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Haha I hear Leo. Lemme put it this way.... Is being directly conscious, right here, right now... neo - advaitan crap? You and other members might have a problem with this method/approach. So do I, sometimes. But don't confuse the method of peeling layers of conditioning away for actual, direct awareness. That's what this is all about.

It gets itself!

I am cooking my favorite pasta bolognese alla Ivanovski, while watching / listening to this super cool interview between Devin Townsend and Steve Vai. Somewhere around the 30min mark, they start bringing in more and more spiritual concepts, particularly tied to creative endeavours, but also just life in general. An hour in, and Steve really starts going deep. You can tell he's so excited to share all his spiritual wisdom. I knew Vai was into spirituality, and Devin too... But I did not know they were so woke. Just so much wisdom, laid out so casually and effortlessly, by two musicians, two friends, two brothers. There is so much respect, love, compassion in the atmosphere. It's beautiful. And it's devoid of all the spiritual ego stroking, that you get from your usual gurus. These dudes know what's up. Trust me. They are super humble and under the rader about it, but they know what's up.

+1 felt that

I don't know about anything else... but god does the guy suck at speaking.

I thought this was super cool and interesting... Somewhere around the 2:15:30 mark Steve says to Devin: "Nobody can act outside of their conditioning at any given time of their life..." To which Devin fantastically replies with the perfect question: "Ok, but how is that a choice then? If you can't act outside of your conditioning, how can you make a choice to act in a different way?" At this point I thought it's checkmate and Steve won't be able to come back with the right answer on spot. But he fucking did. He kind of blew my mind, again. Both of them. Such a beautiful interaction. Anyways... Steve said something along the lines of: "No matter where you're at, and no matter where you've evolved to... You're there. The actions that you take and the thoughts that you think are reflective of where you are at any given time. You are not able to make the choice to change the way you act and think until you realize that you have that choice." To which Devin says: "So the realization is a separate mechanism?" - (again, wonderful question) And Steve replies: "Well, the realization is recognizing that you're already doing it now... You are creating your reality, at any given moment."

I take the work I do here seriously. And sometimes I have some fun too. It's worth it. Consuming information. But also, contribution to the whole. Doing other things becomes more juicy because of the work that I do here.

I think this thread has run its course. We barley managed to stay on topic, but I do feel like I worked through a thing or two by talking to some of you guys. Thank you. If I may, I request the thread to be locked.

I'm seriously starting to give up on women. In terms of having a serious, committed monogamous relationship, that is. And that sucks, because I have no alternatives. The fuck is going on nowdays? Is everybody gone completely bat shit crazy? I'm fucking fed up with all the double standards, the hypocrisy, the lies, the manipulation, immaturity, stupidity... I know a lot of men feel the same way. And I'm sure some decent women that have been fucked over a few times too. Is all hope gone? Thankfully, I'm a fairly good looking guy that brings plenty to the table. I could just fuck around with no strings attached for the next 20 years, easily. It's not hard for me to get pussy, at all. But that's not what my heart really wants. That would satisfy only my dick, and not even. Someone else though, who's less fortunate, could not do not even that. I feel for those men. I stay out of these man vs. women debates pretty much at all times, because I think it only deepens our hate and pain... but goddamnit, I cannot play dumb or keep turning the other cheek for much longer. I accumulated tons of nasty feelings towards the opposite sex, simply by dealing with their bullshit. So yes. Her money is her money. My money is our money. But she wants to be equal, of course. My mind is blown.

INFJ

@AerisVahnEphelia You are kind of right about a few things, but also no, not really. I have plenty "game". I'm not just a dumb good looking guy. There's a lot of those out there, yes. Not one of them. I have a life - long mission that I am extremely committed to. I put 20+ years of work into developing a skill. Girls are attracted to that. I can make girls laugh so hard they cannot breathe. I can also make them feel all kinds of other (good and bad) emotions that most of them never felt before in their lives. I am confident, I know what I want and I'm working hard to get there. And that's attractive. The girl I am dating at the moment is arguably the highest quality woman I've been with so far. She travelled a lot, lived in different parts of the world, worked all kinds of interesting jobs, has connections everywhere, etc. Currently she's studying political science. She cooks amazing, etc. She's not a super model, and if I was going just for the looks... I could probably do better. I am obviously looking for more than that. Also, more than just good sex and fun times. I do settle for less often, won't deny it. And that has to do with my insecurities and shortcomings. But I am far from you everyday, party hard and pick up chicks kind of a chad. I am the complete opposite in that sense. I stay home most of the times and do my shit. @_Archangel_ Yes, good point. It's not like we did not talk about it up until now, numerous times. We do talk a lot about our issues. Sometimes it seems like it's all that we do. It's just that things usually get super heated and emotional and we burn out. We do not move past things, rather just surrender to how things are. Definitely some major differences that we may or may not find a way to work through.

Yes, it's just that many are not capable of that. It's much easier for them to put someone on the pedestal and blindly follow them. I think for myself. I don't buy into just any nonsense. I've had my insights and realizations all that biz. All of it valid and real. Yet I still have a hard time navigating these waters at times. It's not an easy thing to do. This environment has always been a bit more toxic than it should. There are forums that are much more pure - so to speak. But perhaps those places are not as exciting. I like this forum, overall. But boy did I fall into a few nasty traps over the years here.

Yes. A casual place where some people come to figure out their life and existence as a whole. If not careful, one can easily fuck themselves up here. Like, seriously fuck themselves up. Simply by buying into shit people have to say, taking advice they shouldn't be taking, following people they shouldn't be following, etc.

Probably. I'm often extremely idealistic too. Don't worry, I'm well aware that this is just my subjective experience and opinions.

@Thought Art For sure. A pilot is also just human, just like me. But if he sucks at what he's doing, I'd rather not get on that plane.

Haha, sorry not sorry. I say what I see. Not all of you suck, and even those who suck have plenty of good qualities, I guess. But overall, not setting a super good example.

Yes, we are all working on that, aren't we? Thank you, truly.

Cool man, still not very cool, no matter what you're doing or trying to achieve. We fundamentally disagree on what relationships are. I think we established that a while ago. Nothing wrong with that, but I'm sorry, I cannot value your opinion or advice on the matter. I'm doing fine, no worries. It sucks here and there, but I'm doing perfectly fine. I have incredibly deep and meaningful relationships, with tons of sex and fun. Some disagreements or some arguing here and there won't kill me.

I really do. Our connection is terrible though, if it wasn't obvious so far Now you're just being a dick How the fuck can you possibly know what's going on in my life? Based on 3 or 4 relationship issues that I vented about here? Zero validity, all assumptions, ignorance and judgment. Not to mention immaturity. Possibly some envy, too. I'm really surprised lately by the quality of these moderators that Leo picked... But then I take a better look at Leo, and it all kind of makes sense.

@AerisVahnEphelia Haha, I love you my man. Wasn't really necessary, but thank you. Good to know someone has your back here

I was not flexing, I was responding to your wonderful moderators comments. They do not understand why I would stay with this girl if I can so easily replace her.

@The0Self @NoSelfSelf I can get pussy easily, yes. I could throw this chick out on the streets and have a new one in my bed in a blink of an eye, yes. Only thing is, I do not view women as soulless objects and I do not go through them like changing a pair of socks. I'm not buying a new car. We are talking about a human being that has positive and negative sides, different values and beliefs, past experiences, etc. We are talking about a girl that I live with. I obviously got attached and fell in love with her. I'm not a rock. I do develop feelings, and that's only natural. Relationships are not a commodity to me. I obviously see a bit deeper meaning in having a relationship. I believe in fighting for something that seems worth the fight. Instead of just cowardly running away when things get a bit heated. The line must be drawn somewhere, for sure. But I'd say we're not there just yet.

By being a cool outsider that comes in and out and does seemingly magical things.

Good point. Thanks.

Will do. I'm afraid I might be a bit too open minded in this scenario.