Zigzag Idiot

@DrewNows love and appreciate ya, brother man,,,

Between the both of us. Your zoo and my ship of fools, were a veritable Noah's Ark! I or maybe I should say all of us, appreciate your intelligence and sincerity, and respect you a great deal, or maybe we should say all of y'all,,,,??‍♂️??‍? Glad to see you posting,,,

Cultivating discipline and reducing self-importance I feel at times bullying oneself with carrying out dull practices can actually rob one of energy which can lead to apathy and then just giving up in working on oneself. Neo-Shamanism introduced me to the practices of 'Not doing.' I view these practices as a hole card in case you hit some serious doldrums in your Spiritual practice. Victor Sanchez, a student of Carlos Castaneda, put out a book called The Teachings of Don Carlos. He mentions that self importance is one of the most energy consuming activities in the life of someone working on themselves. One exercise that is rather extreme, is making use of a petty tyrant. So if you encounter one - how lucky you are! Classifications of Petty tyrants: Excuse the stains. I tend to treat my books rough. A little bit on the strategy that he gives in dealing with a petty tyrant- Victor Sanchez also gives some practices called -Acting for the sake of Acting, that falls under the category of overcoming self importance. My favorite is taking your dishes for a ride once a week. These practices are not for everyone. They are for those whose persona matches the qualities for being a 'Stalker'. A warrior who stalks their own weaknesses. The other practices in Neo- Shamanism are for 'Dreamers'. For these, one has to have the capacity for lucid dreaming. I remember from Castaneda's book- The Art of Dreaming, that he recommends looking for your hands in any dream as a trigger to induce lucidity in your dreamworld.

Is That Your Beach Ball? by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen Mom was feeling very stressed because, on top of all her other responsibilities, she was getting her should-be-grown daughter ready for college. Beth, her daughter, wanted a new laptop to take to college, and Mom agreed to pay for it. However, Mom also agreed to research laptops and find out what Beth supposedly needed. I asked Mom why Beth didn’t do her own research. Mom said she had tried coaxing her to do the research for herself, but Beth just kept dawdling. So Mom took up the cause, and now she was feeling the added pressure to study all about laptops. I explained to Mom that every person has a beach ball that represents their own responsibilities. These beach balls are light and colorful and easy to toss to somebody else. And most people, if given the chance, will toss their beach ball to somebody else, because then they are off the hook. If you hold onto their beach ball for them, then they don’t have to do anything and they don’t have to change. As a matter of fact, nobody can change without holding onto their own beach ball. Mom thought about it and made a healthy choice. She set Beth’s beach ball down at Beth’s feet. In other words, Mom decided to let Beth decide whether of not to pick up her own beach ball and take up her own cause.

I just made a comment in the forum from which I may draw heat. Here is some elaboration on that statement. Trump is crystallized between both the Arch Idiot and the Objectivity Hopeless Idiot which makes him a hasnamuss supreme and a petty tyrant. He's completely divorced from Ordinary Idiot which is very unfortunate. I return to Ordinary Idiot frequently and as needed to rest in 'beginners mind'. We are all the same here,,,, no one is better. 1 - The Ordinary idiot - Ordinary Idiot is always with me in my Belly Center (hara). 2 - The Super idiot 3 - The Arch idiot - 4 - The Hopeless idiot - There are 2 kinds of Hopeless Idiots. Objective and Subjective. 5 - The Compassionate idiot This is a sticking point for a lot of Green as well as those who have a 'spiritual ego'. I've paid my dues. I was a Compassionate Idiot for a long time. 6 - The Squirming idiot 7 -The Square idiot 8 -The Round idiot - When I spent time as Round Idiot, I saw and understood how my negativity was hooked into and propelled my reactive self. 9 -The Zigzag idiot - Experiences of self reflective and narrative consciousness dominate up to here. This is where the path of Knowledge ends and the path of Being begins. 10 - The Enlightened idiot - Experiences Witness Consciousness 11 - The Doubting idiot - Still has episodes of narrative Consciousness 12 - The Swaggering idiot. - This character is paradoxical. Periodically experiences the heart soaring like a hawk. 13 - The Born idiot 14 -The Patented idiot - aka Authentic Idiot 15 -The Genial idiot 16 -The Polyhedral idiot 17 - The Master idiot 18 - The Perfect idiot - aka The Realized Idiot This is as far as human beings can go. 19 - The Holy idiot 20 - The Cosmic idiot Jesus is a Cosmic Idiot 21 - The Unique idiot God is Unique Idiot

I rarely drink coffee anymore.Never really thought that would become a reality. Doing some serious fall cleaning of my house today. Had a nice fire going out back. Burned perfectly good boxes, old income tax reports, old mini blinds. I even got in a rebellious mood and burned my high school diploma. Gathered up all my old coffee cans and ended up with 5 large hefty trash bags of them. One trash sack with solely the old metal cans. Besides a collection of coffee cans, I have a collection of old cigarette lighters; about 2 shoe boxes full. A coffee can full of used up and empty chapsticks and about 2 coffee cans full of old batteries - AAA, AA, C's, D's, a few of the square nine volt batteries and a fair amount of those little round ones. That's about it other than a few unique rocks that line my porch. Oh yeah, my biggest collection is books. In the last year I've built a few book shelves which has allowed me to declutter the house quite a bit. Next, I've decided to go through my clothes. Some are 30 years old. 80's and 90's dated styles. I don't consider it a collection though. For some reason I've had a great deal of indecision about culling them through the years and it has resulted in some serious piles and stacks. I have some friends who have kids that are about my size. Whatever they don't want I'll haul to the local goodwill store. There's a nice stack of carhart work coats and coveralls with worn out zippers. I may take some of the better looking ones to someone who can sew in new zippers. This is boring stuff. I'd rather Journal about psychological issues, Actualization, human behavior, typologies, and such. In dealing with my housekeeping, I note a good deal of the Squirming Idiots presence.

This was similar to my experience but I determinedly moped my way through it. One aspect it showed me though was my discontinuity of Consciousness. It took me almost three years to finish it because if the exercises slipped my mind in the morning or for a large part of the day, I would just wait until the next day and as much as possible, carry them out as instructed.The workbook was definitely the least favorite part of the Course for me. The main text was a completely different experience. I loved it and read it through it very quick and have continued to reread it off and on. It truly inspires me to do the difficult things. Such as forgiveness instead of grudge holding. Letting go of grievances and overlooking or looking past others transgressions against myself or others. The practice of not judging or forgiveness in my opinion is the main focal point ACIM. It is such powerful thing, yet the practice of forgiveness will never be a popular teaching. IMO It does have a definite patriarchal tone which for some is just too much. It bothered me somewhat but I was able to let go of the associations and thoughts which cropped up at times. To get rid of, or reduce one's violence and negativity is terribly difficult task but has a really powerful transforming effect. It can give one an unsought new virtue or maybe an unexpected curious kind of a new power or will that's hard to explain. My friend and Teacher recommends reading 3 pages of the text along with doing one of the workbook exercises per day. Doing this makes it a one year Course. I enjoyed Gary Renard's books after I read the main text.

So true. I lived it all through my twenties with insecurities and being socially awkward with attempts to cover it over with cynicical attitudes. It's a cold place and it seems very dark and unfair. I would recommend to those in that inner condition- cultivating some form of gratitude, radical authenticity, spontaneity and light heartedness instead of doing calculated cold approaches. Especially if you're not a natural bullshiter.

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I agree. Our being attracts our life.

Welcome. It's good to have another student of the Gurdjieff work here. The movements are one aspect of the Work that I've not participated in. I would like to though sometime. I'm a Mars Essence type with a center of gravity in the instinctive moving Center. Through Cynthia Bourgeault's Work, I've come to appreciate doing sittings as well as physical sensing of the body. Feel free to visit my Journal and make comments if inclined. I'm a rogue student of the Work as well as the Almaas material. There's also a Gurdjieff thread in High Consciousness Resources.

This is a decent movie about Gurdjieff's life. It's got a bit of that 70's cheesiness in it, though,, This scene has a bit of a riddle in it. It's based actually on a book Gurdjieff wrote. The most readable Of his books IME Here also is a bit of Gurdjieff's sense of humor. Brother sez and Brother al ,,,,, The riddle concerns them.

Leo, Have you enneatyped yourself? If so, what was your conclusion? Wouldn't by chance be a type Nine? How about Essence or Endocrine-body type? I guess you to be Lunar/Venusian. ?‍♂️ The chief feature of Lunar types is said quite often to be willfulness,,, ? Also a question that's fairly woo woo,,, as if the first two weren't. If it wasn't for Faith Javane's books, I probably would never have gotten interested in numerology. I noticed your Birthdate in Pythagorean numerology reduces down to 33/6. In case you've ever dug into your numerology, any comments about that? I understand if you skip over my questions. In answering them, you'd probably catch a lot of hell over it,,, however you answered them. I'm into typologies so I had to ask. I appreciate your work.

Jean Houston has led an extraordinary life,,,

"Crystalization can happen on a right foundation or a wrong foundation"

I like that! ? It serves as a description of the state aimed at in Centering Prayer most often referred to as objectless awareness or nonconceptual awareness. IME This is what Gurdjieff was pointing to in Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson with the term 'Kundabuffer'. If we don't have a solid grounding in the body, Kundalini runs wild into our imagination which keeps people stuck in their head and emotions. It's power is so great and yet subtle, at the same time that our imaginings mix with our ego structures in the above mentioned feedback loop to form a custom reality from our own personal history. I might propose that taking note of one's own internal dialogue in general, could be viewed as strong circumstantial evidence that one is polluted by their own ego structures. Just the very fact of nonstop thinking in general or as some say, "monkey mind" points to that foreign installation that Oscar Ichazo referred to as the "word mechanism". The mind's role in Three Centered Awareness is simply to provide space or as Echart Tolle might say, spaciousness. A still, quiet mind has the quality of spaciousness. True thinking is a slow deliberate function. Much slower than the speed of emotions, which most often is what gets us all in trouble. Emotional reactivity,,, As the theory goes one's enneatype is simply a polluted form of one of the nine Holy Ideas. The ultimate meaning of the Enneagram. The following is a piece of Ichazo's description of point nine where he uses the phrase "word mechanism". Holy Love which when appears in polluted form, the personality is described as being possessed by sloth. According to Ichazo, Divine Love is “The awareness that though the laws which govern reality are objective, they are not cold, because these cosmic laws inevitably lead to the creation of organic life, and Life itself, like all natural phenomena, fulfills a cosmic purpose. As soon as the mind’s word mechanism is destroyed, love, the natural condition of the mind, appears. Love begins the moment man contemplates the Creation and says, ‘Thank you, God.’ All men feel this somewhat, no animal can feel this at all. Man alone can know that all comes from God.” Excuse me if I've gone off on an inspired tangent,,,, Seems relevant though.

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A Bad Joke by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2020 Dr. Jim Rosen I just heard a bad joke. It’s got to be a joke, because things like this don’t really happen, do they? I spoke with a woman who I’ll call Sharon. Sharon has been treated for years by a medical doctor for severe headaches caused by stress. The headaches are so severe that she has even been hospitalized for them. Stress is certainly psychological. So has her medical doctor ever recommended psychological treatment? No. It’s also relevant that Sharon was severely abused as a child, both sexually and physically, by her mother and stepfather. Did she tell her physician? Yes. Did he recommend psychological treatment then? No. Instead he responded by giving her more medication. What happened to this woman is no joke, and the need for appropriate treatment is no joke either.

ACIM quote about joy I want to record this quote I just ran across- This is how He keeps the Kingdom perfectly consistent and perfectly unified. 7 Remember, however, that what the Holy Spirit rejects the ego accepts. 8 This is because they are in fundamental disagreement about everything, being in fundamental disagreement about what you are. 9 The ego's beliefs on this crucial issue vary, and that is why it promotes different moods. 10 The Holy Spirit never varies on this point, and so the one mood He engenders is joy. 11 He protects it by rejecting everything that does not foster joy, and so He alone can keep you wholly joyous. Somewhere in ACIM it states that the only 2 authentic attitudes are either peace or joy and that all other attitudes are egoic. This is my paraphrasing and so the actual quote My be a little different in wording. The above quote kinda backs up the one I've been quoting from memory. I'm sure I'll run across it again and I'll be sure to mark it. Just watched Leo's latest video about life purpose. I've stated before that cultivating the Science of Idiotism may be my life purpose. I don't know, though. Don't seem to be cultivating it in a big way as yet. It would fall under a larger umbrella ( life purpose) of being a fairly steady student/practitioner of The Fourth Way. I've never written about the 3 lines of work in The Fourth Way because I was afraid it would be perceived as cultish. Here it is, though - First line of work - Work on oneself; I can only work and transform myself. I can't change others,,,, Second line of work- Work with others; I can possibly be of help to others in some way for them working on themselves Third line of work - Work for the Work; This would be a personal effort in passing on clean practices and information regarding the work. Possibly having a global worldview,,, Conscious circle of humanity is a phrase that's used,,,?‍♂️ Maybe I'll discover another Life purpose in the future. That's a possibility,,,

http://humanityhealing.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/The-Cerebellum-and-the-Alta-Major.pdf Its distinctly the sound of crickets that I've heard for the last 3 years.

T-6.V.C.6. You learn first that having rests on giving, and not on getting. 2 Next you learn that you learn what you teach, and that you want to learn peace. 3 This is the condition for identifying with the Kingdom, since it is the condition of the Kingdom. From - https://acourseinmiraclesnow.com/course-miracles-chapter-6-v-lessons-holy-spirit/

According to A Course In Miracles- YES! It says just that. I'm looking for an exact quote now,,,

Sacred Clowns https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyoka

I've been going over the difference between being Awakened, being Realized, and being Enlightened. According to the Almaas Material. I take the term Self Remembering, as it's used in the Fourth Way as an equivalent to these, in a sense. Also, Fulasnitamnian awareness as Gurdjieff termed 'Three Centered Awareness' in Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson. Most of my reading has been in the two links below although I ran across these 2 excerpts and decide to copy and paste them. Many Capacities are Needed to Work Through the Personality and Its Patterns First of all, you need energy, energy to work on yourself and work through the personality and its patterns. Energy is the sense that you have the capacity, the strength, the courage to do something about it, about yourself, about your life... Another factor is determination. Without determination, the energy will be meaningless. You need steadfast determination and an unwavering will to go on, to continue in the face of discouragement and disappointment. The determination is what pushes you, what makes you persist. It is important to understand the personality issues around will and determination: what the issues are that make you feel frustrated, that stop your determination, that block your will, that stop you from feeling, "yes, I will do it"... Another factor that comes into the picture is a sense of lightness about the whole thing, a sense of joyousness. It is a specific kind of joyousness, a specific kind of lightness, a specific kind of the light. The delight and the joyfulness are the actual work itself. It is a delight in the truth, delight in seeing and experiencing the truth. It is a little like curiosity -- a joyful curiosity about things... The next factor needed to prepare ourselves for the perception of the experience of liberation is that of compassionate kindness. It is a very important necessary quality. You need kindness for yourself because the process is difficult. Since you're not liberated, it is natural that you will suffer, so why push yourself in a way that you'll suffer more? Why beat yourself up if you make a mistake? The factor of kindness also brings a quality of trust in yourself, trust in the process, a kind of trust in your mind, in your Essence... Another factor necessary in this work is peacefulness: the ability to be silent, the capacity to be still, not always in activity and noise. Stillness of the mind. In order to recognize true liberation you must have this capacity for stillness or peacefulness because liberation is so fleeting... The next factor which is needed is the capacity to be absorbed in something, to be totally absorbed with whatever you are doing, in whatever state happens to be there. You become so one-pointed in your experience that you become completely involved in it, and so involved that you are dissolved in it. This is a certain kind of relationship to experience, a certain capacity, a certain freedom from the personality... The seventh and last factor of liberation is awakening, the capacity to be awake in your experience. We talked about the capacity to be absorbed in your experience; there is also the capacity to actually be awake, to be aware. You are so aware that you feel as if you have just awakened. There is a feeling of light all around you. Diamond Heart Book Two, pg. 5 Endless Realization Our potential is infinite, inexhaustible; hence there is always realization after any realization. You'll have all kinds of experiences, states, and conditions that may feel like an ultimate state of realization, but then that too keeps changing. In my understanding, the truest state of realization is that in which whenever you realize something, no matter what it is, you go beyond it. The moment you say this is it, you will get stuck with a concept, and tomorrow there will be something else. So the true state of realization is more of a lack of attachment to realization. Diamond Heart Book Five, pg. 78 Excerpts about enlightenment- https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enlightenment Excerpts about realization - https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/realization