Inliytened1

Anyone ready for this thread to be put to bed?

Everything is part of the dream. There are zero exceptions.

What does it mean for a tree to make a sound if you don't hear it? You can hand wave it off and say it is just beyond our experience and we cant know...but this is false - and just a hand wave...you can actually directly discover that this is false and a thought to mask what is really going on. What if your consciousness was all there is? Could it EVEN be possible? So... again...the ground outside your door - outside of your perception. How can it exist without you thinking about it right now? These are things you have to instinctively intuit are wrong with materialism. If you don't intuit it there is pretty much no helping you out of materialism. Only maybe a ton of drugs.

Did you listen to Leo's what is Perception video? What does it mean for a brick to exist with no one around? It radically redefines what it means to exist. Because to exist it has to have someone conscious of it. Right? Isn't that what it means for a brick to exist at all? But what if it didn't require a someone to be conscious of it? What if it was just WAS Consciousness

It has everything to do with it. If you look. But no one wants to look. You see, you can't escape the fact that everything hinges on your own conscioisness. EVERYTHING.

That very inquiry exists within your experience.

Notice that no matter how you slice it, my post exists within your experience. Just as your post exists within mine. Furthermore, the thought or question as to whether it exists outside, also exists inside.

Indeed. But you cannot survive off just being.....in this realm, thinking cannot be escaped- thus establishing a firm veil over reality.

Yes. You are in the zone. But yet - we need to plan for the future and think ahead in this realm, else we are doomed. To his point, this doesn't have to conflict with happiness. But ultimately, imagining what could be - it does conflict with your happiness, because you aren't living in the present. The key is to keep it at a minimum. The same goes for the past. Live for the now. Except - if you notice, the now will always escape your grasp.

You should really watch all of them. You seem stuck in some flavor of Buddhist dogma. But this is just what I can intuit. Have you awoken?

The interesting thing about this is that it lies in direct opposition to survival. If you notice, survival is very dependent on planning, and imagining what may come to pass in the future. For example- if you live in the present completely, you may show up to a gun fight without a gun and be shot. Now, I bring you the ultimate twist: would you show up like that and be shot? Or is that something you are imagining about the future? What will actually happen? Or again - is that another question about the future? An interesting quandary we find ourselves in. The struggle with being present and survival. And you're right- but if you take happiness to its totality you will find it must exclude survival.

Umm...yeah? You are conceptualizing God. That's what God wants. To keep himself asleep. As stated in an earlier post, God prides itself in staying asleep and conceptualizing itself. But you can BECOME God. You are excluding everything that matters!

@Bobby_2021 I think you are conflating Being with insight. Being incorporates insight but yet you can also have an insight or an epiphany about a thing, such as God, or Yourself.

This post was not for a Show of hands - it was a Call to Arms.

Haha. Don't tell me how, but I FELT you were gonna respond to my post. I saw you online and I felt it. Here's the deal. Quantum mechanics debunked materialism. So yes, materialism can be thrown out if you bother to look at the science. But this is NOT God realization. Do not confuse that with God realization. And in your own words, "all you have to do is take..." Well, that part isn't so simple.

I assume you have a level of spiritual advancement when I speak with you. If you are a specialist in a certain field and you are having a dialogue with someone and speaking in certain lingo, then it may seem foreign to someone outside of the conversation listening in. Like, for example, if you are talking about computers to your fellow geek. Your mom probably won't understand a word you are saying. So I am assuming you have listened to the videos and have a clue of what I am talking about. Most who have bothered to create an account on the forum have taken some time to study the work. So yes, I speak In a very specialized way about Spirituality. But really, you can replace certain words with other words and they would still mean the same thing. There is still a very general thing that is being pointed to, regardless of the verbage. As to your ideas regarding proper contribution, God can't be proven, so that's out. Don't expect that.

And what would be a productive contribution in your eyes? If you want me to coddle you about spirituality that's just not my style - I'm gonna tell you how it is. I'm not gonna beat around the bush. Because I see no gain in that. And I'm telling you there is a state of Consciousness, a state of Being - that IS just Pure Being. And AS pure Being, you will still have understanding. You will have it in its most pristine form - you will have Omniscience. Here, where you have piled levels of conceptual thought on top of Being and hidden Being, there still lies understanding. That is because Being is still there. But if you can remove the cloak, you will have God.

You're correct. I didn't mean it literally. Go out and do the work yourself. Then come back and join those who did. You're sitting here bullshitting are you not? How many hours of meditation have you done? How many trips? Have you done either? All you need are the metaphysical videos and then spiritual practice. You don't need this place. This place is to push you to go back out the door from which you came.

Trust me on this...you can understand Infinity. Only it must be AS infinity. The finite cannot grasp the Infinite. But the Infinite, IS itself, and thus can grasp itself. Not really something I can explain for the reason just stated.

To be unlimited is easy. Limitation goes against the grain because God's natural state is without limitation.

There's a clicking when you understand a thing. It can't be explained bexause its prior to. Like when you get a good joke. You just get it. That's understanding.

It's actually not that easy to realize it's all imaginary..but it's just as hard if not harder to forget. The challenge God has is how to forget. Awakening is the easy part because he's God. However once he puts it in place it is almost impossible to see through Because God is perfection.

He's still in the phase of being Awake. Being asleep is what it's about. It's about forgetting. It's easy to realize you are imagining everything. All of it. It's not so easy to forget afterwards. That's the trick. The ability to seamlessly shift between the two.

Just watch out for spiritual ego. Even with great genetics, as I have (Awake sober, contrary to Leo's belief) spirituality done with just dumb curiosity without much thought or spiritual dogma or corruption is the best way to awake - then pad it with great genetics and you have the ultimate 1-2 punch combo. Here you know too much about spirituality and also are bragging so it almost negates your genetic gifts that you do have. Let go of all spiritual dogma including good genetics. Also - keep in mind that the true genetic freak's mind is just wired different. They often suffer from mental illness - such as OCD or schizophrenia. To be spiritually gifted also means you may not be "normal" or even disabled in the earthly realm.

You should see things begin to dance to and fro...side to side. Like the dancing Buddha. This shows the solidity of physical reality is a falsehood - and a dreamlike nature begins to be revealed.