewish descent who is considered a pioneer in integrating psychotherapy and the spiritual traditions. He was one of the three successors named by Fritz Perls (founder of Gestalt Therapy),[citation needed] a principal developer of Enneagram of Personality theories and a founder of the Seekers After Truth Institute. He was also an elder statesman of the US[citation needed]and global human potential movement and the spiritual renaissance of the late 20th century.[1] He was the author of various books. from : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Naranjo
  9. The journal keeper here who Perfectly exhibits the characteristics of the Queen of hearts is absolutely right about the degree to which most men these days are absolute pigs. I confess to having a bit of that in me myself but I have just enough of a conscience to cringe when I see it in others or experience a degree of remorse when I catch a mechanical Part of myself that has dipped into that territory a little. You're assessment of Leo is not accurate though. You project. I say that with out a doubt. It’s not a judgement either. I catch myself projecting at times. Everyone does it to some degree. Reaching conclusions is a recipe for becoming emotionally miserable. I know I often sound like a know it all but it’s just a component of my essence type and those who it grates upon can rest assured that I frequently pay a price for it. But it’s worth it When on the rare occasion the arrow hits the bullseye and as a result I’m shown Love for taking a chance and going ahead and putting it out there. Queen of hearts is passionate and in the heat of emotion says- “off with their heads”. The King of hearts is also in you potentially or at times already. King of hearts follows behind and pardons those who are being hauled to the guillotine.
  10. Mechanical personality traits of the counterphobic enneatype 6, which is my enneatype- overcompensating the compulsive need to make qualifying remarks destructiveness rooted in the passion of fear mistrusting authority fighting for the underdog
  11. Im chilled, Laugh and have fun as well brother friend. ??✌️?‍♂️
  12. L Fascinating interview here. I get tickled at Russell Brand's quick wit. Actually this was a little overwhelming. The power of multinational corporations, military industrial corruption complex and the problems that seem to be on the horizon. Somewhat depressing with the picture painted of the powers that be. Jacques Perreti's description of how the Chinese frame problem solving reminded me very much of Gurdjieff's Law of three..Oddly enough the two videos below that I've watched in the last couple of days compliment it in a roundabout way. A lot of information is packed into this one for processing. This jives with the Fourth Way map of human development in that our 2 higher centers, higher emotional center and higher intellectual centers are already fully formed but remain disconnected until the lower centers are integrated and purified. More Rapture, Apocalypse, end of the World stuff. Delores Cannon has replaced David Icke, Drunvalo Malchezedek, and David Wilcock for me in the department of far out Woo Woo material that I'm drawn to. Trickster types and shady people seem to rely on plausible deniability. I can't name it at the moment but Delores Cannon has maybe the opposite of plausible deniabilty that allows her knowledge to rest in the "as if" category of possibly true which is entertainment for me.
  13. Read this back about 2013. I have a great appreciation for the book title. Overall, it's just a so so read. If I can remember the story rightly,,,,The highlight for me was when this guy went off the deep end one weekend and called the suicide hotline only to discover that no one answered. Not only that, it was vacant because as it turned out he was the one who was responsible. He was a part time volunteer for the suicide hotline and had forgotten to have someone cover for him this particular weekend.
  14. "The absence of joy is slow suicide"- Ocke de Boer
  15. He healed some people simply through his presence. Like the mystic Gurdjieff, there are many who dismiss the extraordinary Work of Healer, David Hawkins. In reading Power vs Force, I was hooked. Psychiatrist, Physician, Gifted Healer, Author, and communicator https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/11784.David_R_Hawkins My two favorites,,, re-read many times over
  16. Please pardon me this evening if need be. I have no idea. This fever has left me as unboundried as about any drunk could get. The good thing is, I feel free!
  17. Either way, due respect. It doesn't get anymore real than looking at a corpse. And with that corpse, a story of a life lived and broken hearts left behind.
  18. Folks mean well,,, usually But that's a whole other can of worms,,, ? ❤️?
  19. The News these days,,,, Tailored and custom spun for confusion.,,,,, Transparent manipulation for anyone with common sense to see. Too bad that there is some kind of mid-generational hiccup going on relative to what’s historically been known as ‘common sense.‘ Yes,,, I made the mistake of clicking on one of these “news” links today.,,,, From a “relative” clairvoyant perspective also spiced this evening from a medium fever, infection induced, I might ad in my best Monty Python Affectation ,,, just a mere flesh wound you know,,, well what can I say,,, Psychological T ball methods to re-entrench preprogrammed Neo-Ayn Rand stylized alt-right morons and convincing them of how smart they are in figuring it all out. Yeah,,, you know man,,, them Chinese were halfway behind this whole thing,,,,, you know,,,man Jeez,,,, Cant claim said clairvoyant capacity Is pristine, though. It’s filtered through a dirtied lens in relation to what remains in regard to my emotional purification. But still yet, In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King who at the moment is being played by the Joker. Ahemm,, I need to exit news and politics this evening anyway,,,,for the sake of my unreliable sanity, naiveté, remaining goodwill and innocence.
  20. ??‍? ? The World of the Ego by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen ?? We call it our “identity.” We call it our “personality.” We try to make it into something we consider special, and then we cling to what we have made. As if we can really make ourselves. We fashion these egos of ours, but we do not make the Self. You don’t make your Self and I don’t make mine. Think of the ego as your little self in a little body on a little planet in the middle of a huge ocean of universe. The ego is indeed the little self. It gets its feelings hurt easily. It feels threatened, and then it gets scared and angry and wants to retaliate. It gets in little power struggles. It thinks it needs approval and recognition from other little egos. It’s unsure and insecure, but it tries to act like it knows what it’s doing. And then it wants to blame everyone else for its mistakes. You do not have to rely on that little ego. By its nature, it is unreliable. Do not accept the idea that your ego is you. Do not believe that that is all you are. We are just passing through these bodies, learning and growing from our experiences here on this earth, on our way to our Higher Self. You know what you are really capable of. You know there is a real person inside of you who can love so deeply that the people you love are a part of you. You know that you can see right past their errors and shortcomings, and peer into their hearts. You know the joy this brings to you and to them. You know all this from the moments of really experiencing it. And because you can touch it and experience it for even a moment, you have the proof of who and what you really are.
  21. Another genre of 80's music. Great dancing! Reminds me of how loose half a bottle of Wild Turkey used to make me back in the day. Prince was as talented as much as Jeff Lynne is a harmonic genius.
  22. Same = Same = Same Yogananda - Ra material - Acim Yogananda said the second coming of Christ would be the widespread development/ arrival of Christ Consciousness in humanity. Christ Consciousness The projected consciousness of God immanent in all creation. In Christian scripture, the "only begotten son," the only pure reflection in creation of God the Father; in Hindu scripture, Kutastha Chaitanya or Tat, the universal consciousness, or cosmic intelligence, of Spirit everywhere present in creation. (The terms "Christ Consciousness" and "Christ Intelligence" are synonymous, as also "Cosmic Christ" and "Infinite Christ.") It is the universal consciousness, oneness with God, manifested by Jesus, Krishna, and other avatars. Great saints and yogis know it as the state of samadhi meditation wherein their consciousness has become identified with the divine intelligence in every particle of creation; they feel the entire universe as their own body. -- Read more: http://yogananda.com.au/g/g_christ_consciousness.html#top The Holy Idea which acts as a catalyzer for the transformation of this ego is Holy Love/ Divine Love. This can lead to the Virtue (energy) of Action. According to Ichazo, Divine Love is as he describes “The awareness that though the laws which govern reality are objective, they are not cold, because these cosmic laws inevitably lead to the creation of organic life, and Life itself, like all natural phenomena, fulfills a cosmic purpose. As soon as the mind’s word mechanism is destroyed, love, the natural condition of the mind, appears. Love begins the moment man contemplates the Creation and says, ‘Thank you, God.’ All men feel this somewhat, no animal can feel this at all. Man alone can know that all comes from God.” This odd quote, just above from Ichazo about the when mind's word mechanism being destroyed begins the chapter on Holy Love in my favorite book on the Enneagram. AH Almaas's Facets of Unity. Divine Love is at point nine on the Enneagram. Love is the virtue. Sloth is the passion at point nine. The mind's word mechanism being destroyed sounds like being in a state of inner quiet.