Inliytened1

I shall report back for sure

I have some thoughts but I want to hear yours. Girls too.

No I meant the women. They have to be on board with what you are proposing. And then not jump ship later. You say you can captain the ship adequately but I fear there could be mutiny rather quickly. Just saying as we start to dive deeper into the intricate nature of this. You have little direct experience. I have a lot more than you here.

Only if they are on board. And that is going to be difficult. They might start out like that but it is going to get tricky as emotions get involved.

Yes you are excellent at being non-biased and open minded. This is a super power so use it wisely. I think we both agree that monogamy fails. But I think this is due to the man's carnal instinct not the woman. A woman can be good with one partner. Now you say you are bisexual so I do not know where this fits in but I would think a gay man would even be more sensitive. So tread carefully.

@LordFall and you have to take a hard look at whether this is what you want. Because whenever there are multiple people involved there is going to be the existence of love so you have to take that into consideration. It is going to be there whether we want to wish it away or not. I wish it wasn't. But remember that is what messed one of my biggest relationships up. The one where she set up the threesome. The porn industry is completely empty. Completely empty.

@LordFall no in all seriousness it was a good conversation hopefully it opened your eyes a bit. Because you aren't as heartless as your model would indicate. When I got really heartless I saw yours come out.

Heck just wait. You ain't seen nothing yet. So in a monogamous relationship, and @LordFall i welcome your comments. There has lo be a dominant one. In most cases, believe it or not, its the woman. So she's gonna dictate things. She isn't using you per se. But understand that this behavior of theirs never improves. It only gets worse.

I just wanna fuck. I mean rock.

I guess you'll have to screw enough women and men to know. Right? I can tell you what I have found. You can tell me what you have.

I know you like to define things. So do I. So you can have a clear cut picture in your mind. But there are certain things you can't define. If you fuck her just right, hit her in just the right spot. She's bagged. Is that infatuation? Of course not. Because there has to be a starting point prior to that. Common sense. Can you define what it is that grabs her? Probably not. You would have to really dive down. Which part of your penis touched which part of her vagina? Who the fuck knows. But she's hooked.

I was just saying if we have a girl locked is it infatuation or is it love? Or what's the difference? I think it is love. Not Absolute Love, but human love. From there she can become obsessed or whatever. But love is the core. This was really aimed at @Joshe post

None of this quantifies Love and you know this. Dictionary definitions do not cut it.

I've been trying to do that for years 😩 but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Is it the high of love or infatuation? We are not debating my past. We are debating that. Your model completely dismisses love, so it seems. We exposed that when you expressed feelings for someone while claiming multiple partners is the best way to go

I don't have deconstruct it I know what it feels like. And..yeah obsession and infatuation are symptoms in my opinion. I have had girls in love with me become obsessed. But that is a byproduct

You guys are missing love here

Well it has a long fucking shelf life in some cases.

Well..you haven't had a threesome yet correct? I can tell you it's all it's cracked up to be and then some.

Well..this brings us back now. What is it? Is it the touch? Is it the orgasm? Is it hitting the right spot? All I can tell you is you will have her completely locked in if you do it right. Nothing to fear.

I can tell you right now, being with both types, that it will only work with certain personalities. Those personalities will have no problem with anything. Not checking in. Nothing. They will be fine with it. If you have to check in you're not the right personality type for this type of relationship. Because I've been with swingers and non-swingers and they are completely different personality types. So if it's all one type I think you don't need that many rules if any. Will people get upset with some feelings coming up? Yeah..but it will be mild.

@LordFall no matter how you slice it...you are not gonna be able to avoid feelings. Feelings for a person will be involved. That's what makes polygamy so hard. But monogamy doesn't work either because we all want to fuck other people.

What isn't hard to quantify. Reality is hard to quantify. It's an Absolute Relativity. No. When you're in love as a woman I think it is obvious. A magnetic force takes over.

That misses the whole point. So, by lock we have established means falling in love. If they fall in love with you but wait for another option would that be love?

Gotcha. Sorry I got a phone call. Yeah im just trying to wrap my mind around this whole dynamic. I mean..you want multiple partners but yet you don't want them to do certain things. Like you said, it gets tricky. But..I am totally in favor of it. I think monogamy is a complete failure on multiple levels.