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Exactly how? By nullifying a threat? You don't see them advancing on other countries. You only see them wiping out a direct threat. Again - any nation in today's society would do exactly that. So, it's interesting that you want to condemn Israel but yet if you do that you should also condemn the entire current society as it is today. Israel is merely trying to survive in a world where there is much greed for power and land. But to you its not their land. So now they are over stepping.

Don't say yes so much and agree with everything he says. You're starting to sound like AI. War is war. Where is the morality in war?

@Raze what nation wouldn't control their boundaries. Who comes in and out. As far as being arrested without charge - well that's just that. There isn't a conviction until found guilty.

Indeed. I think that's the whole issue here. One sees a strong, well manufactured military and they immediately assume because it's Israel that its the oppressor. But look around. Is any strong nation any different? Nay. They just don't have the immediate conflict on their hands like Israel does. There are bad apples everywhere but ultimately I don't think Israel's intentions are bad

Alcohol has a spiritual effect but it's too numbing. I wouldn't waste your time.

Awesome. Yes...for me the visual field persisted but I was in Divine God Consciousness. It didn't matter.

I knew almost instantly with enlightenment that enlightenment and DPDR are virtually identical but without the God realization.

Yes but in a non-dual state you will still be in a body although it will be like a fading glimpse. But there is still the visual field left. If you don't have any perceptual fields remaining you are out of the body. But that is Masamadhi and there is no returning from that.

Nowhere and no how. You cannot trace back the owner to a set of atoms, or quarks Look. Look with your microscope. Try to find the substance of reality via science. You may just zoom in forever.

Nope. Awakening and enlightenment is the ultimate miracle. It is the breaking free of the dream. It is becoming God. After, it is not a memory. Something like that can't be remembered. You just know.

A different mindset how? Can you expand on the brainwashing? I think i am a bit baffled there. Brainwashed from birth? That's a pretty bold claim. There isn't a lot going on here - we are basically saying that Israel isn't the bad guy here - but they are being portrayed as domineering squatters. Depicted unfairly as the oppressors here when they have endured centuries of oppression. I'd say if you were an Israeli you might want to step in and have a say. It doesn't mean we are brainwashed.

So the jews weren't slaves in Egypt? Is that what you are eluding to?

Of course. We - meaning you and me - are bystanders. So that's an assumption on your part. We are not sitting in the chambers where they initiate the attacks so you don't know the whole picture. Its easy to judge from the outside.

In How does this pertain to ethnic cleansing on the behalf of Israel?

There may be strategies you are not conscious of. Did you consider that? No one does something for no reason without complete insanity and I'll give Israel a lot but they aren't insane.

Bullshit. No way. You can't prove this first of all so don't claim it. That's a heck of a claim and why @Nivsch could no longer engage with you. You speak from emotion and emotion alone.

Because they aren't looking at it holistically. They just want to throw out current events but it's deeper than that. Israesl isn't Nazi Germany. They just want what any other current nation would want.. And there is a history to a nation that they don't consider. Not one that wants domination but one that wants freedom. Power must be exerted in certain areas to obtain that freedom.

No. They don't want endless war. They got endless war. Against them. They are simply returning the favor.

@Water by the River you are making things much more complicated. The short answer is you can only awaken once. Fool me once but twice - now that would be something...in fact, it would be redundant.

That's good of you. Well - stolen land from when - the last 70 years as you stated? Stolen land is relative. Land is no one's. It's just there for the taking. The Jews see them as a threat and therefore they are nullifying that threat. If you were treated like shit for decades or centuries you would do the same. Look at the US when we broke free from Britain. Do you think we would tolerate a threat to our land from next door? Of course not. We would take next door. That's just survival. Any nation would do the same.

In my eyes Israel is simply attempting to expunge its enemies..not grab more land. Once the threat is tamed it would not go on to conquer other nations. You again have to consider the history of the Jewish people and the persecution they endured. Then you might be able to see it from their perspective. Aggeession was their own only avenue. To keep up with the current times or be swallowed up yet again.

When someone's lands and rjgnts have been taken away for so long they become like rabid dogs. Is it right? No. But it wasn't right to enslave them either. Now - they have their own nation. And they are defending it. Whose land it once was? Well - they are there now. So it's theirs. They aren't squatting anywhere so let's just clarify that one.

Maybe you need some. The jews have had thousands of years of persecution. You can't blame the state for doing what it's doing. Discounting history would be an error here.

Squatting? Getting sick of your implicit racism. I suppose putting them in gas camps was love to you but it wasn't to me.