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About Conscience from an Egyptian Sufi named Dzoû’l Noûn, who lived in the 12th century: “All men are dead, except those who know. All those who know are dead, except those who practice. All those who practice are dead, except those who act. All those who act are lost, except those who act with righteous intent. And those who act with righteous intent, are all in grave danger.”
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I'm an Idiot. That's why I try out the maps and hypothesis of great thinkers and mystics and who have came before me. Like Claudio Naranjo. And others. The more the better. And this has nothing to do with belief but understanding and verifying everything for oneself through Inquiry and discriminating awareness. His most recent book (2010), Healing Civilization: Bringing Personal Transformation into the Societal Realm through Education and the Integration of the Intra-Psychic Family, is both a continuation of and a turning point in Naranjo's lifelong work. For in this book, which has a foreword by Jean Houston, Naranjo explores what he sees as the root cause of the destruction of human civilization (as evidenced in the 2000s (decade) as war, violence, oppression of women, child abuse, environmental endangerment, etc.)—patriarchy—and brings both the problem and the solution home to an intra-psychic level. Patriarchy, he says, has taken root over millennia in the workings of our own conditioned minds.[citation needed] He also offers a remedy, which derives from the work of Tótila Albert regarding the "triune" being of our nature: the "Inner Father" (corresponding to the head), the "Inner Mother" (corresponding to the heart), and the "Inner Child" (corresponding to the instincts). As people learn to integrate these three "brains", Naranjo believes, they may bring about a functional, even divine, family within. And this, he believes, in addition to transforming education oriented to personal and collective evolution, could bring about the healing of civilization.[citation needed] In the Watkins' Mind Body Spirit Magazine he was listed as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People of 2012.[7] From Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Naranjo Claudio Naranjo was one of A.H. Almaas's Teachers. Stabilizing the Realization of Presence I am clarifying the relationship between our central practices of inquiry and nondoing from the perspective of totality. How do we practice nondoing? Isn't that doing something? How can inquiring be nondoing? Exploring the paradox of nondoing brings us closer to how reality actually works. Nondoing supports the practice of inquiry by emphasizing beingness, presence, and noninterference. Inquiry develops the discriminating intelligence of Being and integrates that into our process. At some point, our inquiry can engage our process without interfering with our experience, and our nondoing can attain the dynamic intelligence of Being in service of discerning what is true. The practice of inquiry is actively engaged because we are engaged with life. We are living and we are active, and part of our living is the engaged practice of inquiry. Inquiry doesn’t mean that we are always asking ourselves questions. It doesn’t mean that we are always sitting around thinking. Inquiry is the natural and spontaneous flow of our interest in life. When something is not understood, a spontaneous movement and inquiry arises that may not even be formulated as a question. All we know is that something is not understood and, after a while, there is a revelation or a further discernment. The stillness and quietness of our concentration practice helps stabilize the condition of nondoing, which is the base of the practice of inquiry. Concentration and nondoing support and stabilize the realization of presence, the realization of true nature. Inquiry helps to discriminate and integrate this realization as well as to develop it and open it to further possibilities, which are partly a response to our life and its circumstances. Runaway Realization, pg. 135
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My Meditation practice (Centering Prayer) you could almost say uses a mantra in reverse. One ponders and chooses a one or two syllable word for this purpose. During meditation, when you catch yourself thinking,,,, bring in the word. Said internally with intention of being an open empty vessel, stillness can come back in. It's a really simple process for building longer durations of objectless awareness or non conceptual awareness. Sometimes I look at cultivating and experiencing objectless awareness as a medicine for being in the world. Arriving at objectless awareness either through Zazen or Centering Prayer produces the same result ,doesn't it? This same capacity strenthens the ability to stay in witness Consciousness more when out among the unexpected occasions and stresses in the world. Or it seems that way to me.
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One thing I didn't mention in my mini book report that buried in Beelzebub's Tales To His Grandson is the notion that the Earth is a conscious being that has an Astral body. Its a shame if we don't utilize our chakras/energy centers to Actualize our potentials. If Earth is a Being, I guess we are like Cosmic dog ticks.
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I read everyone's Journal and of all the one's I most appreciate, have only chimed in on a few. For different reasons. I appreciate everyone that shares who are fighting the fight or engaging the challenge, whatever it might be. Red Hawk is an inspiration in working on myself because of his brutal honesty. Carl Jung once said that "we should let people see us in just our undershirt". Red Hawk really embodies that spirit. He has studied the Gurdjieff Work all his life. He has written two excellent books about Inquiry; SELF OBSERVATION- the awakening of conscience- an owners manual and SELF REMEMBERING THE PATH TO NON-JUDGEMENTAL LOVE. He has followed and studied with different spiritual Teachers over the years such as Osho, Lee Losowick and Yogi Ramasuratkumar. He is also a renowned Poet. It is very difficult to see any spiritual egotism in this guy. Especially after reading his books about Inquiry. He outs himself in ways that are sometimes shocking. In doing so, he has helped me to become more honest with myself regarding my own bullshit. Another one of his poems: Red Hawk Is Not An Indian Name The great disease of the human spirit is possession. We believe we can own everything: our children, our lovers, our lives, the Earth. The fact is that we own almost nothing but The Earth owns us. That does not stop us From making absurd claims. The Indians once understood the trap of ownership, but now are not exempt from the common madness. Some of them make a big deal of my name, Saying it is an Indian name so i have no right to it; it is not an Indian name, it is an Earth Name, it belongs to the Earth. One time i was invited to a Sweat Lodge ceremony with some Young Indians who thought the Sweat Lodge belonged to them. They had all done prison time and believed they were real bad asses so they decided to turn up the heat in the Lodge and smoke out the white boy. They turned it up all the way and pretty soon they were falling out of the Lodge, until all who remained were the man pouring the water and me; and we sat there and cooked. You can't fool the Sweat Lodge. It reveals everything, courage and stupidity alike. Courage comes from the Earth; stupidity is the only thing We can honestly claim as our own.
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Being a Human Being and Still Being the Absolute The development of consciousness has to do with living in this life from the perspective of the Absolute. The Personal Essence, the Pearl Beyond Price, has to do with being a human being and still being the Absolute. If you’re just the Absolute, you are not a human being. But you live in this world, you have a physical body and a mind, you have work and relationships. You need the Personal Essence in order to be able to live personally as a human being and still be the Absolute. So the development of the personal aspect has to do with integrating all of these things that are important for our life into the various levels of consciousness, and then into the Absolute. This is an actual process that has to do with the metabolism of the Absolute into the Personal Essence. Although it is rarely mentioned in spiritual literature, the integration of the person into the Absolute is vital because we live in the world and not in a monastery or cave. Integrating the person into the Absolute is more difficult than experiencing the Absolute. Integration requires that you deal with and metabolize your unconscious and your personal history. You have to really let all of the unconscious come out, to face all of your specific issues and areas of conflict and ignorance. Many traditions don’t care about integration but strive only to reach the Absolute. They don’t care about the personal life. The point for them is to know the Absolute and leave. In other traditions, and in our work, the point is to know the Absolute and live in the world as an expression of it. So how can you live a human life from the perspective of absence? That is the realm of development, change, and transformation within consciousness. The Pearl is the Actualized Individuation of Your Soul When you are who you are, when you are just precisely yourself, you are your “point.” Just that. This has nothing to do with any qualities, functions, capacities, and skills you may have. It has nothing to do with your status in the world, and nothing to do with living this life in a body or not in a body. It is your nature. The Pearl Beyond Price is the connection between this genuine center and all the capacities, skills, and understanding that are a part of your growth as a human being. It allows your capacities, functions and accomplishments to develop in a genuine way as an outgrowth of your spontaneous unfoldment. It is the result of living in the moment, living in a way that is true to who you are. This is your genuine personal life, your own development, your own growth. The pearl is the actualized individuation of your Soul. So the personal essence is connected with your unique function, your unique work in this life. To actualize your particular unique work in this life means to be your personal essence. It is the essence of all that you have developed and integrated in your soul as you live a real life. Everyone is born with the true self, with the point. Although we feel that the point is unique in each of us, the quality of the point is universal. Then how do people become so different in their personal lives? This is due to the particular development of their personal essence.
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Baby brother thinks too much. His older Sister Inner considering is always jumping to conclusions like thier older sister projection. The children of Violence grow more insane the older they get.
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Another one from Red Hawk's book - Wreckage With a Beating Heart. The Weeping of Women is the Only Dharma We Need No mother ever profited from War only men profit, women weep. That alone is enough to condemn the enterprise; what makes women weep is not worth the doing. There are far worse ways for a man to plan the course of his actions and the directions of his life than to avoid at all costs that which causes women to weep. I have caused women to weep. My Mother wept at my cruel treatment of her, my lovers wept repeatedly when one by one i turned my back on them, the mother of my children wept at my insensitivity and my daughters wept, oh merciful Lord, oh shameful fool, how my daughters wept at my ignorance, my sore disgrace. The tears of women have brought me to my knees and blessed my heart in their sweet forgiveness, they have bathed my heart in their tears and dried it with their hair, breathed upon it and made it live; what makes women weep is not worth the doing.
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Completely Being the Essential Identity As ego activity diminishes, it becomes easier to stay with and experience fully the selfless openness of the black space. The student can tolerate the absence of the familiar self with little difficulty and may even appreciate this absence. This sets the stage for the manifestation of the Essential Identity. The black space appears as the night sky where the Essential Identity may arise as a brilliant star in the pure darkness. A brilliant point of presence and awareness takes form in the endlessness of space, with the inner recognition: “I am here now.” The student feels specifically present, as a singularity of presence, totally autonomous from all images, representations, or concepts of self. There is a new element in the experience: The sense of authentic identity is present, and it is experienced as oneself. One does not experience it, one is it. This development takes one to a new dimension of experience, as if one is experiencing things from the other side. When one is completely being the Essential Identity, the experience no longer takes the form of being or seeing a point of light. The sense of size disappears, even the feeling of identity disappears. Self-realization becomes a matter of being, purely being, with an increasing understanding of what this means. There is a sense of simplicity and innocence, of just simply being. It is not a matter of being oneself and knowing this by reflecting on the experience of oneself. There is no reflection on the state, no desire to analyze it. There is a sense of being alone, without the concept or feeling of aloneness. The Point of Existence, pg. 345 In this book he references several developmental research psychologists whose work was insightful into his Inquiry and unfolding of a resolution between the shadow materials of Inquiry and the experience of the Essential Identity.
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Reminded me of: Enneagram of Holy Ideas I'm the Johnny Appleseed of A.H. Almaas Glossary excerpts.
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Science of Idiotism Elements of each Idiot will be added to as time goes on in bits and pieces. Because it is an unfolding, revisions will become likely in process. So everything in the beginning is partially partial. This is born out of the Ordinary Idiots approach to getting ready to begin to become organized in order to get started in preparation for the beginning of proceeding to initiate a starting place from which to go ahead and go. The aim is to add to existing knowledge of the Science of Idiotism. If anyone has Bruno Martins book The Realized Idiot and is sincerely interested, help is welcome. But for now, please no questions or critical analysis on this topic. Body 1 - The Ordinary idiot - is in a continuous state of not knowing what he's going to do next. They experience Being but don't even know it. Heart 2 - The Super idiot -is a wild Idiot with momentum towards possibly becoming a Zen devil. Super Idiots have the tendency to immediately assume they are Realized Beings the very moment in which they have a partial conceptual understanding of Realization of being. They can become mired in being self satisfied. Mind. 3 - The Arch idiot - one aspect of Arch Idiot is like a kid who grows their vocabulary through medium effort and notices others annoyance yet accelerates precocious articulation. Arch Idiots seek out Zen devils in order to become one of their 1st Lieutenant's. They can be in an awful position of experiencing Being only conceptually and are yet unable to realize practical realizations. They choose to ride on a Zen devils coat tails because they are smart enough to know how to do so. But this is a loop tape stage of limited knowledge of limited Reason until they able thru Inquiry to shed light on their spiritual Cul de sac. Body 4 - Hopeless Idiot Heart 5 - Compassionate Idiot Mind 6 - Squirming Idiot Body 7 - Square Idiot is sometimes not an Idiot when he stops at the corners. Heart 8 - Round Idiot is back to being an Idiot all the time. Mind 9 - Zigzag Idiot Body 10 - Enlightened Idiot has commonality with Ordinary, Hopeless, and Square Idiots. Heart 15 - Genial Idiot Has qualities of a non violent psychopath.
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I experience this too. More so in my hands. Thank you for sharing. I enjoy reading your Journal.
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You can verify this on your own. I waded through all that law of seven bull crap and brought this out to offer for free. It's relevant here because every element involved in ones attempts at practices with definite goals are given a closer look here, than in ordinary life. Here it is. Start a new ascending Octave with a passive Do. As in Homer Simpson pronunciation of Doh. The Do of the musical scale. Everytime in life that I tried turning over a new leaf and let everyone know about with big fanfare. My big plans would almost immediately fall apart. That's an active Do. Are you having recognition already? This is something you already know, subconsciously and a lot of naturally wise people will have Conscious awareness of, no doubt. Putting this stuff together felt more like Remembering than learning. It came to my mind very quick how a lot of the 'under the radar' work on self or Inquiry has been the most fruitful. So the next time you make a new attempt at breaking a habit, maybe begin it under the radar. I'm not saying a Journal should not be kept but the metaphysical pointers are just saying to start off 'low key'. No Jericho trumpets in crescendo. That is if your unsure and want to give this a try. Naturally there will be some who see nothing in this and dismiss it. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not defending anything. One other thing about the law of Seven or law of Octave. Between Sol and La, a 'Conscious shock' is needed. If you can determine when that occurs on the path of unfoldment of your aim. Your odds for success will increase in your favor. In a lot of aims, this application of timing will be during a period that the metaphor of doldrums would apply. This is a lot tougher proposition than simply starting an endeavor with a passive Do. Simple questions or Comments are welcome.
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There is a disconnect between Orange and Green SD levels which came to me as this. Scientism juxtaposed to Do-gooderism
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Hi Paul! Not at all. My parents were basically just kids themselves when I was little. They had become disillusioned with all of it by the time I was around 15-16 years old. I was old enough to go hunting and trapping on my own by then and I was using that as an excuse to miss Church as often As I thought I could get away with it. They quit going when they saw how I felt about it. They were never preachy about it and allowed me to reach my own conclusions. I'll send you a message. Ken Carey was living an hour east of Branson working for an Amish carpenter when he wrote this book a few years ago. It's a very right brained abstract kind of book. Basically you could call it channeled material. It had a big impact on me.
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That's one of my favorite prayers. Appropriate for all Universal heretics. I'm weird too. ? Thanks for the link!
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MBTI - ISFJ
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Zigzag Idiot replied to nistake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Early in my Inquiry, I had no community at all. No friends doing Self observation other than 1 email friend. I would forget my aim for days, weeks, and months at a time. I also experienced a lot of confusion and emotional suffering periodically, as I had all my life. This was during 2003 -2007. Although I experienced Witness Consciousness at times, the pendulum of my emotions for the most part, still ruled the day. During this time, I completely did not get the necessity of sensing the body. I was for the most part trapped inside my head without realizing it. Mired in concepts,,,, During this time I did no sitting meditation. Only 4th way Self observation and tons of reading. While noticing others blind spots and imagination, I, myself, was also completely infected with uncontrolled imagination, and unaware of it. To express it bluntly. If you've been doing Inquiry for less than a year, chances are you still don't know jack shit, but you probably think you do. And you might,,,, But the extent of self deception in all of us is a staggering thing to behold in all of its extensiveness and complexity. -
A description of enneatype 6 (fear/doubt chief feature) in the different levels of SD Orange Type Six: The Questioner/The Frenetic. The independent mindset at the Orange level reduces the ability to trust in an outside authority and Type Six, The Questioner, must look inward for authority. Yet, Type Six still questions and doubts her inner authority. Questioning the inner authority, combined with needing external scientific proof, leads Type Six to become the Frenetic. Faith in an external authority is mistrusted. There is also a drive for material security, which can be procured only through one’s own actions. This drive can create courageous action through risk taking to seek ways to advance, forcing through fears and questions (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010). Green Type Six: The Questioner/The Champion. As Type Six, the Questioner becomes aware that “going it alone” doesn’t bring security, she turns to trusting others. In allowing herself to trust others, she begins to learn to trust herself. She finds connection with others through serving as the Champion for underdog causes, the downtrodden, and the disenfranchised. In the egalitarian mindset of Type Six in the Green level, she still does not trust authority figures, and she does not trust herself as an authority (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010). Yellow Type Six: The Questioner/The Trusting Self. In the Yellow level of consciousness, Type Six, the Questioner, is able to trust himself for the first time. The Trusting Self transforms rigidity and inconsistency into solidity as faith is embodied. From an understanding of the need for adaptive, flexible systems, the Trusting Self can operate under external authority when needed, or can serve as the authority. “Authority can be authorities because I’m the authority too, and I trust myself” (Ooten, Unpublished; Ooten, 2010). Turquoise Type Six: The Questioner/The Faithful Self. Type Six, the Questioner, understands at the Turquoise level that fear is simply one aspect of the multitude of experiences, and it has no more meaning than any other experience (Ooten, Unpublished). Realizing that life and death are merely energy states, the Faithful Self understands that security is always present and trusts in reality as it unfolds. Faith and trust in the unknowing brings courage to act spontaneously and allows Type Six to lead the continuation of life (Esposito, 2008; Ooten, 2010). The Different enneatypes in each stage described here: http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html
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Actualization Journal Dave's Saw-Mill . A subsidiary of Consciousness Unlimited specializing in the production of Visions of different dimensions Come see what I Saw The best time to crack a joke is when the tension is almost unbearable. I had a friend who once cracked a joke DURING a car wreck. This is nonsequitur “The repetitive motion of finding oneself through Identification (even true and worthy descriptions) keeps the being energy just below the critical velocity needed to escape the gravitational field of narrative selfhood.” - Cynthia Bourgeault This is saying a whole lot. It's pointing a way to Witness Consciousness. Note: "the being energy"
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Ken Wilbur, in an interview once described a time in his life while working on his theories. The term he used was "plutonium confusion". I've remembered it in part because,,,, I've felt that way in my Inquiry many times. Many teachers say the best thing we can do is just watch. Just observe. I agree, but it has always been difficult for me to do in times of high stress/confusion. Engaging in a lot of strenuous physical activity during the day has always been a good counterweight to Self observation for me, during these times. I'm an enneatype 6 (fear) type and also an adrenal (mars) essence type or endocrine type. You seem like a mars type as well. Cool picture by the way,,,,
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The intention behind starting this thread is a discussion around consciousness and not religion. Reactivity juxtaposed to choice Ted talks about the connection between Inquiry and Christ Consciousness The trap and limitations of 'identification' = spiritual sleep ? More discourse on reactivity or choice,,
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The quote above from Maurice Nicoll is one of my favorites. It's a good example of his sense of humor mixed with a profound spiritual truth. The truth in this being how we are all at the mercy of the ever changing mind or rather how through identification with thought, we are always going down the rabbit hole. Until we are able to separate from ego/personality and experience witness consciousness, we stay in self deception and spiritual egotism. The idea of Enlightenment being a one time event where one crosses a threshold once and for all is simply more delusion. The core of my practice for years has been Inquiry. For over two years now the practice of Centering Prayer 20 minutes, twice a day has been added. About 1 year ago for a few days, I fell out of this practice. This little episode made it clear to me the benifit of doing sitting meditation everyday. Consulting the I CHING every morning is also a huge help. Together these two practices really help in maintaining a continuity of experience. Like the expression of 'a red thread of meaning' which runs through a deep, challenging book, the red thread of Being can be experienced when enough attention is continually being directed toward a Contemplative yet objective lifestyle. A certain discipline is vital. This discipline is much easier when there is a simple love for the truth. To experience inner quiet and appreciate it in contrast with previous times of turmoil is a helpful reinforcement in maintaining discipline. Being deepens over time when experienced as a continuity. New aspects of being, often subtle at first , also appear. I can now understand how there is no end to it. The argumentative newby would look at the previous sentence and say,,, there is no "I". This is true but we have to use words to communicate and as it's been pointed out a billion times, language is itself dualistic. We just have to get used to this and see beyond it. This cannot happen if one refuses to go after their own shadow and the need to be right or argumentative. It's difficult to really get anywhere in Realization without having good will towards others.
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Hi, i like the title of your Journal. I appreciate people who are authentic and forthright. Look forward to the movie.