Zigzag Idiot

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  1. Greenskeepers got me tickled ,,,,
  2. In a recent video Leo repeated an axiom that I’ve heard by Physician Maurice Nicoll (Fourth Way) and Ken Wilber as well. It goes - “Those that are higher in consciousness can see the lower in consciousness but the lower cannot see the higher.” I see this evidenced in Spiral Dynamics,,,,,
  3. In Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda quoted his guru Sri Yukteswar concerning astral beings in chapter 18 and also chapter 43. How and where they exist and what happens in their existence. He described “ Man as an individualized soul is essentially causal bodied. He mentions that the body is a matrix of 35 ideas required by God as the basic or causal thought forces from which he later formed the subtle astral body of 19 elements and the gross physical body of 16 elements. He talks about the causal body as well and the process for becoming eternal. This aligns with Gurdjieff’s assertion that we’re not born with eternal souls as a given. We come to earth with our soul in an embryonic condition. There are requirements for the astral realm and then more requirements for the causal realm. I discovered Autobiograpy of a Yogi on YouTube yesterday and started listening to it. I ran across notes in the back of the book I had made which led me again to the above mentioned astral existence as stated by Sri Yukteswar.
  4. One time I thought someone was interested in me. I was surprised because they were young, beautiful, and educated. I’m none of those. I thought they were out of my league to be honest and I told them so. But I continued to get mixed messages. Having never been really adept at taking social cues I waffled for a while then decided to ask them bluntly. She said no, it’s not you. It’s someone else. I said, Oh, okay.
  5. I agree with those who say there is no end. A part of the path is the path of knowledge which eventually becomes the path of being. I would equate this place where it transitions as the threshold between tier one and tier to incorporate Spiral Dynamics ,,,, Doing the Work means integration and individuation which requires dissolving one’s shadow which is made up of psychological blind spots and areas of ignorance where we think we know but don’t and so stay closed down and not open and receptive. Purification of our emotions is often difficult and usually takes a bit of time. Doing this work increases consciousness which equates with a higher degree of being. With a higher degree of being comes understanding. Through this understanding we find peace and are then capable of real Love.
  6. The interpretation that the second coming of Christ will be when the level/state of Christ Consciousness begins to sweep through the earthly population. This makes the most sense to me. Yogananda said, "In titling this work The Second Coming of Christ, I am not referring to a literal return of Jesus to earth. He came two thousand years ago and, after imparting a universal path to God's kingdom, was crucified and resurrected; his reappearance to the masses now is not necessary for the fulfillment of his teachings. What is necessary is for the cosmic wisdom and divine perception of Jesus to speak again through each one's own experience and understanding of the infinite Christ Consciousness that was incarnate in Jesus. That will be his true Second Coming." From Jim Marion’s book -Putting on the Mind of Christ
  7. It takes the power of the red energy ?to successfully travel the path. Don’t feel guilty or bad about it. Try to channel it for useful purposes on your path. Sometimes we have to tell the inner critic as well as those who would manipulate us through shame or guilt to go eat shit and die. ? The Red Latifa Enables Defense Against the Superego Is relatively easy to see that much of our opaqueness, much of our lack of openness, much of our stuckness, is due to the attacks of the superego – ours and other people’s. These are the criticisms, the putdowns, the comparisons, the judgments, the devaluations, the blaming, the shaming, the rejection, and the hatred that the superego levels at you in all kinds of situations. Here the Red latifa can specifically be used in the service of inquiry, by giving us the strength to defend against the superego. Spacecruiser Inquiry, pg. 279 From https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/red-latifa plus 3 other excerpts to be found. The Fullness of the Red Essence Arises in Many Flavors to Support the Openness of Our Inquiry The courage of the Red latifa is what we need in all these situations. This willingness to feel our fear and continue our inquiry appears as a natural resilience—nothing strange or unusual, just a natural sense of how we can experience ourselves. This strength that we feel in our hearts infuses the soul with a boldness that allows her to be open to seeing things she has never seen before—even things she considers to be threatening or terrifying. From this perspective, you can see that self-realization or spiritual maturity is not for the squeamish, and not for the dilettante. You need to be serious about the journey in the sense of being willing to risk your life for it. If you’re going to complain or retreat every time something difficult happens to you along the way, then you are interested in something else; you’re not a true spiritual inquirer. The path of inquiry is a path of challenge and adventure always leading us into the unknown. Such is the fullness of the Red Essence that it arises in many flavors to support the openness of our inquiry: strength, energy, expansion, and the capacities to discriminate and confront our experience as we discover what is true. When this fullness of flavors fills our heart, it gives us the courage to welcome whatever the adventure of life brings us. Spacecruiser Inquiry, pg. 283 From https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/red-essenceaspect and more to be found if your curious.
  8. To put things in context,,, only 2:28 in length A bit of redundancy below but some additional things worthy of considering,,,, 4:06 EMOTIONAL CENTRE WORK “Work on being, in regard to the Emotional Centre, demands therefore, among other things, efforts to observe and realize the existence of these emotions in oneself, noticing their origin, and the course they take, and the effects they give rise to. When we are properly con- scious of something in ourselves, we are on the way to changing it.” V. 1, p. 152 EMOTIONAL CENTRE WORK II “It is a good thing to observe the state of one’s Emotional Centre, to observe it in action—i.e., to observe how it mechanically reacts to external events and particularly other people. Here lies a great task, which is really a life task.” V. 3, p. 911 NEGATIVE EMOTIONS I “Negative emotions govern the world. They are extremely infectious. One man can make a thousand negative. One negative person can turn a house into a hell. This ability to affect others gives the negative person a sense of power...A discipline is needed in regard to negative emotions. It must begin with self-observation. You must know and acknowledge when you are negative. People will not do this...It is necessary to find and invent every method you can to prevent recurring events from making you negative.” V. 5, pp. 1709-10 NEGATIVE EMOTIONS II “Other emotions become dull, compared with the curious delights of being negative, such as planning revenges...Does a negative emo- tion give some kind of similar solace as does a drug? Could the world really do without its negative emotions? I do not think so myself. But in the Work we have to learn to do so...It is always worth while observing and tracing the subtle action of negative emotions in you. They are the source of so many things you do which you think you are doing for some other reason.” V. 5, pp. 1675-6 NEGATIVE EMOTIONS III “To let in without resistance and add fuel to and enjoy one’s negative emotions is to miss the mark that the Work has in view. It is to sin against the Work because the Work teaches that negative emotions prevent awakening.” V. 5, p. 1705 NEGATIVE EMOTIONS IV “It is possible gradually to free oneself from these unnecessary negative emotions...He need never be at a loss, whatever his circumstances, for he will always know what he has to do in any situation—that is, not to express negative emotions, and then, to separate from them, and finally not to have them at all.” V. 3, pp. 911-2 NEGATIVE EMOTIONS V “All progress in emotional development is marked by a dislike of former emotions. The emotion, the feeling of dislike of jealousy (for example), the joy of being free from it and its evil prison-house, can become strong enough to master it. For you know that one emotion can only be conquered by another and stronger emotion. By itself the Intellectual Centre cannot do this. Reasoning may help, but it is not enough.” V. 4, p. 1499 TRANSFORMATION OF NEGATIVE EMOTIONS “The observation of our negative states and the separation from them is one of the most important sides of practical work. The transforma- tion of negative emotions belongs to the Second Conscious Shock and here the whole Work comes in and the whole evaluation of it. You may be negative but you must feel that it is not you that is negative but It. This is the beginning of inner separation, of not identifying with negative states, of not identifying with oneself.” V. 2, p. 530 OBSERVING NEGATIVE ‘I’S “In the Work, the enjoyment of negative states must be observed sincerely, especially the secret enjoyment of them. The reason is that if a man enjoys being negative, in whatever forms, and they are legion, he can never separate from them. You cannot separate yourself from what you have a secret affection for.” V. 1, p. 214 WATCHING REACTIONS “Once you have realized that this reaction of yours is quite typical, and you have always had complaints in exactly the same way, it will give you a shock. It will startle you. You will see that it is this complaining itself that you have to notice in yourself and not what you imagine causes it. Next time that these complaining ‘I’s begin to resume their customary activity, the shock that you had may just be able to give you the emotional force to observe them before they start using your mouth, in your name. You will have the shock of remem- bering yourself.” V. 2, p. 449 From Maurice Nicoll’s Psychological Commentary’s I consider this as a part of Shadow work. It’s also called by some purification of the emotional center. It’s not that much about morals but very much related to conscience. Can you imagine not taking anything in a negative way by way of understanding?
  9. The Mastery of Love by Don Miguel Ruiz This is an easy, quick, enjoyable, read. It’s been several years since I read it. Actually I reread it 3 or 4 times. Also, A Course in Miracles if you’re not turned off by Christianity. Although very patriarchal in its wording. It is definitely not dogmatic or anything resembling fundamentalism. Long story short. A psychologist somewhat reluctantly channels Jesus Christ in the late 60’s for 5 or 6 years and of course writes it all down. It mirrors the New Testament in a number of ways. Makes use of modern language though, Such as the use of the word ‘ego’ and is quite abstract in general. There are several websites where you can read it for free online. I did a search using just the word Love on this ACIM website and got 1594 results from the text. Below is one of the results from the beginning of the text. https://acim.org/acim/text/introduction/en/s/51?wid=search&fwv=true&q=Love ⁶The course does not aim at teaching the meaning of love, for that is beyond what can be taught. ⁷It does aim, however, at removing the blocks to the awareness of love’s presence, which is your natural inheritance. ⁸The opposite of love is fear, but what is all-encompassing can have no opposite. (ACIM, T-in.1:6-8)
  10. In the above post where I expressed “mean people suck”. Well,,, I realized this morning that it was a form of expressing negative emotion. I think it’s possible to state that and it not be an expression of negative emotion. I think maybe it’s the felt experience inside oneself as it’s being said that defines whether or not it is an expression of negative emotion.
  11. Mean people suck. Mean people suck. Mean people suck
  12. Descriptive of the formatory apparatus. Mechanical thought by association - defines the thinking process by those who are ‘asleep’. https://digitalseance.wordpress.com/category/gurdjieff/ Deeper into the Work this is laid out for pondering,,,,,, The Jack of Diamonds is the very symbol of the formatory apparatus. The mechanical part of the intellectual center Jacks are the mechanical part of the functions.
  13. There’s probably helpful insights to be gleaned from these YouTube’s but I’m curious why this sits in High Consciousness Resources,,,?
  14. Circumstantial evidence that the vast majority of the U.S. population is fast asleep in the American dream.
  15. @tsuki I like how you’re learning about and opening up the enneagram in ways that I never have. Biospheres symbiosis is a specific term I never encountered. Doing a google search and encountering a website containing many Forth Way concepts. It felt very synchronic to see on that webpage also a link to Jana Dixon’s Biology of Kundalini, http://biologyofkundalini.com/ After pondering a little more I wanted to equate Biospheric symbiosis with Gurdjieff’s descriptive term “Iraniranumange” from his book Beelzebub’s Tales to his Grandson. https://ae.gurdjieff.org.gr/terms/en50/0290.htm I appreciate you providing all this food for thought and hope my intellect is up to the task of interpreting and stepping down the information in the post you just made about the 64 hexagrams of the I CHING.
  16. The Real Stuff Blossoms From Within by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen It can be easy to confuse an inflated ego with real self-esteem. The real stuff grows from inside yourself, and not from trying to be something that you aren't. The real stuff evolves more from your own approval than from the approval of others. If you believe that you are a good anything because other people think you are, then you tend to guide your life by false assumptions. External approval indicates that you have pleased other people; it doesn't necessarily mean you have done the right thing or the quality thing or the thing that makes you feel good about yourself. Sometimes you have to do things that can bring disapproval in order to please yourself, in order to walk the path that’s right for you. When your self-esteem is real, you can manifest good feelings about your own worth as a person. Praise and criticism from others do not put demands on you. Instead, you step back and listen to praise and criticism for the feedback, for the information that is being offered. You’re not afraid to learn; you’re not afraid to change. You can accept yourself as a good human being with flaws, and you recognize that we all have flaws.
  17. I appreciate the version of the I CHING , The Oracle of the Cosmic Way in its assessment on the notion of guilt. The collective ego is mentioned above but just as important IMO is dealing with one’s superego. More or less the internalized voice of one’s parents. Some good excerpts about superego in the following link. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/superego
  18. Exactly @Waken In addition to being forgiving towards others another main idea conveyed in A Course In Miracles is what you just wrote. What some call dissociation. I did a search on an ACIM site and pasted the results below for anyone who may be interested. ⬤T-4.VI Your other life has continued without interruption, and has been and always will be totally unaffected by your attempts to dissociate it. ⬤T-4.VI The separated mind cannot maintain the separation except by dissociating. ⬤T-4.VI You do not recognize them now, but what has been dissociated is still there. ⬤T-5.II His is the glory before which dissociation falls away, and the Kingdom of Heaven breaks through into its own. ⬤T-5.III He may have dissociated the Call for God, just as you have. ⬤T-5.III This dissociation is healed in both of you as you become aware of the Call for God in him, and thus acknowledge Its being. ⬤T-6.II Exclusion and separation are synonymous, as are separation and dissociation. ⬤T-6.II We have said before that the separation was and is dissociation, and that once it occurs projection becomes its main defense, or the device that keeps it going. ⬤T-6.III By teaching peace you must learn it yourself, because you cannot teach what you still dissociate. ⬤T-6.V-B These insane ideas are clearly the result of dissociation and projection. ⬤T-7.V Fear produces dissociation, because it induces separation. ⬤T-7.VI If you dissociate your mind from it you are perceiving the most powerful force in the universe as if it were weak, because you do not believe you are part of it. ⬤T-8.IV It does this simply by dissociating itself from everything. ⬤T-8.V Dissociation is not a solution; it is a delusion. ⬤T-9.VI If it is in you and can produce joy, and if you see that it does produce joy in others, you must be dissociating it in yourself. ⬤T-9.VI Therefore you can create as He did, and your dissociation will not alter this. ⬤T-10.II Unless you first know something you cannot dissociate it. ⬤T-10.II Knowledge must precede dissociation, so that dissociation is nothing more than a decision to forget. ⬤T-10.II What has been forgotten then appears to be fearful, but only because the dissociation is an attack on truth. ⬤T-10.II And you have replaced your knowledge by an awareness of dreams because you are afraid of your dissociation, not of what you have dissociated. ⬤T-10.II When what you have dissociated is accepted, it ceases to be fearful. ⬤T-10.II Yet to give up the dissociation of reality brings more than merely lack of fear. ⬤T-12.VII This leads directly to dissociation, for it represents the acceptance of two goals, each perceived in a different place; separated from each other because you made them different. ⬤T-14.VII You will realize that salvation must come to you this way, if you consider what dissociation is. ⬤T-14.VII Dissociation is a distorted process of thinking whereby two systems of belief which cannot coexist are both maintained. ⬤T-15.I Again the ego tries, and all too frequently succeeds, in doing both, by using dissociation for holding its contradictory aims together so that they seem to be reconciled. ⬤T-19.IV-D Here is your promise never to allow union to call you out of separation; the great amnesia in which the memory of God seems quite forgotten; the cleavage of your Self from you;--the fear of God, the final step in your dissociation. ⬤T-21.V Yet any part of knowledge threatens dissociation as much as all of it. ⬤W-96 Dissociated from its function now, it thinks it is alone and separate, attacked by armies massed against itself and hiding in the body’s frail support. (acim.org/acim/chapter-15/the-holy-instant-and-special-relationships/en/s/194) Taken From - https://acim.org/acim/chapter-4/the-rewards-of-god/en/s/85?wid=search&q=Dissociation
  19. The method of inquiry in the Diamond Approach involves sitting with states of deficient emptiness. To completely allow them and even with whatever curiosity one can muster, delve into the core of these emotionally difficult states. In doing so, it’s often found that the cause of these “holes” are revealed. This revelation is accompanied by a healing of a split off part of one’s essence. An undoing of the fracture IS the healing in which an ego structure was covering up an aspect of one’s essence. It’s slow gradual work healing ‘one hole of deficient emptiness’ at a time. I’ve paraphrased the process. If you’re interested, the link below will be to a web page with more precise excerpts of this methodology. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/theory-holes
  20. The second force (aka denying or passive force) in the Law of Three as described by Gurdjieff seems to fit as a possibility in this topic, perhaps. Teachers of The Fourth Way often stress that this second or denying force is not necessarily bad or to be seen strictly as negative. An I axiom of this Law states that going against second force only makes it stronger. As in “That which you resist, persists”. For instance, those who struggle with an addiction get a taste of this phenomena. ////////////////////////////////////////// The Law of Three is described by Gurdjieff as "the second fundamental cosmic law". This law states that every whole phenomenon is composed of three separate sources, which are Active, Passive and Reconciling or Neutral. This law applies to everything in the universe and humanity, as well as all the structures and processes. The Three Centers in a human, which Gurdjieff said were the Intellectual Centre, the Emotional Centre and the Moving Centre, are an expression of the law of three. Gurdjieff taught his students to think of the law of three forces as essential to transforming the energy of the human being. The process of transformation requires the three actions of affirmation, denial and reconciliation. This law of three separate sources can be considered modern interpretation of early hindu Philosophy of Gunas, We can see this as Chapters 3, 7, 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Bhagavad Gita discuss Guna in their verses. [25] How the Law of Seven and Law of Three function together is said to be illustrated on the Fourth Way Enneagram, a nine-pointed symbol which is the central glyph of Gurdjieff's system. Taken from- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
  21. As far as inanimate perspectives go. Through realized being and non-local consciousness it’s possible to know what it’s like to be a tire on the front of a car going 70 mph on a curvy paved road in the summertime. Or maybe a rock on the side of a mountain. There are fewer prepositional phrases that way.
  22. I’ve written in my journal sporadically about this issue. Well, it may be on the periphery and informed by a Fourth Way perspective. I feel creative in expressing sometimes. The following are some entries from my journal. Some of which I don’t recall writing but I’ve enjoyed rereading them and through a search, gathering them together for this post. There is a little bit of redundancy between them. We’re two natured beings. Part animal and part angel. Neither one being complete. In the beginning when we think we know we need to recognize that we’re upside down and the certainty of our views need to be reassessed. We become completed beings through solar coating. Our own conscious efforts. We can become wise through lunar coating but to become Self Realized we must undergo through our own conscious efforts, solar coating. Solar Coating polishes off the angelic part of us. In becoming right side up the ego is metabolized by essence with the angel at the helm. Essential realization is just one of many phenomena that’s possible. If you start crying that’s fairly normal. Along with a recognition of a new vividness in perception. We’re two natured beings. Having a planetary body and also an energy or astral body. It is said that Feelings are the blood of the astral body I like the description that when we are thinking dominated, we radiate from the head and when our centers are balanced, we emanate from the heart center. I’ve made peace with being especially dense from time to time on certain days. Years ago this caused me a lot of insecurity and further confusion. Through understanding, I was able to let most of that just go. Maybe it was the other way around? I let it go and then achieved some understanding. I don’t know. Understanding comes about through beginners mind and maybe vice versa.,,,? When the emotional center is purified and we are free from guilt and also don’t overthink everything, we perceive accurately with our feelings. Feelings become intuition and eventually become clairvoyance. The energetic (astral) body as well as our planetary bodies have signature vibrations. Almaas describes us as fields of impressionability. For me, this aligns with Conscience being defined as the intelligence of the universe The difference between uncontrolled imagination and creative imagination. The way I understand it, purification of the emotional center is the key between creative imagination in Causal realm manifesting and magical thinking run amuck in our uncontrolled thoughts and day dreams produced by undisciplined 'monkey mind'. W e"re two natured beings. The kedsjan (Astral) and the energy body in which the physical body dominates with its own wants and desires. As Terence Mekenna says "We are angels who have a Siamese twin who is a monkey growing out of our chest." Purifying the emotional center gives the Astral body the capacity to be able to boss around the physical body with the 3 lower chakras sometimes referred to in the Work as the Automaton. "This is the difference between us and the angels. Angels are perfectly made and, therefore, naive and stupid; they can only do what they are made for. Humans have many more possibilities. There is more joy in heaven for one perfected human being than for a thousand angels." - Ocke de Boer
  23. I rarely watch or listen to the news anymore. That’s one reason I didn’t hear about the death of ZZ Top Bassist, Dusty Hill, a few days ago. Billy Gibbons plays lead and sings. Frank Beard plays drums. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Hill Billy Gibbons confirmed that ZZ Top would continue with Elwood Francis, the band's longtime guitar tech, on bass, per Hill's wishes.[22] According to Gibbons, "Dusty emphatically grabbed my arm and said, 'Give Elwood the bottom end, and take it to the Top.' He meant it, amigo. He really did."[22] - From Wikipedia