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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna
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This is a link to Intuition quote page. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/intuition There are other good ones. Somewhere he says Diamond Guidance is the same thing as Holy Spirit. In his book Space Cruiser Inquiry.I think.
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Intuition is a Process or a Capacity, Not an Ontological Existence Now let us look at intuition. The word intuition is used to describe many different kinds of perception, of varying depth, profoundness, and accuracy. Sometimes intuition can mean a suspicion of a certain truth, a slight glimpse without certainty or clarity. Sometimes intuition can mean a feeling, more or less vague, about something. If we listen to such a feeling, it can lead us to understanding. Sometimes intuition is a hunch, something like a guess but with more of a feeling of certainty or weight to it. These are some of the things we call intuition. There are deeper aspects of intuition: for example, when we somehow know something, sometimes with a feeling of certainty, but don't know how we got the knowledge; we cannot explain to ourselves how we know. Sometimes we know something totally new, but we don't know where it came from, so we say we have an intuition. An intuition sometimes feels like a direct apprehension of a certain truth, but we can't explain how this apprehension occurred. So intuition is usually considered a mysterious process. Like insight, intuition can be about anything—the mind, other people's personalities, relationships, and even our true nature, our essence. However, intuition itself is not essence. It can help us to know essence, but it is a process or a capacity, not an ontological existence. Essence with the Elixir of Enlightenment, pg. 22 Activation of the Subtle Capacities of Perception The descent of peace brings up a new quality of Essence, with all of its properties and capacities to support our inquiry, but it also activates the subtle centers, the subtle capacities of perception. The primary perceptual center is the Black latifa, at the center of the forehead. It is also the center of the operation of the Diamond Guidance itself. During inquiry, the Guidance tends to operate as a presence at the center of the forehead. That is why you get clear and crisp in your head when you understand something. When these subtle perceptions are first activated, intuition means that the experience of knowledge is coming through a quiet mind, which indicates that the Black center is open. You become receptive to insights, ideas, and truths, but you don’t know exactly where they are coming from. You become more intuitive in the usual meaning of the word—that is, you are open to knowledge in a way that you do not understand or directly perceive. What this means, however, is that although you are receiving knowledge as insights from a true inner source of discrimination—what we call the Diamond Guidance—this source is not yet present in your direct experience. Its center and its channel are open, but you receive messages or insights indirectly. Spacecruiser Inquiry, pg. 315
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@Commodent I've read some of the other Krishnamurti years ago and only knew vaguely 'about' this one, UG Krishnamurti. Actually somewhere on YouTube I saw his death that was recorded, He was on a friends couch in Italy I think? Anyway,, it may still be floating around. Just opened up the book. Looks interesting,,,,,,and good.
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For all Warriors on the path, this entry is meant to be a hang out spot in times of uncertainty, or pain and suffering of any kind. Bookmark it if you think you need to. This hang out place is open for all and everyone, though. Im out of breath,,, just got here. what do all these different signs say? Over here at the edge,,, https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/exercises_enneachord.htm hmmmm hmmmmhhmmmm. Some of this really makes sense. Sometimes my reading speed is really slowed down. Unexpectedly my frame of reference increases. In the meantime I'll just read some more,,,,
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@DrewNows I agree. One problem is I'm just interested in everything! Problem, no problem.?
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It takes a very large frame of reference to resolve all the disparities around the subject of psychological projection because it blends with the territory of intuition and inner seeing. Purifying the emotional center is how it's addressed by some. Blood, sweat, and tears are in the recipe. I have trouble expressing the fullness of some notions but this provides me some work to apply back to my responsibilities and creative gestures. What ACIM refers to as creating. Thanks. Words can become such clumsy objects.
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@Bill W you just applied some very good third force, bud. @remember I know what it feels like to branded. To have a label put on me. To have to endure an injustice. I bet Charlotte also knows how that feels. Learning to adjust your frame of reference,,,,, suddenly I hit complexity that won't fit into linguistic awareness. So like @Bill W said, hope you stick around.
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@DrewNows Thanks for this one above. As the saying goes- I'm as busy as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest today. I feel we think similarly. If you could send me a short list of your favorites from him of what you've seen so far that would be great. Either here or PM. If not, I understand. I'll see them eventually. ?♂️
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You make some good points. What follows are just my opinions: Patriarchy has declined into a camouflaged pathology. Matriarchy would be just as bad if it magically became rule. Matrifocal structures will evolve in the future. Women will move to the forefront in this new historical age. This will be part of a growth hierarchy which will encourage new ways of being and doing that will surpass more than you imagine in your wildest fantasies as a healthy virile male. And the same with women when they finally catch the idea and let go of the very things which are holding them back. This will be a shift from a dominator hierarchy to a new emerging growth hierarchy. Patriarchy is already dead and ideas of Matriarchy will become passé. Right now at the beginning of this 2150 year cycle of the Aquarian age ( Cosmic month) a Matrifocal world culture is on the cusp of our horizon. Let go and let love and prepare to be blissed out in ways you never imagined. ?
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Zigzag Idiot replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Perhaps she is an embodiment of the message she brings forward. To go forward, despite fear and doubt. That is the Warriors way. For a sorcerer, reality, or the world we all know, is only a description that has been pounded into you from the moment you were born. The reality of our day-to-day life, then, consists of an endless flow of perceptual interpretations which we have learned to make in common. I am teaching you how to see as opposed to merely looking, and stopping the world is the first step to seeing. The sorcerer's description of the world is perceivable. But our insistence on holding on to our standard version of reality renders us almost deaf and blind to it. When you begin this teaching, there is another reality, that is to say, there is a sorcery description of the world, which you do not know. As a sorcerer and a teacher, I am teaching you that description. What I am doing with you consists, therefore, in setting up that unknown reality by unfolding its description, adding increasingly more complex parts as you go along. In order to arrive at seeing one first has to stop the world. Stopping the world is indeed an appropriate rendition of certain states of awareness in which the reality of everyday life is altered because the flow of interpretation, which ordinarily runs uninterruptedly, has been stopped by a set of circumstances alien to that flow. In this case the set of circumstances alien to our normal flow of interpretations is the sorcery description of the world. The precondition for stopping the world is that one has to be convinced; in other words, one has to learn the new description in a total sense, for the purpose of pitting it against the old one, and in that way break the dogmatic certainty, which we all share, that the validity of our perceptions, or our reality of the world, is not to be questioned. After stopping the world the next step is seeing. By that I mean what could be categorized as responding to the perceptual solicitations of a world outside the description we have learned to call reality. A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. Going to knowledge or going to war in any other manner is a mistake, and whoever makes it will live to regret his steps. When a man has fulfilled those four requisites there are no mistakes for which he will have to account; under such conditions his acts lose the blundering quality of a fool's acts. If such a man fails, or suffers a defeat, he will have lost only a battle, and there will be no pitiful regrets over that. * * * A man of knowledge is one who has followed truthfully the hardships of learning, a man who has, without rushing or without faltering, gone as far as he can in unravelling the secrets of power and knowledge. To become a man of knowledge one must challenge and defeat his four natural enemies. When a man starts to learn, he is never clear about his objectives. His purpose is faulty; his intent is vague. He hopes for rewards that will never materialize for he knows nothing of the hardships of learning. He slowly begins to learn--bit by bit at first, then in big chunks. And his thoughts soon clash. What he learns is never what he pictured, or imagined, and so he begins to be afraid. Learning is never what one expects. Every step of learning is a new task, and the fear the man is experiencing begins to mount mercilessly, unyieldingly. His purpose becomes a battlefield. And thus he has stumbled upon the first of his natural enemies: fear! A terrible enemy--treacherous, and difficult to overcome. It remains concealed at every turn of the way, prowling, waiting. And if the man, terrified in its presence, runs away, his enemy will have put an end to his quest and he will never learn. He will never become a man of knowledge. He will perhaps be a bully, or a harmless, scared man; at any rate, he will be a defeated man. His first enemy will have put an end to his cravings. It is not possible for a man to abandon himself to fear for years, then finally conquer it. If he gives in to fear he will never conquer it, because he will shy away from learning and never try again. But if he tries to learn for years in the midst of his fear, he will eventually conquer it because he will never have really abandoned himself to it. Therefore he must not run away. He must defy his fear, and in spite of it he must take the next step in learning, and the next, and the next. He must be fully afraid, and yet he must not stop. That is the rule! And a moment will come when his first enemy retreats. The man begins to feel sure of himself. His intent becomes stronger. Learning is no longer a terrifying task. When this joyful moment comes, the man can say without hesitation that he has defeated his first natural enemy. It happens little by little, and yet the fear is vanquished suddenly and fast. Once a man has vanquished fear, he is free from it for the rest of his life because, instead of fear, he has acquired clarity--a clarity of mind which erases fear. By then a man knows his desires; he knows how to satisfy those desires. He can anticipate the new steps of learning and a sharp clarity surrounds everything. The man feels that nothing is concealed. And thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity! That clarity of mind, which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. It forces the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is clear. But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his second enemy and will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more. His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man of knowledge. Instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything. He must do what he did with fear: he must defy his clarity and use it only to see, and wait patiently and measure carefully before taking new steps; he must think, above all, that his clarity is almost a mistake. And a moment will come when he will understand that his clarity was only a point before his eyes. And thus he will have overcome his second enemy, and will arrive at a position where nothing can harm him anymore. This will not be a mistake. It will not be only a point before his eyes. It will be true power. He will know at this point that the power he has been pursuing for so long is finally his. He can do with it whatever he pleases. His ally is at his command. His wish is the rule. He sees all that is around him. But he has also come across his third enemy: Power! Power is the strongest of all enemies. And naturally the easiest thing to do is to give in; after all, the man is truly invincible. He commands; he begins by taking calculated risks, and ends in making rules, because he is a master. A man at this stage hardly notices his third enemy closing in on him. And suddenly, without knowing, he will certainly have lost the battle. His enemy will have turned him into a cruel, capricious man, but he will never lose his clarity or his power. A man who is defeated by power dies without really knowing how to handle it. Power is only a burden upon his fate. Such a man has no command over himself, and cannot tell when or how to use his power. Once one of these enemies overpowers a man there is nothing he can do. It is not possible, for instance, that a man who is defeated by power may see his error and mend his ways. Once a man gives in he is through. If, however, he is temporarily blinded by power, and then refuses it, his battle is still on. That means he is still trying to become a man of knowledge. A man is defeated only when he no longer tries, and abandons himself. He has to come to realize that the power he has seemingly conquered is in reality never his. He must keep himself in line at all times, handling carefully and faithfully all that he has learned. If he can see that clarity and power, without his control over himself, are worse than mistakes, he will reach a point where everything is held in check. He will know then when and how to use his power. And thus he will have defeated his third enemy. The man will be, by then, at the end of his journey of learning, and almost without warning he will come upon the last of his enemies: Old age! This enemy is the cruelest of all, the one he won't be able to defeat completely, but only fight away. This is the time when a man has no more fears, no more impatient clarity of mind--a time when all his power is in check, but also the time when he has an unyielding desire to rest. If he gives in totally to his desire to lie down and forget, if he soothes himself in tiredness, he will have lost his last round, and his enemy will cut him down into a feeble old creature. His desire to retreat will overrule all his clarity, his power, and his knowledge. But if the man sloughs off his tiredness, and lives his fate though, he can then be called a man of knowledge, if only for the brief moment when he succeeds in fighting off his last, invincible enemy. That moment of clarity, power, and knowledge is enough. Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary. This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you. Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it. I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to want to know. The path without a heart will turn against men and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to seek nothing. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have a heart, on any path that may have a heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel--looking, looking, breathlessly. From: http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan1.html That is why this woman gets it. It's not just about the men.
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In Talks on Beelzebub's Tales, Bennett distinguishes four types of suffering - Unnecessary Suffering, Unavoidable Suffering, Voluntary Suffering and Intentional Suffering. Lets have a look at each of these to see if they can help our understanding: The first is Unnecessary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we incur because of our unreasonable attitudes and expectations towards others, from our ill-will, hatred and rejection of others, from doubt, possessiveness, arrogance and self pity. In other words, suffering arising from our self-importance. The second is Unavoidable Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that comes to us by accident or from events beyond our control, such as interpersonal conflicts, war, disaster, disease or death. Third, we have Voluntary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish a personal aim, such as an athlete who disciplines himself to win a race, or a student who labours to get good grades. And finally we have Intentional Suffering. According to Bennett, this would be the kind of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish an impersonal or altruistic goal, one that is directed more towards service to others or to the Work, and not for any personal gain. Bennett assumes that this is what Gurdjieff meant by Intentional Suffering. From an article on the second Conscious Shock https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_is_talk_ae2005.htm
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Once you Witness your own projection, It no longer feeds the painbody as it did prior to that.
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@remember You serve many here by providing an example of what projection is. Thank You.
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There's a scene similar to this in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas that always put me in stitches. I think I shared this Hunter S Thompson documentary a while back unless I just imagined that. Here it is again anyway. https://youtu.be/VlAZV_EsSSE It won't embed. Hope the link works.
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A distinction needs to be made here. Two different usages for the word 'mind'. ACIM is not in contradiction with Dr. Robert Morse. They are in alignment. ?
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@Bill W I failed the challenge. I'm inspired! ??♂️
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D @DrewNows I just watched the interview with Dr Robert Morse in your Journal. I'm beginning to share your enthusiasm,,,, It feels like I have about 200 questions that I want to ask you all at once. I'm definitely going to watch more from him! Earlier this evening I watched this one on sugar addiction and it made me consider how much I need a three week retreat. At first I was sitting with my hypocrisy watching the lady above and associating her knowledge with Jana Dixon's Biology of Kundalini. Watching Dr Morse interview in your Journal helped me relax.??
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Bump and adding name tags. @Leo Gura and @Emerald Thank you for your work,
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Zigzag Idiot replied to Fuku's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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@remember I don't feel understanding between us here. In the meantime, I'm pondering.
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? @remember How is this not an example of feeding on negative emotions?
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Currently watching although I've been pondering this phrase for the past few days. "The Transcendental Object at the end of time". Could it be the noosphere manifested through the internet? Multiplicity is unobserved, unintegrated, ship of fools. Is Integration the Pearl beyond Price? - authentic, natural, yet multifaceted in being. In shadow work I observe and process the Zen devil I became at times in the past. Eckart Tolle's use of the term painbody is so right on. Zen Devils are puppets of the painbody. They are not culprits. They are victims of an element within themselves starved of love and turned cynical and with me in the past, often vicious. Even an overcompensating viciousness. As a teenager, I completely traumatized close friends with visciousness which destroyed some old childhood friendships.