Inliytened1

no one wants to wake up. It will take extreme suffering or a thirst for Truth that surpasses all egoic desires. Leo was not gifted. But he found Truth because he thirsted for it and he put it in front of his own egoic desires. His thirst for Truth surpassed his own survival. This is what it will take.

You are close but you haven't evaded the dream. The dream is evasive. But don't despair. There will be no one to tell you evaded when you do. There will be only you. So you'll just play the games. You'll play games to stay in the dream. And believe me, you are a master.

I can just tell you that they are. And this is without psychedelics. Psychedelics will show you bits and pieces of awakening - apparently. But waking up from a dream means who wakes up? When you are dreaming you are a butterfly and then you wake up to realize you were not what are you but the Dreamer itself? Neo-advaita is a conceptual belief in no self. It is not waking up from the dream.

No self and God realization are the same thing. If it's enlightenment. When you realize no self there is nothing else but God and you become it. There are realizations that can come shortly afer -aspects of the Absolute - such as realizing that other is and was always you. That it was your imagination. All religions and spiritual BS such as neo-advaita are just hand me downs to actual awakening.

Precisely...he wouldn't have to ask Leo because he would know he is Leo.

You say you are God. But is this a belief? Becoming it should fulfill the burning need the ego has for some point to life. The point is itself. It is reality itself. But to realize that you must realize you are reality itself- at the level of Being not concept. And this is synonymous with Absolute Love.

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This is on the money. The more conscious one becomes the more they see sameness not difference. And the more they realize there is no difference between anything. This is both good and bad. In everyday life one needs differences for survival purposes. So it's good in terms with aligning with one's true nature but it's bad for the ego's survival. Thus a balance must be struck.

@puporing remember, imagination is reality. You don't have to trick yourself. You just have to imagine that "other" is real- and poof, it is. When I'm talking to you now I'm imagining you are sitting at your computer somewhere. And thus, in that sense, you are. You are trying too hard in this regard. When you lay down and dream at night you don't over think anything- the dream just becomes your reality. It's the same thing here. Until you wake up- which is a shift in consciousness. Everything is shifts in consciousness.

If you are asking me if I'm lucid - its when I choose to be. You forget a key factor. God wants to forget he's God.

When you wake up from the dream you wake up. There aren't infinite depths to that. God Realization is quite simple.

Its the same thing silly - If it's indeed enlightenment. What I meant was for him it was not triggered via meditation. There's no "meditation enlightenment" and "psychedelic enlightenment".

False. You haven't experienced "classic" enlightenment.

Lol. Don't be so sure Precisely.

You don't know what you are talking about as you aren't awake. I was talking about triggers. What is a trigger on a gun? It is nothing unless the gun is loaded. If you are not ready for awakening it doesn't matter how much psychedelics you take or for that matter how many years you sit in meditation.

The bottom line is that there are certain tools that can be used for awakening. Psychedelics are one of them. Personally I used meditation and self inquiry. But unlike Ralston I am not ruling out Psychedelics. Him ruling them out simply shows his lack of versatility.

If you take them on as a belief system yes.

The question is would you have found those teachers regardless? I'm trying to point to Infinity. Things unfold precisely how they mean to. This is God's will. You can try to inject your will. But it is the Will of God that holds all. So you trying to raise other's consciousness is God's will. You not doing it would also be God's will. Either way, God's will is at play.

It's the same thing.

Experience raises consciousness.

I get it trust me. It's a valiant effort. The problem is if they are open minded they are going to find the group anyway without you. Basically you are talking about marketing spirituality. If someone wants to find out about spirituality they will. How much you advertise won't make a difference here. Or maybe it turns one in a thousand on and they click the button. Fine. What I'm saying is it that won't make a dent in changing what is going to naturally occur anyway.

Awaken.

It is a mystical state you could say - i.e. pure Consciousness or a non-dual state. It is isness. It is Divinity. Within that isness You can become conscious of various facets. If it is an experience of machine elves than no, that is not enlightenment. Because that is the ego experiencing machine elves. God consciousness is completely void of ego.

Enlightenment is not an experience because there is no experiencer. It is God Consciousness. But taking psychedelics could possibly trigger a shift into God Consciousness. So the whole wording or understanding by Peter is wrong.

For someone that's awake Peter should not be so close minded as to think psychedelics couldn't trigger enlightenment. He's just old fashioned is all. He should at least be open to the possibility even if he awoke via another method.