Inliytened1

You act like you have no attachments to this world but you do. I can easily tell because you use this forum. So something still makes you care. Otherwise you would starve as Ramana did in an endless state of samadhi. So don't sit here and preach to us like the you isn't there when it clearly still is. Its not a game to prove. When it permanently drops you won't be here.

Bullshit excuse. If he raped your daughter you would do something with your will.

Are you not going to lock up a rapist or let them run rampant.

In your words I see the brilliance of God. And you can see through the ego and see the trickery that is that brilliance. That is intelligence. The bird has a level of intelligence only necessary for survival. God gave humans a special gift - the ability to awaken. Could there be freak birds out there with insane intelligence? Maybe. But they can't communicate with us so that should tell you something.

Not antrophocentric he says its all God doing it and we have no free will. This is true in the sense that there is no difference between us and God but that also negates the belief we have no free will. If we are the universe then the will of the universe and our own is one. Now the question really becomes what @LEarn was talking about. Where is the ability to reason. I think this would be lost with species with lesser minds than humans. Because they lack the ability to self reflect. If you want to get deep you can also admit this is something you can only assume because you cannot confirm they' have consciousness.

Yes I have but I have it all the time waking and dreaming. What was your exact experience can you describe?

I removed my last response because I think I acted on emotions. The thing is if you seek you actually will seek yourself out of existence. That's actual spirituality. But no one wants to do it. The psyche patient gets banished because maybe they've seen a glimpse but the doctors haven't and its not accepted. The spiritual teacher does it in a crafty way so that is accepted in society. Acceptance in society is critical in the world we live in. But if you actually dive deep enough you will find.

@Hojo this is correct and yet the illusion remains that we have a will and in so we do have a will..just the same as it is all imagination and yet because there is nothing else this becomes reality by default. We feel like we are making the choice to go left or right so what is the difference then between us and God. As long as we feel and think we are doing it isn't this as good as we are doing it even if absolutely speaking it is the Universe? And now you get to the punch line. If that is the case then perhaps there is no difference between us and the universe.

You have yet to understand the paradox and how it comes full circle. Nothing is eternal and nothing is creator yet you profoundly cry against it. So what then is that which can oppose it. @james123 doesn't have the answer nor do you.

@Leo Gura there is something wrong with the website sometimes it takes a long time to access the site please fix.

Interesting. I guess we will never know. Enter solipsism

Yes. True friendship is actually invaluable. Invaluable. Because it takes both parties wanting nothing more than the love for one another. That's friendship and its hard to come by.

Ahh yes. God's will roots in selflessness while a finite Being's will roots in selfishness. But yeah I see your point in the caterpillar's will. It still wants to do something it just doesnt have the ability to grasp that it is. So what is will then. Is it realizing it? Interesting question.

Right so the question is do people socialize for an egoic gain or do they just do it. In ALL cases it's has egoic gain in some way. Even if its just to not be alone. Nothing wrong with that but you can see where it can lead.

Yes but most beings don't possess will. A caterpillar doesnt possess will.

Isness what we become when strip everything away. Being. And in that isness is God/Truth/Love/Infinity/Nothingness.

Infinite intelligence has it all in its hands without anything. The entire universe - your fate and mine - constructed within an instant. Omniscience. Its power cannot be comprehended. But a caterpillar turning into a butterfly or a dog marking its territory- this is a very low level of intelligence (instinct). It does not require much because it is already part of the grander scheme.

Isness. Now that's something. It can't really be named.

Everyone needs something. Just keep that in mind. That is the OP's point i think.

Welcome.

They are all necessary for survival but health is first- then finances, then relationships. The ego often ignores health and goes for power and relations often comes with power. You can't be isolated and have power. You have to rule over someone.

Does this mean the wiser play the game less?

Intelligence is very mystical and magical as is Consciousness.

How is that the ego could distort your perception of the ego when it is you. There would be no you. The raw sensations of life..colors, shapes, feelings. Smells. All of that is raw reality without an ego.

Ramana Maharshi. Who else. Solipsism is Truth. It's just too hard to swallow. Who else.