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Well ultimately when you get to the deepest levels spirituality will kill you - but hey - you get to come back!

Yeah crazy right?

Not dead - imaginary. You are God imagining up this world and Leo is a projection of your mind - precisely placed there by yourself for you to awaken to yourself. Then you placed yourself into your own dream and limited yourself. But this will take a radical shift in consciousness - a mystical shift if you will into Infinite Consciousness.

Is that the last bro? You sound like Kevin Hart in the movie Central Intelligence. Bro

Yeah you are saying you tend to get lost in thoughts with eyes open. Try the do nothing method in which you go meta on those thoughts - acknowledge the thought and let it go. Try not having any thoughts...Bring your awareness back to awareness itself. Its actually pretty hard to go even a few seconds without any thoughts . But just watch them float by

@black_math49 it could be whatever allows you to connect with Being or Actuality better. You do wanna quiet the monkey mind down but eyes open allows me to focus on an object and become conscious of the actuality of it - which can help to collapse the duality of the subject (you) and the object into pure actuality.

@black_math49 for me it is the opposite. So I only meditate eyes open. So i think it will just be different for different people. There is no right way or wrong way.

? true he was trying to get as high as he could off that thing haha

It didn't seem like Joe was enjoying himself at all. It felt very forced. I think it was partially because he had promised himself to remain sober and also because he feels Spotify breathing down his neck. And i learned that he plans to change out the studio too - guess the fans won that one....

@BlackPhil no i get where you are coming from - I'm not on either side I'm looking at it from a meta-perspective. So you think its wiser to fight fire with fire so to speak? If the other nations are dictators then we should be too and and go through another 4 years of where we are now..ok..I've heard that argument before....not sure if that is the wisest. A more advanced government can still work on removing the divisions in their own nation while still showing strength through wisdom. If we move to a more green government you are right - the model breaks down because we still need a show of strength - so would need qualities that both transcend green but incorporate lower stages. Thus the higher stages incorporate the mote conscious qualities of the lower stages. Again I'm not saying the left is there yet - I'm just viewing which could advance society further out of the options available. I'm not willing to go back a step just cuz other countries are back a step. And in the end what you view is the better option will be relative of course.

@PlasmicProjection here is the big picture on this. And as a high conscious being you have to look at the big picture. The big picture is Oneness. As of today, if i may reference spiral dynamics - our society is still Orange. Orange is focused on the individual. Trump is a narcissist - and his stage of development is orange and below. He is not going to be conscious of the middle class or lower class. He may say it but that is one of his lies. He said he was going to lower taxes - but that never happened. He only lowered taxes for corporations. While this is good for business and the economy it will still leave an unbalance and a division of classes. That's because he still as a "it's just about me" attitude - which is stage Orange. He lacks empathy and compassion. It is all about him. And this ultimately will not thrust the country forward to transcend orange into a more collective, advanced stage. There must be a balance where the economy can thrive but so too can the poor be raised up and treated as one. You have to come at this from a high consciousness perspective not from stage orange. There might be some good things (israel) that he did but that wasn't about peace it was about him. And those things can happen just as easy on any side. Overall there is a better chance of society advancing with him gone. They're not perfect by any means but overall they are at a higher stage of development.

@Danioover9000 the thread is beloved and so is Crysty

You shouldn't say it until you become conscious that your are consciousness. If you have then you can. Watch the misinformation.

@Someone here yah the why is lack of consciousness @Nthnl since reality is Consciousness/Infinity and Consciousness is Love and Love is Goodness. So the less conscious the more you will cling to the ego's devilry rather than transcend it. And when one becomes pure consciousness or the Absolute there is no more distinctions as you are just pure infinity or pure Love. So harming anything is harming yourself. And you are Infinite so you cannot destroy yourself - its the one thing you cannot do (unless you trick yourself - hence imagination) You are yourself at that point so all distinctions collapse into Love for yourself. (Or into Yourself) That is why harm and evil collapse into Love and Goodness.

@Someone here you are conflating the Absolute with the relative. From the Absolute POV there is no ego or time or space but dualistically or relatively speaking there is.

@The0Self it is actual Nothing which exists (in fact you are it) not what you think of nothing as, such as a void or empty space, that is something not actual Nothing. The mind can't conceive of actual Nothing because it is Being. Anyways an awakening to Absolute Infinity will help a bunch on this.

Yeah i guess i could have said it with a lot less words - you are imagining that it is real And imagination is reality usually we just use one liners around here though so some context may help someone who knows...

@Vittorio nice!

I know you have asked this several times concerning non-duality. If you are everything then why do you bother participating in duality if you realize directly that separation is imaginary. Well - in a non-dual state of consciousness or mystical state - at least for me - the one where i had the realization of Oneness - i actually couldn't function in duality. Maybe some can but i couldn't because i was in a state of consciousness where i was directly conscious that i was talking with myself. In that realization I realized i was completely alone and that was too shocking to bare. The duality of self/other had completely collapsed. That's why its called a non-dual state. Now - over time - let's say a week or so, consciousness levels returned to the level needed for proper functioning in duality. In other words you come back to human levels of consciousness - aka the ego. The mystical state can be thought of as God mode and in that mode the ego has dissolved. But back as the ego, the duality of self/other is again created or imagined. (You are imagining that it is real - which then in turn becomes real for you) Thus you can participate and have a sense of self and others. It didn't go as smoothly for me as that but that is a quick summary. So when we talk from the Absolute POV we normally are not presently in those non-dual states of consciousness.

Imagine if you were to remove one of your arms - (do not try this for real) Would you still be you? Start doing that thought experiment with more and more body parts. (Its part of self inquiry). You will have pretty quickly eliminated most of the body and yet you would still be you - or what you think is you. Leo has a great early enlightenment video guiding you through this - just go back and listen to it while doing self inquiry. Self inquiry is about eliminating or the peeling away of what you think is you until you discover the Truth.

@mark eldridge he was wrong. You can be a brilliant person yet still never open your mind to spirituality, mysticism or meditation, psychedelics, etc because you believe all the answers can be found within science. And there you would remain, trapped - though you would never know you were trapped, which was why it remains a trap.

@Leo Gura @universe. Oneness. You're fucked.

That's because the mind wants to default to science for the answer. You want a mathematical formula or a scientific theory. The truth is that science is contained within reality and thus can study the content or that which is held within reality. And in fact it has studied the content. Look no further than quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics studied the content and discovered it was nothing more than wave functions - which are ultimately nothing...so, they found that mere possibilities comprise the root level of reality.

You are referring to permanent enlightenment and you are right there is no such thing while in form. For that is eternal formlessness. I have stated that early on when i first joined the forum. But if you have an enlightenment, and come back - yes you are in the dream but you have previously broken out - like Neo in the Matrix going back into the Matrix. What you call it is relative of course. But you are lucid dreaming at that point - so it is awake while dreaming.

I have suffered in the past from pure OCD. The obsessions not the compulsions. I would try meditation and self inquiry first. Don't ask me why but your OCD may provide a spiritual gift. What is the severity - mild, or severe? Are you able to go meta on an OCD thought and label it as OCD yet? Anyways they call it the Doubt Disorder. It is the constant feeling of a lack of certainty. Awakening is total certainty - so when you awake you will be cured for the time you are in a mystical state of consciousness. When you come back your OCD should be better as you will have increased your baseline consciousness level.