allislove

@Serotoninluv thanks, the reply reminded me of Goenka's words from Vipassana retreat. Something like: everything is impermanent, just observe, without any attachments. Anicca, Anicca, Anicca

@Serotoninluv now I want to fly to the USA and see the Grand Canyon. Thank you for sharing, I feel a lot of wisdom in your words. Just to make it crystal clear to me. Here you described what happens when the mind becomes attached and identified to the experience. What is the other side of it? How a person behaves after a nondual experience when the mind didn't attach and didn't identify to it? Not sure if this question makes sense but felt like to ask.

@Truth Addict thank you. Interesting, I haven't thought about "personal experience vs. impersonal theories" duality. They should be transcended, but maybe this topic is too deep for this post. I can learn how electrons were discovered, I don't want to repeat the same experiment with a vacuum tube. But to read reports on psychedelics and have own experience of psychedelics is a completely different story. I can't grasp the essence of experience just by reading reports.

You raised interesting observation, thank you. I think so too. So, what you are proposing is to be more critical to personal experience? Let the interpretation of the personal experience go? Yet the personal experience is the key to growth.

Leo, are you aware how Infinite Intelligence created this bug? It was inevitable, the best configuration of reality, right?

@Truth Addict could be. But thank you guys for the input. I think it was helpful.

knowing = understanding = being aware? I am stuck in contemplating what is understanding. Please share your ideas.

@Nahm from the theory of everything book: So, Understanding is the recognition of "I Am".

@Nahm ?❤️

haha, amazing

@Truth Addict I'll try to come up with what concerns me. As @Serotoninluv said there are different forms of understanding. I think you are trying to say the same thing differently. Pardon me if I interpret what you said wrongly. I am interested in... let's say I say: I understand God, or I understand reality, or I understand consciousness, or I understand what I really want. What does it really mean? How can we check that? It looks like it's intuitive form of undestanding... I don't know.

Thanks @Truth Addict Now I see and I don't know

So Infinete intelligence = Understanding. Okay, I can tap to Infinite intelligence using psychedelics for example. But then to integrate the insights I need to use finite intelligence. I have a feeling that finite intelligence and infinite is the One. Spiritual pepper shaker warning lol

I just was listening an audiobook and someone said: so you understand this and that, so you can behave such and such in that situation. And then I realized that I don't know what understanding is. Probably, in the audiobook context - understanding = behavior change. Anyhow, there is no meaning in anything, so why not? I don't see why you think your question is better.

Sounds great. Few thoughts came to mind: Understanding = Love It's not possible to understand Understanding

That all makes sense to me. Thanks for sharing. I am interested in intuitive form of understanding. Probably, it just is.

Hm, thanks, need to re-watch then.

Thanks, what is 'make sense'?

Interesting, thanks. Leo has "What is Love" episode. Where is the episode on what is understanding?

Thank you. I resonate with your answer, but what is knowing? If it's the same thing as understanding you described understanding in terms of understanding.

Holy macaroni.

Just Love

I hope this is:

Elisabeth, thank you. I think the most benefits from 5-meo may come when someone does it rectally, so it's easier to have a trip with open eyes. But, I think, this is a super challenging experience since you have to let go, so ego dies during a trip. I did smoking the big dose of 5-meo, so the process of letting go was simple. I just didn't have a choice if I may say like that. I've got an interesting experience. That experience shattered my materialistic paradigm and opened my mind, but still, if I could connect the experience to the environment around me, the benefits would be bigger, I think. So, what I recommend based on my limited experience (1-time 5-meo smoking and 2 times lsd full dose). If you don't have experience with psychedelics − start from lsd (from small dose?). That's also a powerful tool but you can easily connect the experience to the environment. Just my recommendation, listen your heart, I wish you the best.

The problem with vaporizing is that: you can't keep your eyes opened, so you won't connect the experience to environment, which is beneficial, I guess.