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When you have a mystical experience that reveals or makes you conscious of Truth directly, it is Actual. There is no denying it. Yes Preetom is right that all of this is just talk it's not direct experience. But with what limited tools we have to explain Truth (our maps) we can only point to it. When you have the direct experience you will know. Don't even take my word it can be discovered for yourself.

@1liamo78 you cannot grasp Infinity with the mind. You can only become it. Because you ARE it.

@Shin from a content or formed / scienctific perspective yes we know it's a collapsed star that warps spacetime and not even light can escape. But from a metaphysical standpoint it's no different than your banana! It's just mind stuff

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@traveler this is an excellent question - the answer to which i only became conscious of with my last mystical experience. Or as you call it, becoming Being. Remember Being is the formlessness of Infinity. But you are being Infinity right now as your persepctive - which is the formed - or a finitude of Infinity. Both are One in the end. When you fully awaken you are at a different level of consciousness than before you awoke. You are fully conscious all the time that everything is One. That you are God and everyone around you is you but that they are you exploring yourself from a different perspective. You still need to create dualities though, to interact with the formed, or in other words with reality. God needs dualities or form in order to explore itself. So you are able to have both perspectives at once. It is the unity of the form and the formless. It takes integration. When you first awaken it will feel like your going insane - and in my case experience some depression about the Oneness - but once you can integrate both perspectives and accept that all is One it is very liberating and wonderful. As far as fear of becoming Being, that is normal, your Ego doesn't want to let go as it want's to survive at all costs. But keep meditating and it will happen naturally when the time is right.

Have you all thought about which paradigm you subscribe to? I think a lot of the arguments that happen on the forum boil down to Materialists and/or rationalists arguing with Idealists. Some of us may not even be aware what we are until we sit down and really ponder it. If you are not sure what the difference between the two are: Materialists believe there is an objective world, and that consciousness is happening inside the brain. This objective world is made of atoms and molecules. The Idealist, such as myself, believes (in my case as a former Materialist i know from direct experience) that this is actually not what's going on here at ALL. In fact, there is no objective world. Reality is not made of matter. Reality is instead a Mind. It is Infinite and thus it is conscious and aware. The substance of which is Nothing. All the content - everything you see - is happening within the Mind. If you don't feel comfortable discussing your paradigm that's fine. But you should have one. Or at least sit down and think about how you view the world. Once you realize the Idealist paradigm is the True one, and again this is from my direct experience, then all of a sudden a lot of doors that were closed to you now open. Mysticsm becomes possible, because reality is a Mind and not dumb matter. Would love to get all of your thoughts. Also remember Leo's teachings are of the Idealist Paradigm. There are plenty of other idealists out there teaching or writing books on this stuff as most of you guys know. But really sit down and think to yourself. Have you ever thought about what paradigm you subscribe to? Or are you some hybrid of the two? Because that means maybe you need to take an inner look to see what your true viewpoints are.

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@Monkey-man your own egoic mind is that devil. Make sure to make that connection and not think the devil is some external or objective entity out there somewhere.

Keep in mind that when we discuss paradigms were are discussing from a dualistic perspective. God can't have any discussions with himself without the creation of dualities. So Zero you speak from the highest of perspectives. But we still need dualities.

@Inder Hi there. You need a balance of both. That's what meditation is for. Meditation will connect you with the present moment and Being. The fear of emptiness and other fears are deceptions of the ego so be aware of that and dismiss them. But the more you connect with Being through Meditation and also trying not to dwell too long in concepts in your everyday life - find that balance and bring yourself back into the present moment, the closer towards Liberation you will be.

@Oi Luffy At a metaphysical level black holes are no different than your coffee table. It is yet more content within reality. If you want to talk about the content, from that level, then you can go into a scientific explanation, etc. But black holes are like anything else inside reality. Note - inside reality -

@zeroISinfinity its amazing. To discover it is the Miracle of all Miracles. And just when you think that the word Amazing can capture God/Yourself, think again and he will amaze you yet again in a whole new dimension. That's infinity. That's God. That's you.

Bravo Zero. The biggest discovery is you are God/Infinity/Reality. You can even become conscious that Leo is just an idea in your mind. But that's from from God's perspective or from the Giant Minds perspective. It's you looking down at your creation. That's when you really realize this whole fucking thing is One. It's a real mind bender. Any notions of the Materialist paradigm will melt away. Its a much higher level, or gear, if you will, of consciousness then the normal one though. If you were a materialist and have a mystical experience of enough depth to where you are shown certain Truths, a paradigm shift will ensue as you integrate back into your Ego.

The beauty can't be put into words but it will bring you to tears.

@Shin i do. I have been serious all day lemme joke around a little.

@Joseph Maynor i tried. I keep falling assleep meditating.

@Joseph Maynor your still missing it Joseph. These aren't his teachings. You can become conscious of this We're not joking around about this you can ACTUALLY become conscious of this! He and you are identical. Literally not figuratively. You are both the same mystic. Your teaching yourself. Its all One thing!

@Shin You would be exactly who you are right now. Just a little more conscious and with a few more bananas.

@UDT Indeed but your destroying will be done in a conscious way. There's a difference. You will Love even that which you destroy. Its all you whether its carved out or not. Form and Formless must unite into One. One Oneness.

@now is forever because your perspective is a part of God's perspective. But you are still infinity. Your also God's perspective as well. Your both the finger and the hand. I like that analogy it makes it easier to understand.

Both possibilities can happen. Afterall, you are Infinite. Infinity is awe inspiring.

I think its a huge step in your growth if you can be honest. It's key.

@SoonHei very nice

@Anderz he's babbling all kinds of nonsense. Just take in what i said if you can.

@Anderz Sorry i gotta get the quote thing figured out. Haven't had time. But yes Inifnity IS the present moment. The present moment is the formless and you can literally become it. Its Being. But you are being infinity now as your perspective. But you are the formed. You are a finitude of infinity.