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@fridjonk If something is false and that's true...does that make it false or true?

@remember But the conceptual is the actual. Infinity is all-inclusive. It does not exclude a single thing. That is why everything is a quality of Infinity. There is no lie. Only truth.

@remember The interference is continuous. That is why time is a necessary quality of now. A flavour of the ongoing magic. Illusion implies something is false. Imagination includes all possibilities and they're all true. Segregation vs. Unification.

@Anna1 I don't want you to do anything. It was just a suggestion. I clearly offended you unintentionally - so again, sorry. Just trying to communicate my views - that's all. @remember Imagination is real. Literally.

@remember How so? Why does it seem to you like I'm talking about a concept and not about actuality? Can you share with me something about the actuality of time that would appeal to an awakened mind? (without saying it's an Illusion and there is only now) How and why does change occur?

@remember Existence is impossible. Yet it still is

@Anna1 It is my opinion that you do not embody certain qualities. Just as it is your opinion that I "attacked" anyone here. And if it seems that way to anyone - I apologize. It was not my intention. I just stood my ground. And you did too. It's how interaction occurs. You can always skip the thread if you disagree with what's being said.

@Ero I persist and seemingly contradict your points of views simply because I know I went through the same phase of evolution that I recognize you to be in. I'm offering an opportunity for you to expand your views and understandings. Just as you are by sharing with me what you've realized. From my pov; you're the ones who are stuck and unwilling to move along. You are simply too afraid of embracing anything that's not "the absolute truth". Not realizing that everything is the truth. No matter how you slice it. I embrace my standpoint by sharing my views with confidence. I also embrace my human nature. I do not hide behind or hover above. Exactly that is what's the next step you are avoiding. That's what one does once God is realized. It does not stop anything. The circle never ends. @Codrina Thank you. Only nothing knows about nothingness ? @Anna1 I ask you not to believe me or adopt my views. I'm just explaining why I wrote what I wrote. And I respectfully disagree with what you wrote. I think that's not a crime.

I suppose the misunderstanding happens because some of you speak of time as a concept or a mental construct, when I'm referring to the actual "thing". Similar to when you hold a cup in your hand you can see it as a cup, or you can see that which you have no idea what is.

@Anna1 @TrynaBeTurquoise You both speak of something you do not really embody. If you were to truly be Infinity - instead of only pointing towards it - you'd eventually, inevitably become aware of what's being said here. If you are having an experience of anything at all; you are experiencing time, continuously. It's that simple. I created this thread to describe the mechanism behind time. Not to argue whether it is an illusion or not.

@The Lucid Dreamer There is no illusion because you have no thing to compare to something else. That is; if you are truly in the moment. There is, however; an effect. An effect that's created by you being in the moment. From one moment to another. But it is impossible to truly know or feel what I'm saying unless you have or are completely merged with the moment. Illusion can only be if you compare this to that. "One moment it seemed to be this, but turns out it was something else. It must be a trick". Can you see the comparison? Comparing one moment to another? As if one moment is true and another is a lie. There is no such thing if you are one with now. Every passing moment is The Truth. And time is just an effect created by consciousness being conscious of each and every one of those moments. Every perspective. Every reality. How can there be only now but also time, you might ask? Well, because, God.

@pluto ❤ Love Bashar. Benthino also spoke of shifting and parallel realities. It's not anything new, really. Many became aware of what I shared here. It's just not that popular as saying everything is an illusion

@Nahm You. Experiencing it right now. @Keyhole @Anna1 I cannot show it to you. But you can see it yourself. The projection cannot see the projector. The projector can see all projections. All frames. It's what sets them in motion. Animates them and gives them life. Light.

What you think of as thoughts of the past or the future is actually just you tapping into parallel realities that are all happening simultaneously. You're never thinking really. You are picking up on endless probabilities. Also; this moment right now before you that you would label as "actual" and "real"...is a thought. It's just that you're fully tuned into it. Which makes it seem real and tangible. It is a materialized thought.

@The Lucid Dreamer Time being illusory or not is not even the point I wanted to emphasize, really. It's just that people got triggered by my first two sentences. Point is; you are shifting now. And now. And now. All the time. At the speed of light. That's what creates the effect of time.

@Anna1 We disagree mainly because we view and understand time differently. As well as "the mind". We have different definitions. To me; time is not merely a mental construct that people came up with. It is actually a quality of consciousness. Precisely because everything is happening now; Time exists. "Living in the moment" requires Time. Without it all there is is static, frozen snapshots. Pure, crystallized consciousness that leaves no time and no space for any movement whatsoever. Which is, actually, exactly how I became aware of the stuff I'm describing here.

@TrynaBeTurquoise Did not use the term to sound cool but because I believed it was the best way to describe what I was experiencing at that time. And it simultaneously sounded cool Now I use other words and phrases that seem appropriate. And yes; I'm still growing and evolving. Who knows what's the next concept or bundle of words I'll let go of in the future and replace them with whatever. Appreciate your input.

@TrynaBeTurquoise There just is no illusion where I'm at. Never really was. I just thought it's a cool term to throw around for a while. It was a short phase. "Illusion this, illusion that". All until the "aha moment". I'm just offering a different way to look at things. Why does that bother you so much? I'm literally only sharing my experience of reality here. If it helps someone; great. If not: awesome. I enjoy writing and sharing here. Of course it's a word-play. Has the potential of pointing one in the right direction tho. And if it's not the particular word-play and mash of concepts you would use... sorry not sorry. I'm not going to use symbols that are more acceptable on this forum just so I wouldn't trigger anyone. I express things as they want to come through naturally.

@LastThursday Sorry, somehow I overlooked your post. Well, considering that this moment before me right now could be labelled as a "memory", my answer is: whatever you decide or choose to believe. As I understand; the "me" that sat on the plane and the "me" that's in Paris are two completely different realities. Different timelines. The one who's on the plane had a different past and has a different future. Same with the one who's in Paris. No correlation whatsoever. What's connecting them and unifies them is Consciousness. That which is conscious of both, and many more. Explaining retrospectively something that you don't really have a "memory" of - meaning you were/are not conscious of "the in-between" can end up looking like anything. I imagine you would probably tune into or pick up on a random bunch of parallel realities and arrange them in your mind in a way that they make some sort of sense to the "current you". Imo; it's not about trusting the memory, or the thought. It's simply about being aware of how things roll Sticking with what seems like the best conscious decision at any given moment. For whatever purpose. Knowing the steps you're taking.

@The Lucid Dreamer If you want to look at it that way, sure. But I'm actually saying it's not an illusion. Time is real and actual. I just pointed out how it's created and why are we experiencing it the way we are. There is no trick. No one is being tricked. Everything is exactly as it is. Therefore there is no illusion. It's merely a matter of becoming aware of what's already going on. Saying that there's no time can be helpful to some on a certain part of their journey - I agree. But it surely is not something to hold onto for too long. It could prevent one from expanding more. What I share is not relevant to all, obviously. We're all at different stages of awakening.

@Consilience No, it's literally how the effect of time-space continuum is created. But I agree on the fact that we're not getting anywhere here Let's drop it politely.

@Consilience To understand what I'm saying here you must step out of time altogether. Merge with Infinity completely. I am not describing anything that's contradicting Infinity. In fact; it's only confirming it. Everything is always happening right NOW. And in order for you to have an experience of time you must shift from one complete reality to another. From one "moment" to another, if you will. But it's always now. No illusion there. It's actually happening; continuously. Literally at the speed of Light.

Amen!

@TheAvatarState Yup, I've seen the movie a while ago. And no, I did not jump to Paris. I don't yet believe I can (fully). But I did experience jumping between timelines on a smaller scale. As well as the total an utter collapse of linearity. It was never intentional though. I am kinda careful when it comes to experimenting with stuff like that. One could say there's still some fear and my nervous system is not quite ready for shifts too big. Do I feel like it can be done tho? Absolutely hell yes. Do I know how to do it? Kinda. I can intuit my way, if you will. But I always "chicken out". I'm sure time will come though when I'll go "all the way". We all do stuff like that in our dreams, all the time. But the rules are different in those realms. Everything is much more "elastic". Bendable.

@Consilience Thank you. There being "an illusion" is a sign of not going deep enough