Zigzag Idiot

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  1. @jbram2002 Even though I sincerely take what Leo says in an overall way, differently than you. I respect what you say. ?
  2. To go fully into disco requires the full participation of my Idiot. One of the more reclusive members of this ship's crew is a real John Travolta. The other crew for the most part just shake their head at this guy. He annoys them outwardly but inside of themselves, truth be known, he scares the shit out of them.
  3. I too have a very addiction-prone personality. Although less in severity than alcohol and cigarettes, drinking Dr Pepper was a very long running one. Hallucinogenics are not appealing to me in the way of being addictive. In the past, I was often doing other substances along with them with my party boy personality. This created a little twist/blindspot in my perspective at times. My one experience with dmt nearly two years ago was anything but pleasant. One lsd trip in my teens was extremely traumatizing. I don't view Leo's partial focus on psychedelics as addictive at all but an alternative approach to accelerated growth. I've really done a disservice to the community here in having a party boy attitude regarding psychedelics in the last 3 or 4 months. Although I still value lightheartedness, I'm going to try to cut out the party boy attitude. I'm making arrangements to have a nn dmt trip in about 2 weeks from now.
  4. 6-12-2019 24. Returning. Line 6 27. Nourishing Council from the 6th line of hexagram 24 -- ,,,,,,,,This line can refer to the fate created when a person adopts the self image of being noblehearted. Such a person is trying to "be like God", whom he believes to possess unconditional Love, which he interprets as overlooking and tolerating ego-behavior. He does not see that this self image has put a spell and lock on all his senses of discernment. The Sage makes us aware of the Cosmic Consciousness, the source of all love, retreats in the presence of the ego, and withholds love so long as the ego is present, and in this way draws the person back to his true self. Practicing unconditional love creates one fate after another --- the disaster mentioned.,,,,,,,
  5. Discussion of how sexual repression can lead to pathological behavior. If one doesn't feed the wolf, it will turn against you.
  6. In having an Automaton and through purification of the emotional center giving access through subtle body to causal body.
  7. How is it possible that impulses for action exist within the field of impressionability? Through the causal body. Possibly. From a certain perspective. If it's true for you. Everything. It's direct. No transfer, if I understood the question correctly.
  8. @tsuki No. .?? No. ?? Maybe. Hard to say. A field of impressionability, perhaps.
  9. Instinct feels pre-personal. Feeling is personal. Intuition feels transpersonal.
  10. @tsuki I was going to comment last week on how you seem to take care in choosing your words and the possible significance of it. You've taken it to a whole new level here. Although learning to speak a second language would make everyone seem this way I intuit that in speaking your native language, you could be described as someone who communicated in this way. That, at times, you may pause in speaking for a moment or two to bring up the needed word for a more exacting communication. If you feel like it. Let's make it fun. Read this to your wife and let her give a thumbs up or thumbs down. ? = you are someone who more than others, will choose your words carefully. ? = you don't have this tendency to any exaggerated extent. Words are dualistic by their nature. Using visual impressions to communicate is open to broader interpretations as well as subtleties. I just rewatched it and think maybe I caught a glimmer of understanding. But maybe not. I can really be dense at times. I also intuit your wife is a mars or partial mars essence type. This could be a projection though. Is there a new state of consciousness or a new stage with this latest realization? Can it be applied to second tier of SD? I realize that I'm possibly mixing onions with oranges and apples and possibly your experience can't be put in these frames of references.
  11. When I'm unbalanced, out of center, and in ego more than being, reactivity is my downfall. Actually, the vocal expression of negative emotions is, which happens through reactivity. It empties me of the force which seems to go hand in hand with inner quiet. If I can manage to observe enough to keep my mouth shut and just allow the emotions to be how they are, this marks a crucial time. It has a cumulative effect when I'm able to do so. A special memory is created that can be added to later. Even if I screw up and make a mess of things the next time. It will have a contrast to the time I managed hold my tongue and therefore slightly improve my chances the next time. Once I let go and start bitching, blaming, etc., any kind of finer energy is burned up for the rest of the day and more likely along with this will be the old familiar negative internal dialogue. Reaching a deep sleep cycle the next night is very important for the body chemistry to get right again. The relative ability to observe means so much. I realize this through having a twice daily sitting meditation practice. Essentially, during these two times of the day all of my dispersed attention is gathered back up. Being in possession and control of my own attention is a crucial element for not being reactive. As a general rule, we have to watch ourselves fail several if not countless times. Being able to watch yourself 'go over the waterfall' is helpful in itself. Observe and see if this phenomena is also true for you. It's something I picked up in a previous self observation group. It helps create the special memory that's cumulative. Don't repress. Feel everything. Keep mouth shut. Don't speak it into the world. If you do lose it, watch yourself go 'over the waterfall'. Try to watch and guard against self criticism which only adds fuel to the fire.
  12. @Truth Addict I agree. I've always taken my health for granted and then only appreciate it in hindsight after I become ill. After years of repeatedly doing this, on occasions now I'm able appreciate more having good health while in a healthy condition.
  13. 6-11-2019 24. Returning Lines 2 and 3 11. Harmony/Peace/Prosperity From changing line 2 - ,,,,,Guilt is an invention of the collective ego, designed to keep people under its control. The person needs to get rid of all ideas of guilt and of the idea that repentance would free him of it. Repentance slanders the loving nature of the Cosmos, which holds nothing as guilty. The Cosmos gives the person all the help he needs to return to sincerity.,,,,,
  14. I woke up this morning thinking about this post of yours from a few days ago and your style of relating. As I was pondering, this scene from MEETINGS WITH REMARKABLE MEN came to mind. ? Thanks for sharing. ?
  15. Processing the worst of the shadow with a Psychotherapist In January of 2015 I was invited to a small group who were starting at the beginning of A Course IN MIRACLES. It was led by a Psychotherapist who had discovered ACIM in years past. This was his 5th or 6th time to go through it. I never had even looked at the text until that first meeting. I knew within few minutes that I was interested. Each week I drove 1 1/2 hours one way to go to the meetings. After about a month, I told Jim, the group organizer/Psychotherapist that I would like to schedule a weekly appointment to do some shadow work. For the first couple of appointments I just dumped everything I could bring out of my shadow. Traumas from childhood onward. Humiliations, hatreds, betrayals etc.,, Anthing that I could remember but wish I could forget or the worst of it, I told him. I knew he had been a therapist for years. So, I didn't hold back figuring he had heard it all. After about 6-8 weeks I felt that all I was doing at that point was needlessly stirring up emotional things. It felt good to just dump all that stuff on him and get his feedback and be done with it. If this idea appeals to you, I recommend it. Just find a therapist you feel ok with. Jim doesn't believe in all the new pharma. Says it's just a money maker needlessly perpetrated by big pharmaceuticals. I was on Paxil from about 2000 -2010 and quit them on my own. So I understand a little from different perspectives but I really feel the same as he does. Mostly because of him,,, A Professional in the field of psychotherapy. He sends out an email mini Column every week that I still subscribe to. This is it from last week. The Impossible Dream by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2019 Dr. Jim Rosen When you don’t love and appreciate yourself as a person, then you find yourself trying to please other people far too much of the time. You have this belief that if you try hard to be good (in the eyes of these other people), then they should recognize your worth, and then they’re supposed to respond with love, support and approval. So you do a lot for others, but the doing is to get something in return. Isn’t that the essence of selfishness – doing in order to get something? But you’re not quite able to completely please them, and they don’t quite give you what you really need. So you feel empty and resentful inside. And then you try even harder to please…Stop! When you develop self-love, you do what feels right and important on the inside, and you commence to give from your heart. This leads you to be truly giving – at times to yourself, at times to others. This is where you can live in a state of balance and where the emptiness and resentment can fall away. Very similar messages here:
  16. I don't know about eternity. I've not had any experience about it. I understand infinity to some degree because I've had an experience about it. it's not that I don't believe those who say with certainty that soul is eternal. I've just not realized it. Conceptually, I can envision 'Existence' as possibly being eternal. But soul and existence are two different things. Maybe they're not and possibly that would resolve the disparity for me. I've assumed most of my life that we each are a soul who is eternal. Pondering on it though, revealed some assumptions that went unnoticed in the past. The Teaching Gurdjieff gave that most are born with only a possibility of developing a soul makes a lot of sense in some ways, as horrible as that idea sounds. Centers and chakras can be confusing. They are two different things which sometimes are the same thing but most of the time they are not quite the same thing. The 3 transpersonal chakras are sometimes said to be around the knees, feet, and above the head. I think some traditions suggests maybe even dozens mini chakras that have specific locations in the body. There are three centers. No, there are four. No, actually there are five. When the belly or instinctIve center is subdivided into three as some do. That makes five. Hara or belly center divided by three-- The instinctive with autonomic nervous system and controlling bodily functions and processes. The instinctive/moving part (all learned movements like the ability to walk.) The sexual center.
  17. @Anderz I'm enjoying reading your Journal. Somebody in a recent YouTube gave Descartes - "I think, therefore I am", as something like the birth or definition of the modern ego and separate sense of self. Specifically, the neurotic self in the head. It may have even been Leo. I can't remember. If someone else remembers hearing this and who said it, please let me know.
  18. 6-10-2019 42. Increasing. Line 2 61. Inner Truth
  19. The essence of the idea of Karma-Yoga is to meet with unpleasant things equally with pleasant things. That is, in practicing Karma-Yoga, one does not seek always to avoid unpleasant things, as people ordinarily do. Life is to be met with non-identifying. When this is possible, life becomes one's teacher; in no other sense can life become a teacher, for life taken as itself is meaningless, but taken as an exercise it becomes a teacher. It is not life that is a teacher, but one's relation through non-identifying makes it become a teacher. Nothing can change being so much as this practice - namely, to take the unpleasant things in life as an exercise. (Maurice Nicoll, Commentaries, Vol. 1) In other words, it's about learning how to not take occurrences in life in a negative way. It's a process of purifying the heart.
  20. if you could change one thing about the culture you live in? Everyone's unconscious imagination which pollutes impartial objective thinking. What Gurdjieff referred to as Kundabuffer.
  21. A conscious politician would understand the human tendency which manifests most often as an unconscious compulsion, of feeding on negative emotions.
  22. I haven't read that one but I bet it is good. I like his wife's book - A Diamond in your Pocket - Gaganji
  23. Is there a hierarchy of consciousness? Yes. Not a dominator hierarchy but instead a growth hierarchy. "Cows scream louder than carrots when you kill them. That's why it's better to eat carrots than cows". - Ken Wilber quote There are degrees of being and degrees of consciousness. Teil Swan, Matt Kahn, or Leo has has a much higher degree of being and higher degree of consciousness than angry crybaby President Trump. This is just my vote and opinion though.
  24. Three good Enneagram books I recommend. The Enneagram of Passions and Virtues: Finding the Way Home Introduction This book is not simply about the enneagram. It is about inner transformation. It is about understanding some of the major characteristics of our consciousness in the state of personality or ego—that of believing and taking ourselves to be the person who is the product of our personal history. It is also about the changes our inner atmosphere undergoes as we become free of that identification. And finally, it is about skillful means, as the Buddhists would say: how to orient ourselves so that this transformation has the possibility of becoming a reality. Obviously, these aims imply that most of us are living within inner confines of which we are unaware, and that there is much more to us and to our potential experience of reality than we experience within the perimeters of ego. It also implies that it is possible to expand our consciousness beyond these constraints. This has been the endeavor of spiritual seekers throughout the ages, based on an inner intuition, or perhaps direct experience in extraordinary moments of deeper dimensions beyond those of ordinary consciousness. ,,,,,,,, Sandra Maitri's, "The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram: Nine Faces of the Soul" This review appeared in the 2003 July-August issue of New Dawn Magazine: ___________________________________ While the ideas inspiring the modern Enneagram concept can be traced at least as far back as classical Greek philosophy, the majority of material currently being taught about it, including the psychology of the nine Enneagram types, is the work of contemporary authors. In this sense, the Enneagram is not an established model, but a work-in-progress. Many fundamental ideas are shared by Enneagram formulators, but there are also significant differences and diverse theories about the types themselves, and the underlying philosophical base. A great deal of confusion even exists concerning the contributions made by different authors and teachers. The Enneagram was originally disseminated in the 1970s by enthusiasts passing around photocopied notes from Oscar Ichazo’s Arica School and Jesuit sources. These notes were not attributed to anyone, which made it extremely difficult to know who had authored them. As books were published, some clarity began to emerge, but even so, many assumed everything about the Enneagram belonged to an ancient “oral tradition” from the Sufis and was therefore in the public domain. For this reason, it is almost mandatory for a newcomer to read the work of students who received the first model of the teaching. The father of the modern Enneagram is Oscar Ichazo whose contributions were central to the development of the modern system. Ichazo linked the nine divine qualities or aspects found in Neoplatonism, Kabbalah, and mystical Christianity, to the Enneagram symbol. Most modern authors build their work on this model. Following this work was Claudio Naranjo, a student of Fritz Perls, founder of Gestalt therapy. Naranjo learned the Enneagram from Ichazo during his stay in Chile in 1970. He returned that year and began teaching the basic concepts to a small group in California. Naranjo combined his background in psychiatry with Ichazo’s teaching, and further developed the alignment between the nine types and modern clinical psychological categories, including the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) personality disorders, various defense mechanisms, and other personality theories. He developed additional ideas, and further applications for the 27 combinations of Enneagram types and Instincts. With the exception of A.H. Almaas and Sandra Maitri, no major Enneagram teacher or author has ever been a student of either Ichazo or Naranjo. More often than not, teachers and writers are part of the obscure and virtually untraceable line stemming from self styled teachers with their own methods and aims. While some of these may be quite progressive, the majority do not understand the concepts completely and interpret the Enneagram without knowledge of its essential properties. Sandra Maitri, author of The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram, is known as one of the Ridhwan School’s principal teachers who, with Almaas, taught the Enneagram system by Claudio Naranjo over twenty-five years ago. Her vast experience and direct knowledge and transmission of the initial concepts make her a formidable source for students interested in a different application of technique. The Enneagram has gained popularity in recent years as a system of understanding ourselves and others in which nine basic personality types – each having specific cognitive, affective, and behavioural characteristics – can be discerned. Nearly every modern Enneagram-related work treats the system only as a typology of personality, and while an extremely valuable psychological tool, its deeper purpose is largely unexplored. This is precisely where Maitri’s book is set apart. Rather than simply presenting the Enneagram as a definitive psychological typology, she seeks to illustrate the spiritual applications, and convey the original spirit and purpose of this body of knowledge as a tool for spiritual development. The Enneagram’s true function, Maitri explains, is to “point the way to who we are beyond the level of personality, a dimension of ourselves that is infinitely more profound, more interesting, and more rewarding.” Maitri shows how the Enneagram charts the disconnection from our inner depths, how each personality type develops as a part of this estrangement, and how traversing the inner territory particular to our type can bring fulfillment and meaning to our lives by bringing this deeper dimension to consciousness. She explores the nine types, the subtypes, the wings, and the inner movement of the Enneagram, all in the context of spiritual development. She includes a clear explanation of the concepts and methods for personal application, including a chapter on identifying your personal Enneagram type and the implications for your own development. For the reader interested in the development of the soul through an intimate knowledge of oneself, The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram is perfect. While so many spiritual models focus on the external factors, this is one of the effective few that find the path to spiritual development within the mind and personality of the individual. – Robert Buratti