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@Tony 845 Ha..i have pure O too bro and awakened about a month ago. A full awakening. When you become pure being it is cured. It is completely gone because you have pure consciousness. How ironic right? The name pure OCD and pure consciousness and how they cancel eachother out. Its gone because you have complete certainty and you are everything. Even a deeply enlightened person doesn't walk around forever in this state because in truth thats death. So as your small self after being enlightened (because you do come back changed) your OCD will be drastically better..why? Because your consciousness has increased even as your small self. And you are more self aware. Your OCD gets weaker and less pure. You can identify it immediately and shoot it down and with mediation it really gets weak. Initially when i returned to my ego my OCD tried to make me doubt that what i experienced was real even though i had mystical experience and non duality experience after non duality experience one after another after another for a week straight..waking up in the middle of the night etc. I mean i was fucking still trying to tell myself that spirituality wasn't real after all that so i needed to ground myself in meditation immediately following...because someone with OCD can be prone to really bad ego backlash especially since no one around you would really believe or understand which only feeds the OCD (Everyone i know is a materialist and either blue or orange) as was i before i stumbled onto spirituality and only gave it an open mind after seeing Leos addiction videos and intuitively sensing this was right after spending decades trying to find peace looking outwards and running from the sense of emptiness and uncertainty that OCD feeds you....but oh how things come full circle don't they? Message me if you want to discuss further

@Elysian Thats exactly right. But its even deeper than that. That's why i don't consider OCD - the doubt disorder - to be an illness. It's just as much an illness as it is a gift. If you truly have OCD you also have a direct sense into the gateless gate. For that is what OCD is. You sense the uncertainty of the nothingness. That's why i believe you can become enlightened much easier (without pyschedelics) as with what happened with me. All the pieces must be in place of course. Having OCD is just part of it. For me it was decades of running unconsciously from the nothingness and the OCD although paradoxically sensing i needed to run towards it...to look inward and be the emptiness. So those with OCD do not despair for you have the keys to the gateless gate. You just have to find it. On a less deep note the others all make valid points. In order to manage your OCD you have to be self aware and aware of when the obsessive thoughts come up..to let them pass and remember they are not you and are illusory. This is the essence of mediatation and self actualization anyway. Its just a shame most OCD sufferers don't even know what they have and even if they do they believe that their thoughts are them and real and the guilt of their thoughts will slice through their being. So meditation and self awareness are the keys to managing OCD.

@Elysian HI Elysian, this is excellent advice. I was going to advise him on the Do Nothing Meditation, but it sounds like you have a lot more knowledge than I do. I've had Pure OCD my entire life, which is thought obsessions, with no physical compulsions. It's like torture. On the other hand, I've always had a very hightened intuition about consciousness and non-duality, so when I found spirituality and actualized.org, within a few weeks of mediation I experienced awakening and liberation. It was the most amazing thing I have ever experienced in my life. Enlightenment alone will bring your OCD to much loser levels, but it won't get rid of it completely - that said with the practice he specifies above you can probably get to complete liberation from OCD or at least so low that it is pretty much just something small in the backround that comes up here and there but is very tolerable. As he says though, it must be incorporated into your lifestyle for the rest of your life (the meditation practices) to keep these illnesses away.

@Leo Gura One thing i think people get confused with is yes that's true from the perspective of the absolute, consciousness,the higher self, the godhead, (and of course if you watched Leo's video there are many names for it) but in essence, your true self. Don't get that confused with the partitioned consciousness, the small self that is your ego. From there you are one perspective and reality is relative. You are in a "dream" which is consciousness - so everything in the dream is just that. Your mother is still your mother, but you don't have access FROM YOUR perspective to her consciousness, to her memories, otherwise you would no longer be YOU, and you would be HER. So when these things are discussed we should be careful from which perspective we are talking about. The absolute, or the part! What happened with Akuma is he got a glimpse of his true self - and it's fucking majestic, beautiful, beyond words, and terrifying at the same time. it's like DAMN, whole shit, I AM EVERYTHING. Then you sync back into your ego and it's like, wtf?

A nice example of Relativity.

It's funny because the paradox of enlightenment is that sometimes as was with me before my enlightenement due to lack of consciousness I wanted the money but afterwards and during I actually thought about that and it feels like you won every lottery there is.. But you won the lottery of life itself not of money. You won consciousness. And money exists within consciousness. So what you won is just so much deeper than money. The materialist would choose money everytime because they simply don't have the consciousness to see what is truly fulfilling in life This realization can actually bring you to tears especially if you were at orange for so long. So it's more than just a dumb question it's a actually a very interesting one. The answer lies in your perspective and hence level of consciousness.

@SBB4746 nailed! Funny thing is pure consciousness has to be so rare that it might be 1 in a billion people. Even the most enlightened people still have shit lingering somewhere. So you would never actually know if you met the guy.

@Joseph Maynor @Joseph Maynor You mean the fact that I am indeed an idea as well and not real? There is in fact no difference. And I became conscious of this the week I became enlightened. And on the day of that realization and true consciousness of my true being I basically went from complete bliss to feeling dead inside. Not sure how to even describe the despair of that moment of realization other than to say see my post on stomaching the truth. Ego backlash resulted.

@Joseph Maynor correct. There is only the idea or concept of the body which exists within consciousness. How did this come about? That is what the great mind which is all of infinity simply mustered up. It's the same question as to why there is a tree or why there is existence. Infinity is everything....

@Joseph Maynor There isn't... The body exists within consciousness as well.

Absolutely.. I believe it was actually my longing for my ex (combined with a lot of other factors that all came together) that actually helped bring about my ultimate enlightenment. It was such intense suffering over a 5 year span that liberation for me was the ultimate release.

@TheAvatarState @TheAvatarState Dont be so sure! Maybe not in person.....

Lol.. Society exists within consciousness silly.

@tecladocasio yes... Those at the highest levels can live completely ordinary lives... They don't necessarily have to but they might. In fact they probably will be much more on the simpler and more minimalist side than to the contrary. That said that doesn't mean they aren't aware of everything and can't mentor another person.. It all depends on whether or not that's something that they desire to do. Alternatively some people although deeply enlightened may not have the consciousness to actually teach. It's actually something they haven't developed yet.

Your probably not going to get a ton of replies to this because most of us here so I've noticed are enlightened. So.. Myself? I'm not trying to be arrogant but once you reach a certain level you no longer look up to anyone else... Not because you are better but because you are conscious. Your Conscious that there is no one else but yourself. So umm...

A giant mindfuck. Literally it is a giant mind so just add the fuck part!

You are partitioned consciousness. Why is consciousness partitioned? Again God cannot experience everything without partitioning itself.

Leo I'm in Chicago so would love for you to come there sometime in 2019.

exactly -- you seem to have a good grasp of it and an open mind so i think it will happen to you if you continue down the path.

@TheAvatarState Good points!

Yes i sure have, i responded to your other post just now...

NO - you are ABSOLUTELY right....skip all the mumbojumbo BS and know this: Pure being - becoming being itself, cannot be put into words, so you are right - it just HAPPENS. (your point to clicks on it's own) All the other stuff helps get your mind quiet enough and open enough to where it can just happen. And when it happens, words cant fucking describe it.. You will just drop to your knees and say "Oh my fucking god" "oh my fucking god" over and over and over.

@Yousef Because infinity is everything............... EVERYTHING. Everything means every POSSIBLE thing - one of which is the illusion of your ego. ...and "nothing" (can't put a word on that really) and the computer in front of you, and the sky, and on and on and on. It might seem like a shallow, woo woo answer - but once you get an actual "hit" of absolute infinity through enlightment, it becomes very apparent.

Ahh, but to understand this, you must understand infinity itself - it is ALL possibilities. Your ego, my friend, is one possibility. It is infinity/GOD, making itself forget that it's infinity in order to become one possibility. One perspective. In that way the "great mind" of reality can "be" in all of it's infinite ways. The questions you are asking are coming from the perspective of YOUR ego, so of course you would ask those questions! If infinity wasn't infinity, there wouldn't be a YOU asking THESE QUESTIONS!

I was watching one of Leo's videos, specifically on society accepting psychedelics and something dawned on me. Let me preface this that a few weeks ago i experienced enlightment and a non-dual mystical experience the likes of which I have never ever before experienced. Everything I believed as materialist changed in an instant. The whole experience lasted a week, and got so deep that i understood everything about the universe, a complete understanding as Leo has described in his experience with absolute infinity. But then, it REALLY sunk in - it became all too real - and I hit my knees as I truly understood what Leo meant by the question - can you stomach the truth? I was of course looking at just one side of the coin - the nothingness side of the coin - but it still hit me hard that we were in a dream and of no physical substance. After that I experienced Ego backlash the likes of which was off the charts. I have continued to meditate but i have not been able to achieve the same types of experiences, although with music i can achieve very brief mystical experiences. I believe my ego could not stomach it, and completely shut it down. So this my friends is the ultimate question. Even if we legalize pyschedelics and everyone becomes enlightened - will they be able to stomach the truth? Could it be that that's why this hasn't become the mainstream yet, and could it be possible that it might never? That society will try to cover this up for thousands of years to come? Leo specifically mentioned that there are negative aspects to pyschedelics as you go deep inside yourself, and you have to be mentally prepared for it. Some even might not be able to stomach it at all and could potentially take their lives. So as wonderful as the truth is, and I agree with leo that we need to know the truth so that we can self-actualize and continue our consciousness work for the remainder of our lives and separate ourselves from our ego until our ego is basically locked up in a small prison cell until our death. This may have been what was supposed to be the destiny of mankind, but if you notice even in Leo's videos of late he is starting to realize the "realness" of the whole thing and part of it can be hard to handle. So my question is, can mankind really stomach the truth? Many I believe can, but many i believe cannot and will not. Even if everyone becomes enlightened, once they become deep enough enlightened when the real truth actually sinks in it may be so hard to stomach that their ego will completely shut it down, preferring to live in a false reality over the truth of reality. That, friends, is the ultimate question.