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@iTommy yes i knew what you meant thats what i was trying to convey to him.

@Mikael89 a mystical experience isn't an experience. This is a bad word for it because words can't capture it! You literally collapse into Being (which you always were) but minus the ego. You die dude! And then you are reborn! It's quite amazing!

@SoonHei exactly!! But you can call that whatever you want..its just a word or a duality..call it Awakening or Enlightenment, or don't call it anything. Call it becoming aware that you are awareness. Call it the illusion discovering its an illusion. Call it God being God. We can go on and on with duality. Its basically God enlightening himself - and their are stages - it's Not a person as he stated.

It can be stated that Enlightenment is Truth, or God. One is already enlightened or being Infinity/God/Being right now. It matters not whether they are Being (formlessness - form/ego) or if they are the ego/form/content within Being or Infinity (or a part or finitude of infinity) its all One. But keep in mind that as the form you have forgotten you are formless. You did this to yourself because there was no where else to go. No where else to escape. You can become conscious and discover that you are the formless. It doesn't change that you were One the whole time. But at the same time it allows you to know yourself through yourself and rediscover and create yourself over and over forever. So by forgetting, or limiting, you are virtually escaping yourself. How ingenious!

@tecladocasio that's you projecting. I'm just stating what is.

@tecladocasio he needs not respond. He is me. You have much to learn as you are only seeing one side or the coin.

@tecladocasio no one said that. Do not limit infinity.

Indeed. This is why it is said that one is already enlightened. Which isn't quite right either because it is from one relative perspective. Well said. Enlightenment is a duality The Absolute is the Absolute. Part of duality is the duality becoming aware that it is non-duality. Reality turning in on itself.

And the reason it is within the whole is because it cannot reach outside to grasp the whole. Finity cannot grasp infinity. That's mario stuck in the video game. He just doesn't know he's a mystic yet. But Mario is a part of the game, and still the whole game.

@tecladocasio not nonsense my good man. Think about it. All is One. Duality is division into parts. Parts are part of the whole part still the whole. You can look at it as a part but its actually within the whole. Yet all is still One. Both perspectives are true simultaneously.

@Gili Trawangan it'll happen then

@Gili Trawangan also i think you have to be at a stage of development in your life where you as the ego have adapted and grown through suffering. And release any clinging to beliefs. Natural consciousness growth. Combine that with mysticism and oh boy.

@Gili Trawangan meditation and self inquiry which led to mystical experiences that led to much higher levels of consciousness. How long have you been meditating and what techniques?

Being/Absolute infinity/consciousness/God/formlessness/nothingness/You It is itself for Eternity. It is itself so much that there is no where to go, no where to escape. So much so that it bursts into illusion/form/duality/limitation. It is all it can do. It is all you can do. You must continually discover yourself to Eternity. You must simply, BE.

@Aldo he would most likely slowly try to transition himself out of it. Maybe write some books on enlightenment or find another source of income. Or if he preferred he would evolve his business into a stage yellow business. He would evolve either way.

@tecladocasio we're into the strange loop of reality now....

@tecladocasio indeed. From the perspective of Being. The no perspective perspective. Pure potential is nothingness and everything simultaneously. Just depends on how you view it. But there ARE Absolutes that you as the illusory ego can become conscious of. The formed becoming conscioisness of its own formlessness. Reality is a strange loop.

@DrewNows i like it mate

@tecladocasio i think maybe an easier way to put it is that you as the ego can become more conscious with certain realizations. Mystical experiences will reveal different realizations about reality. One will most likely not have all realizations with one mystical experience. It's too much. These realizations are Absolutes. There is only One Absolute but it has many facets. You will become more and more conscious as you have more realizations.

Enlightenment and non-enlightenment are dualities.

@WHO IS ahh...but you see that's the magic of Reality. You are form and so am i. The simple fact that you are form means you are a particular way, just like I'm a "particular" way. We are our own perspectives. We are a particular possibility playing out or being carved out. But at the same time you are still formlessness. Your still the whole thing. A part is still the whole simultaneously. It's just how one wants to look at it. What perspective one takes. Reality is an Absolute relativity. Becoming conscious of that may require Awakening - you have to collapse your form, the ego, into Being, or pure potential.

@ajasatya right. Awareness is reality. And it's what you are. And awareness is made of nothing. Its formless. So whether formlessness creates the illusion of form thru limitation or remains in a state of formlessness doesn't matter. "Reincarnation" in itself is an illusion. All is One.

@Enlightenment notice i didn't say Being was an experience. Ego calls it that.

@Bill W Meditation hours not posts.