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Yeah but I also know that this is a dream so it can't be. You are God lost in a dream. That's all reality is. Consciousness can shift states. It can morph into anything it wants. A butterfly. Or a human. Right now it's a human.

Ya think?

That's disinformation. SSRis can be very helpful when prescribed properly

@Sincerity Solpsism is a terrible word and really doesn't explain things very well. It actually scares people away. Oneness is a much better description. Solipsism came into the discussion regarding non-duality because honestly it makes sense given non-duality. But the case was oneness in other words everything and everyone was in your mind so how to verbalize this properly? Well while the problem was there, there were no solipsists at that time to back up any sort of theory on Solpsism. And so it just became something to be discussed over on Leo's forum. But that's really it. A silly term but it really signifies something powerful. That self/other duality.

@theleelajoker haha. Magic is around you all the time. Even now. Awakening isn't going to be given to you obviously. You'll have to work for that. But it is promising. I can tell you that. More promising than a 401k or a retirement plan. Although right now these things seem to be all that matters. There is, still, another side

It is. But you can come back.

@theleelajoker well then nothing my friend. Life goes on. But there is liberation. And in so the fear of death has been vanquished.

@Someone here this whole thing is a dream and one can awaken from it. Thus seeing that the eyes they looked through was an illusion to begin with! They were really the whole thing! Both self and other!

Is that a given? No. It's not sadly. Look I wish I could agree with you in every way. But I'm afraid your case simply isn't provable with physical evidence. You can talk about it. But that's pretty you much all it will be. It's your opinion

Well nice of you to define enlightenment for us. Thank you sir.

You still can't explain reality then. You can't prove other experiences exist and yet you sit here and tell me they can. Prove it then! Mad scientist! Prove it if you have such a winning answer! Let see what you got.. I promise you it's not a lot.

Wishful thinking. Really contemplate reality. I mean really. In the Absolute sense there can't be other. We agree. So in the relative sense are they really some physical object made of atoms or are they figments of your imagination as God? Might be too scared to think the latter.

Well his personal antics ultimately effect the government. We're screwed for the next four years unless you want to get into politics. Which I don't see you doing due to health issues. For me i could care less. These fools aren't enlightened and never will be. It's like beating a dead horse. I gave up long ago and now I'm just along for the ride. Its a lot easier to accept that way. You will do the same in time. Besides, it's your dream. All of it. You created the entire thing right down to the smell of Donald Trump's shoes. So I hope you like the dream.

That is absolutely right and it is total. There is no "other" that is necessary or anything outside of what is direct experience. This is it.

You seem very sure of this yet you cannot prove that there are other areas outside of your direct consciousness. There is only - and I empathize - there is ONLY - your direct consciousness or awareness. That is all you have and it is all you ever will have because there is nothing more.

@Breakingthewalli do love you man. Only here can i literally take a full week off and pick up right where I left off 🙃

Maybe if she had been this wouldn't have happened. I hope you aren't labeling a negative connotation to antidepressants.

It's a thread about Elon Musk being a pompous ass..let's be clear 😀 but I'm glad you added the edit. I mean...the same opportunities are still there regardless of who is calling the shots..at least for now..it's gonna take a special person, sure..to break through. But being ordinary ...well it just leaves you ordinary. Nothing wrong with that either.

Well you sure have it explained well my friend. I'd say that's a philosophy.

But see there is a problem with that because then you have to explain where duality comes from. And where the tree comes from. What is it made of if it's independent of consciousness? If consciousness is a component of the Absolute and not fundamental then what is fundamental to the Absolute? Do you just want to explain this away by saying it's unexplainable? Well if you do that my friend, I might just call out your philosophy as, well..vacant.

Well remember I never said there said there was a you. Remember what I said about self and other. That is a duality that must collapse. There is just the Absolute or Consciousness. So while self is not real or you, nor is other. Thus, when I say "you" are looking at a tree what I really mean is the tree just IS

Exactly. There wasn't a plan here. There was a helpless feeling of suffering and self deception. She stated that she wanted to commit suicide already right? But this was a way of going out that made more of a bang. It was selfishness but also it was lack of love and communication. Had this person received the proper guidance, love, and tutelage then she probably wouldn't have committed suicide in this manner and took others out with her. Suicide happens every day it's just then when they decide to take others with them it becomes a big story.

Ok but if there is no consciousness of the tree then why would the tree need to be there at all? It would be no different than being at zero.

Then the tree doesn't exist when it's zero right? Or does the tree still exist independent of consciousness.

So the universe is conscious of it? But notice that you did include consciousness (the tree itself being infinite consciousness) so that means that you do believe Consciousness is fundamental to existence.