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You made my case then. If imaginary vs real collapse there is nothing. Right ? So is other still there after there is nothing? No man..there's just Being. That's all that was there and that's all that will ever be. Being. And Being is right now. So anything we can safely say is held within Being. That is duality and form. Its form. It's imaginary. Real vs imaginary is relative to certain definitions of what you consider real and imaginary to be. But in the Absolute sense imaginary means form.

If you read my post I said with awakening or enlightenment you will see that other is imaginary and held within your own mind. That's just what I'm claiming find out for yourself.

Bur you can see for yourself that other is imaginary no different from self. It's awakening.

Other is in your present moment now. And when you awaken the duality of self and other does collapse. So we can talk about it all day but ultimately it will be revealed with awakening. Both self and other is in your present moment even now.

Agreed

Haha. Love that. You are the buddah. So when you see him on the side of the road spare him. Hes you.

That is where you want to be but you haven't done it long enough for enlightenment. For you it could take years of doing this and not leaving this state. Many monks have sit and tried for decades. I was lucky.

Humor me here because I want to do a little self inquiry. Don't just dismiss and say you are a man but now let's think of the metaphysical sense. No. Don't just skip over that because in that is actual awakening. You're conceptualizing by browsing over it. No. Sit down in meditation and dispel the notion that you are a man. What is a man? What does it mean? Does it mean someone with a penis or is it an idea in your mind of a masculine entity. Is it an entity behind the eyes that's masculine vs feminine? For me I thought I was this, this entity behind the eyes. A soul. But when I realized that this was an idea or a thought it hit me that the me was a total illusion. This spawned enlightenment. So don't brush over this. Enlightenment is not conceptual as you are explaining it to be. It will be actual.

Ok let's do this haha. Let's break it down. Is reality consciousness? Because if it is now we don't have other people we have other consciousnesses. All selves are an illusion there is just pure Consciousness there. So look! Does the moon exist out there without any "body" conscious of it? How can that be..it just exists without anyone conscious of it? Seems impossible So then back to these separate consciousnesses. Does one end when the body dies or do they all just become separate formlessness after? If so where are they? How are they separate if space is imaginary? Isn't "where" a term we can't use here? Ok so they just are. And it doesn't make any logical sense. But then that would mean we can't understand Absolute Truth. But if we are God who else would be able to finally understand it?

Going insane is a part of discovering Absolute Truth. In the sense that you will die and your mind as an ego will be gone - so when you return you should feel proud that you have emerged again and that sense of who you are was able to return. I like to equate it to Gandalf returning from the dead after his battle with the Balrog. He returned not as Gandalf the Grey but as Gandalf the White. Embrace Absolute Truth and the price you pay for Absolute Truth. So yes loving this will help you accept and embrace it. Right now the problem you have, which everyone has, is the fear of death. But enlightenment will liberate you from the fear of death. And this includes the fear of losing your mind. But don't push yourself. If your ego isn't ready for it yet then that's just fine. There is no reason to push the issue just enjoy life.

I get that but still- for you to function, to work and hold a job - to do anything and function as a human in society, there is a sense of you in there. That sense of you is what dissolves with awakening. You believe you are whatever you believe you are and don't tell me that you just walk around existing and the body just moves for you because then you are going to sound just like these neo-advaitan morons who have twisted everything around and didn't actually awaken. There is a sense of self there whether you want to admit that to me or not. The opposite is something called Depersonalization disorder which is actually almost identical to awakening. Do you have that? No.

You do not want to realize the collapse of self and other. It is horrifying. Because you will realize that you are completely alone and that is a radical recontextualization of everything you have ever known. You will spend the rest of your life as an ego forgetting about awakening. And desperately wanting other to be real, and so it is On the flip side there is massive bliss and tears and love and Divinity. But ego death is a part of it and it cannot be helped. Ego death and the realization that you are God is a double edged blade.

But what is the definition of simultaneous? It is multiple things happening at the same time. But you see, time and space, and language and the word simultaneously...all of that is being imagined by Consciousness or God. All of that is fabricated. So you can't use finite tools or finite words within the dream to capture the dream itself - as it is Infinite. It's like asking for proof of Infinity when proof is a subset of infinity. Same thing here. So simultaneously or time is a subset. If you actually sit down and do self inquiry you can actually discover through a shift in consciousness that you are not a self but rather you are the whole of Consciousness itself. You are both self, AND other. Psychedelics and meditation are ways to break out of the subset but they are loopholes that God left for you. You'll never be able to use a subset of Infinity to capture Infinity. You just must actually become Infinity.

Healthcare sucks in this country I don't condone but I empathize with the American people. We can't go around killing them but something needs to change

There is no brain man! All of that is part of the dream. Exactly what you said at the end. So why all the fuss? If you shift your consciousness are you aware of these sensations in your brain? No! You need to sit there and deconstruct the brain with your consciousness while meditating. Perform self inquiry and it will do just that.

I hope it was a sesame bagel with cream cheese? Anyways as @Hojo said as this is your dream the kundalini and the awakening is just evidence of this. But these spiritual Truths are a good thing. They are a blessing. So don't look at them as anything bad. The dream is a wonderful expression of you, God. Of course you havent had a complete awakening yet so don't take what I say on faith. You have bagels. Still you had significant realizations that should give you faith. Did you feel the Divine Bliss of God during your awakenings? That bagel is a very beautiful thing and you will never look at it the same again. You'll never look at anything the same. A sunset. A coke can. A bagel. A squirrel. An owl. A tree. A sidewalk. Your mother. Your father. All of it - you're seeing all of it as completely divine now and you're correct - it is God. So the love will come. It is all a manifestation of God and Consciousness. And Mind. It is absolutely glorious and you should bask in it.

You don't just feel the movement. You have a sense of self, an identity. Have you ever performed self inquiry? There is something you hold within as to what you currently believe you are. When it comes to you what do you actually believe you are? The body? The soul? What do you think you are? Can you pinpoint it?

You seem to get arousal from power or men in power. The right has won the election so they have power. So it seems that you are aroused from that. It's not much different to wanting to be dominated or someone that is into dominance or being submissive.

About time.

That's good but you're not going to control the flow ultimately there will be a lot of crazy shit.

Why? Why can't you be awareness thinking your a self or an objective thing called the self. That is enlightenment. Let me ask you this. What do you think you are right now? Truly? The person answering this question. You have a feeling of some identity answering this. What is that identity? That's the you that you think you are.

The question is, can it be happening simultaneously. The problem is at the Absolute sense there is no time. Everything happens now. Right now in the present moment. And there is only one now. Any other nows are you imagining them. Why would God go though all that juggling of a billion, a gazillion existences simultaneously when there is no time or space to put them in. And it's not necessary. And even for him infinite juggling would probably suck.

@Someone here@Razard86 the funny thing is that Solpsism/Truth is so hard to touch that on most days i can simply barely touch it with my consciousness. Barely. And that's on most days. That's because the need for the dream and self and other has to be so real. It is almost impossible to touch Absolute Truth on a daily basis unless without an actual awakening in which your dead anyway. So most days it's very hard to grasp, but even the faintes grasp of it is beautiful. Have to work hard to be lucid because it's so much easier to just get lost in here. That's what we would rather do. But it's just a very elaborate illusion.

I couldn't have said it better myself...wait......

It is walked alone. It must be. It cannot be any other way. There must be certain Truths that no one else will understand. For you hold them deep within you. They cannot begin to understand without being you. Yet the irony is they are you. They are a reflection of your mind in some specific way. Each individual a broken off fragment of your Consciousness. Just waiting to be known.