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He is that which is the structure of both left and right wing haha. But he also, like castles in the sand, is the voice of both the left and the right.

Not all right wingers or conservatives side with Kirk. Kirk was too wrapped up with Chirstianity in my opinion. There are many conservatives who also didn't like him. I'm more moderate but I think he said a lot of stuff that came off as bigoted and arrogant. So while I am not dancing on his grave I am not afraid to talk about him. On the flipside he made a few good points on abortion and immigration. Either way he had the balls to get in front of crowds and speak his mind. He had a beautiful family with traditional values - something you don't see much of anymore. And he was a caring father. So as a human being I think we should take a step back and just pay our respects. Then we can go on with our criticism

It's not war to them it's oppression. But see Israel was oppressed as well and if they didn't fight for their own country they would not exist at all. So it's easy to demonize Israel here but it takes big picture thinking to see that it isn't Israel it's survival in general that is the devil. Didn't Leo in one of his videos call the ego the devil. Well there you go. The Jews are for the first time fighting fire with fire and they get demonized for it because it's "current events".

I guess the right to exist means nothing.

This is a very left forum and is therefore going to be bias. This is a very difficult and nuanced situation. In one way Israel has become a monster but in another way what would have become of them if they didn't become what they wanted to protect themselves from. But by that same token I think there are differences between what is happening and the traditional view of genocide. In most cases genocide assumes the accused feels their race is superior and that violence needs to be achieved to ensure inferior races are destroyed. This isnt the case here. The Holocaust began when Germany began their quest for world dominance. This conflict began with Oct 7. I could go on with the differences. I'm not absolving Israel from the atrocity but I'm also not absolving Hamas either.

The problem is this isn't just limited to politics this more of a psychological phenomenon that applies to all people, beliefs and views. From religion to politics and it affects all sides of the political aisle and all religions.

It is and it isn't. If the FBI came out with an official statement on this and then you opposed that with your own theory then technically that would be a conspiracy theory. But since they really haven't yet any theory not validated by the official release from the FBI could be considered conspiracy. On the other hand since they haven't all you have are theories at this point. So it depends on how you look at it. Personally I think they haven't because: 1. It doesnt matter 2. They are right wing and it matters even less Hes dead. The shooter has been captured and the footage shows the bullet going through the neck. It's a waste of man hours to spend. But for you tubers focused on views then maybe it's not a waste. I agree if this was the President there would be cause for a deeper investigation and reports of such investigation. And if it were a democratic President we would probably be asking for that even more. This would be to rule out a 2nd shooter from different directions etc. So I do think they should release something and it seems very hush hush from the right at this point. That is kind of suspect but also again this wasn't the President either.

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This guy was vile and women should stay home and just be homemakers.

We did say that conspiracy theories are against guidelines. @Leo Gura are you ok with these different theories to continue being discussed here?

Or is it? 😞

@Recursoinominado the fact the FBI hasn't released anything official goes back to my earlier point that how he died..the technicalities of it. Don't matter. What is the left's fascination with this? I know the video is right but all those guns on the wall should be a clue to its authenticity. Just saying it seems very staged.

You wanna be honest? I encourage your own research and to find what is true for yourself. This could lead you into conspiracy territory. And for that reason I think it should be removed from the guidelines. The problem is people get really caught up in way out theories too. Anyway..with regards to this topic I don't see anything officially released by the FBI that's what I was asking about.

Whether it was conclusive or not wasnt the point. I guess you missed that.

Just because Trump kisses Putin's ass doesn't mean it's both ways. Putin does whatever the hell he feels like. Besides Putin wouldn't be behind the bots it would be Russian hackers following no one. You can make the claim that Kirk's assassin was a lone wolf but when it comes to Russia the hackers are one with Putin. Maybe they have their own agenda.

Ok but again what is the left doing here other than crying boo hoo. Do something about it. If there are a bunch of right wing bots out there turning new voters then instead of sitting in your armchair crying about it get your people out there and do something about it. And if it's Russia then they would probably want Trump out not in. The past democratic regimes were as weak as it gets so Russia would not take sides.

Well it seems like that's what you're doing if you aren't leaving it to the FBI.

How do you know the photo in the video wasn't photo shopped. Did you slow motion the bullet's ?trajectory? Do you have that footage. Why hasn't the FBI denied or confirmed he was wearing body armor if he was. There would be no reason to hide something like this.

So he was wearing a bullet proof vest is that what you are saying? This hasn't been confirmed by the FBI so you are initiating a conspiracy theory which is against your own guidelines.

Ok but if the left is going to read a bot's message and then decide to change sides do you think they are really worth being on your side in the first place? If they are that spineless as you called me that they would have no real roots in the left. If you're saying this could influence someone who is just getting into politics who is looking to vote- yeah - but do you realistically think there are no leftist bots just because Musk owns Twitter or whatever it's called now? Trust me I'm sure there are resistance bots. Typical one sided propaganda.

I am sure the sheep are working on becoming wolves. .

This is the left crying. Thats all it is. Boo fucking hoo.

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No but I guess he should have been coming to these events with a vest. Trump almost bought the farm and that was the President. This discussion does prove fruitful in that security will surely be stepped up going forward even for activists like Kirk. Especially when they are spreading Nazism.

So now all the conspiracy theorists come out 😞 as long as you guys have a method to the madness