Inliytened1

You got it. You are even judging suffering. You can even judge judging. You can go meta and then go meta on being meta. That's not what will set you free. What will set you free is realizing you are finite and have bias. What you are speaking of is bias. And bias is so that you can survive. It's OK to want to survive and have bias and I think that's where you are going. There is no need to judge survival. In other words, don't judge judging. It's OK to judge.

@Raptorsin7 another thing. Suffering is not evil and it is not bad. Only the ego mind puts that label on suffering. There is nothing wrong with suffering. Being mortal is to suffer and to suffer is the point of being mortal. Don't demonize it. Suffering actualy grows you and brings you closer to God when you don't judge it.

@Raptorsin7 your learning. Remove attachments and you don't suffer. Judgment is an attachment.

Infinite Consciousness. Then back to finitude Infinity cannot escape itself it can only trick itself. It does this by shifting states and morphing into what appears as something else. It takes finite form. It is a shapeshifter that has no shape.

They are relative. In the relative sense correct, WW14 doesn't exist yet. However Absolutely speaking it exists and is real - as a thought in your mind. That's what it exists as.

I think he's just saying that existence and non existence is a duality that must collapse. They are relative terms. But I shall add this: things Exist with a capital E - this is the Absolute. There is also Understanding with a capital U - this too is an Absolute. It doesn't require finite thought or dualistic thinking.

Its not that theres a toilet - its why its an oval shape and not a square shape. There is no preference of one shape over another

Thats what that question ultimately is based on.

The answer is meaning has no meaning. Thus something is what it is for itself

Correct. But look more closely. The present moment is also a thought and imaginary. You cannot capture the present moment because you ARE it, you are being it. So there really is no such thing as the present moment. Better to speak of Being and God. It is more accurate. There is no Now because you are Being itself. There is no past, future, or now. Those are all descriptions of time.

Somehow i understood this perfectly

Enter libertarians right?

Pepperoni please. Im trying to cut carbs though so if i do this you are smoking a cigar with me.

Hes actually right. Its consistent because your imagination is infinite so it has everything covered. But time is an illusion and you know this. The past and future are imaginary. Actually to be even more.precise the present moment is also a thought because you ARE it - so you are being it.

He is real. There is no difference between real and imaginary. You imagine he exists outside your door and this lies atop a nest of backstories which create your reality. One of those is his particular backstory. And that is that he is still growing his business. That is real because it is imagined so.

I was kinda thinking the same thing. @Reciprocality are you saying if you are truly enlightened then you do not need to say God is the best word because you have experienced God?

Haha i hear ya. But the more beer you drink the more you should see they are absolutely identical and that nothing needs to arise from anything because its already it. Relatively speaking yes you create "things" with your imagination - however in the Absolute sense they were already there you just had to see them with your finite mind's eye.

Everything doesn't arise from nothing. Everything IS Nothing. Now, you can awaken to different facets at a different times. You can realize Nothingness but then realize Nothing and Everything are identical in different awakenings. But this is still enlightenment and it is not a process. Awakening/enlightenment is a state of Infinite Consciousness which is not limited to a logical system or process - it is direct.

In the Absolute sense you are just revealing things to yourself yes. But that fine. I would just suggest a meditation practice - self inquiry specifically. Really dig in to what you think you are.. You say impersonal awareness but notice this could be dogma and not realized directly which is enlightenment - its enlightenment because you become awareness - which you have not. So what do you really think you are? An entity or soul residing behind the eyes?

Look the point is to me she doesnt need to play this card. She hasnt even sat down and done self inquiry.

Didnt require it

I expected some pushback from you. Dont make me poke you with my staff! :)?

Then you havent yet done true self inquiry. True self inquiry is finding out what you currently believe you are and then killing that belief by realizing it was an illusion and therein realizing that which you truly are. When this happens you become what you truly are and thats enlightenment. You are gifted so this method can work for you. Psychedelics just destroy the illusion without you having to discover it on your own thus i consider it unearned wisdom.

Haha. Relatively speaking. All speaking is relative. Have you delved into psychedelics or done serious self inquiry meditation? You may be on the brink of ego death/awakening but without the gun to pull the trigger....:)?

Very nice. You are definitely gifted.