Ayla

I see a lot of phrases like that flying around as Truths, so I thought of starting a topic where we could question them. I expect a lot of woo-woo mind here... but that's OK. That is also consciousness ******************************************************************** WE ARE ALL ONE... lol - it makes me laugh!!! It's been so used and abused and mostly, one could feel that the energy behind it is all wrong... even if the truth one can think is behind it, is there. Already "we are" sounds scratchy. In human language, WE refers to more than one. No such thing. Do you see more than a cloud when there's a cloud? ARE.. also this seems finite. ARE versus are not/this will cease to be. FALSE. ALL it the most dissonant. ALL throws into despair. Keeps into "you" that is separate from "another". And than there's this ONE that mind can f*ck with you forever lol. People mistake those experiences of them merging with a tree for enlightenment... It still is experiencing. It is still mind playing with you.. How can "I" be one with a tree? People lose years, lifetimes even clinging to this one. So There is no WE There is no ARE There is not ALL and There is no ONE None of that stuff is real.

@Ramu Yes, person will relax into this too...

Words spoken are felt as being lies here. Along with the impossibility to speak what is not truth. Back to I here goes.

@Ramu There's a struggle - most likely by personhood left here - to try and help the unveiling

@Keyblade Viking I was not implying this is not true. But the words used are far from describing how it really feels. Words used are separating. "ALL" is an illusion. "ONE" is almost impossible to grasp for human mind... Still, many people use this phrase and struggle to see through it. I see that as a trap!

@Emerald Wilkins I hoped you'll see it this way. Thanks sweetheart !

You're right. There's a fear behind this that I already know of: that of "me" becoming unable to interact and becoming a hermit LOL All's fine...

@Pinocchio I understand what you are saying. I'm just trying to get out something that is coming through ... and words are USELESS ... so I stumble..

@Emerald Wilkins , I hope you are getting some value from this, I wouldn't like you to feel as I've hijacked your post. It just flows here..

Yes, but also, it is impossible for them to exist outside of that... different from that. I think this "illusion" term needs to be questioned to its root also... which I will do sipping a glass of wine at a cute table on the beach in exactly 15 minutes

Also this one. Why would the foundation of THAT be so dualistical ? Big opening must take place to make space for this one it feels....

This comes as a bit of a dissonance to this ear. Cannot explain why. As if it is like that, still, it was not supposed to be like that or not forever like that... Its just having trouble translating the thingie, but ... there's too much of a buzz to be able to hear the delicate whisper of Grace.. Oh well... Thanks for the help

So this basically could be the key to eternal (physical) life also? For example if people would imprint their children less and less up to "virgin" conception... and teach them a sort of a dance of growth>>clear>>inquiry ...

Will look once this stills, thanks

@Pinocchio What do you think about the physical death association with the emotional wound? This here is buzzing with insights... just wish I could know how the heck to describe it with f*cking words DAMN

@Pinocchio Thanks, I will. It's only that this here now (lol) has a bigger source of insights for the moment - THAT !

Similarly, you cannot take one hand with you when you "die" ... "wound" must be completely discarded. Hmmmm

Something just came: There's a point in the searching where beingness seems stuck, and "I wonder" if it is not the inner trauma that keeps that gate closed. If you "think" about it, this inner questioning needs to get through the solidity of how you have become through programming, trauma, drama, societal woowoo, etc. What just came to me is that the "virgin birth" of Jesus, was a way of actually saying that He has not been "imprinted" with human s*it. So it might just be that we are like Helium balloons rising up to a point where we need to discard the trauma (childhood mostly) that is keeping us from breaking through. I have personally done that for the last year or so, and at the end of it - NO-Self revealed itself in all its power, splendor and glory as always being THAT. The implications of this, could be HUGE, as the stuckness would be your signal that there's a trauma there needing to be released, instead of questioning further (with the risk of getting either frustrated or lost in mind). This could also mean that there doesn't need to be an "EITHER/OR" between self-development work and enlightenment work, but a dance, a sort of a roundness to it... (like yin&yang thingie) *very very difficult to express things in the "right" way... pfftttt

@Pinocchio Doing a little bit of a spring clean in your spare time ?

This video might help:

RE EFT - I think it is only usable to release a full blown panic attack, but is useless in relieving deep trauma (it only numbs the momentary discomfort) I used both these successfully: But the real breakthrough was the understanding that none of the stories I was telling myself were happening to ME.

No person in this. No "I" here..there... Imploding exploding LOVE God "I" LOVE "YOU" THANK YOU thank you thank you thank you

"problem" is that people cling to them and try to make sense of them... speak them, "meditate" with them... cling to them as if they were "solid" ...

Truth is like one of those soap bubbles. As soon as you try to grasp it, it's gone. Look at one those "catch phrases": WE ARE ALL ONE... lol - it makes me laugh!!! It's been so used and abused and mostly, one could feel that the energy behind it is all wrong... even if the truth one can think is behind it, is there. Already "we are" sounds scratchy. In human language, WE refers to more than one. No such thing. Do you see more than a cloud when there's a cloud? ARE.. also this seems finite. ARE versus are not/this will cease to be. FALSE. ALL it the most dissonant. ALL throws into despair. Keeps into "you" that is separate from "another". And than there's this ONE that mind can f*ck with you forever lol. People mistake those experiences of them merging with a tree for enlightenment... It still is experiencing. It is still mind playing with you.. How can "I" be one with a tree? People lose years, lifetimes even clinging to this one. So There is no WE There is no ARE There is not ALL and There is no ONE None of that stuff is real.

It is a masquerade of those yes, exclusively based on your own programming