Inliytened1

If we don't use words we don't even have a forum. A forum is a form of entertainment. Reality is a form of entertainment. For God. God is not only a trickster but he's a comedian. If you haven't noticed. Oh and I'm watching Oppenheimer right now - God doesn't play dice 🙄

Are you enlightened?

Yeah thats not what I was saying at all. I simply feel that the word this, while nice, is more neo-advaita then anything else. Because you are assuming there isn't a you, there is only this. But. there is a you, the royal you, with a capital Y. This royal you is not a person, so personal is not a fitting word. And it is not human either. But it is you, nonetheless. And yes, language is dualistic, but we can still find the words that best portray what we are trying to convey. If you like the word this then use it.

That's just it. Anything impersonal is a duality. It suggests a subject- you- observing the object - this.

No one is talking about non-existence. When we say someone is imaginary - it means they exist. It simply means they exist within your own mind - and that all existence dwells within your own mind. There is no existence only beyond your own mind.

@Loveeee If you are trying to bring someone to realize they are completely alone because of Infinity you will fail to do that. One has to become directly conscious of this via psychedelics or meditation. So asking someone if they are conscious of Infinity is not going to get you far. If they are conscious of it, they most certainly don't have to answer to you about it.

Then just say You with a capital Y. You are God. This is not God. You are God.

Haha...only if you call it that.

Can you guys stop locking everything. I think there has never really been a discussion of "this". Let's let it roll...

"THIS" suggests a subject/object duality. It suggests "other" notice that. It suggests someone over here saying that reality is THIS. But i am over here "observing" THIS. THIS is separate from you. You is you. Not this.

Wise man: "There's more to go, you haven't reached the end yet." Buddha: " Hmm..are you me?" Wise man: "I am." Buddha: "then you'll understand when I tell you I've reached God realization"

Let me present yet another perspective. Because yours is simply a perspective- as is Leo's. What if he was just a character implanted in your dream by you, to awaken you - by any means. And that your awakening is completely sovereign. Meaning it does not have to follow his awakening. It is yours. And that once you awaken, be it mediation, spontaneously, or via psychedelics- that your awakening is Absolute. And that Leo can then be dismissed or let go of as simply a breadcrumb leading you to the Absolute.

I get where you are going and I'm telling you awakening is not human - it is Infinite Consciousness. Call that alien if you wish but note that the term is relative. Alien as opposed to what? Human? Ok. Well, what if I told you that "human" is completely imaginary and made up? So are cats, and so are aliens.

There is because God can simply shift forms.

Wouldn't you wanna know the Truth?

Yet you are here trying to knock that wall down. Why? If it's just an abyss who cares? How do you even know I exist somewhere outside of your consciousness? I could simply be a manifestation of your own mind.

That's the beauty of it all. If you don't want it to, it won't.

You can only do it once in this form, my brother. In another form, when I forget all about it, I can do it again. Imagination is all there is friend. If you don't see that - well then - God has done it right. You have done it right. You were able to fool yourself at the highest order.

I'm there! I will arrange your flight and you can come visit to tripsit. Deal?

Interesting. The ego will deny all of it. It wants to stay in the illusion. It's the only way it can endure. So we all have a little of that. I'm talking to you now as I imagine you into existence. He does the same, day after day - though he knows it's all a fugazi. He knows because he has had deep awakenings. But he plays the game like the rest of us. I just think he doesn't yet realize that it's not just Being - without a heart or a mind.

Excellent title. I dig it. But it's not really a valuable part of existence unless you give it value. Consciousness cannot be crippled there is only the illusion that it can.

You are really stuck. May as well join the neo-advaita gang.

Excellent thread overall. Survived a long time. Hopefully the innocents will also.

Typo.

The Truth will hurt you. In fact it will kill you. Don't ruin your life over spirituality lf you actually awaken you will die. You're not ready to come back altered. The funny thing is when Gandalf fell to the Balrog he emerged as Gandalf the White. He was killed and returned. And that's precisely what you must do.