Inliytened1

You are imaginary as well. Your ego. Can you get a hold of that.

Gnight

My point was that if you can't explain it without awakening yourself than how can you be someone to objectively judge that there is someone more awake than yourself. Do you see how there is no objective reality to awakening- therefore there is not an absolute awakening that everyone has the same way. Thus, there really can't be a guy more awake than you once you've awakened. Here we can agree to disagree. My simple point is that awakening shall be independent of both pyschedelics and meditation. Both are triggers. But awakening is something prior to both. I just don't feel like Leo reached it via psychedelics. If you do - great- but note that it was because you were ready to awake - and it wasn't because of the psychedelics. Same goes for meditation.

Your firsr point i made for you. As for your second - I'm telling you that awakening is something far prior to anything a psychedelic can produce it can thrust you into a non-dual state- but it cannot give you awakening. Those non-dual states are borrowed Consciousness. They are synthetic.

Razard has covered all of what awakening is - as have I. Leo has as well but the problem is he didn't awaken himself. He did so via psychedelics but that ain't awakening. And now he thinks there is something beyond awakening. Beyond all things. Alien consciousness. Well - I hate to break the hard cold truth to you- but take it from someone who actually has awakened from the dream - this is a fiction.

About time you showed up then Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride. But not too much. Many buddahs have crossed this platform, but only one has lived.

If you really want to awaken you won't get lost here. Here is a place to gather to discuss your awakenings - not to get lost in endless chatter about it. It's those who get caught up in the hoopla but fail to actually do the spiritual work that will remain asleep - blind to what could possibly lay outside the matrix.

That's just it. This will always be impossible because there is only your awakening. There will never be an awakening like yours.

Razard is awake. What Leo thinks is irrelevant. Razard has had legit awakenings. This is plain to see.

Can you locate yourself anywhere? No...that should be the first trigger. Now - what do you think you are? A dark void? My God. A void is but a thought.

Elon musk is not known to be wise

Have we narrowed it down yet?

Don't despair. It is all a dream

Very nice 😀 yes I understand.

Yet you know that it is limitless. Isn't that something?

No you are missing it. This is about the structure of reality. The mechanism, if you will. The design. So - how is reality designed? Is it made of atoms or is it made of Mind? Do you see where the distinction is now necessary?

Put it on ice.

I guess we want to make it so. We want to explain Consciousness away with logic. Yet logic is held within Consciousness. So I guess we are screwed. We can pawn it off as alien and all that - but ultimately we have to come back to what it is.

Precisely. That is exactly it. You must break away from the materialist paradigm. The materialist paradigm is like an infestation of the mind. It is a corruption of the mind.

Mind is consciousness. Try and explain that. Any explanation you have is held within it.

It just is.

But what is no thing. No thing must exist no?

This has nothing to do with Leo. Leo is just a figment of your mind. Of your MIND. But reality is Mind- it is consciousness itself. The problem being is that we think it's made of atoms when it's not.

You will never understand or grasp reality this way. Reality is a giant mind. That's indeed what it is. It is self aware. Awareness is paramount to grasping yourself if that is indeed your pursuit. And I know it is. Because you are here. Yes there is no perceiver. And indeed you must cut through that illusion But you will still be left with Mind. It cannot be escaped.

That's a nice explanation. But notice all explanations must be held within your consciousness.