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Wait who the fuck is @Grateful Dead never seen him before ?

@Razard86 yeah - the ironic thing is that Oneness isn't ego it is Oneness. It means selflessness. It means loving your brother. Solipsism is misleading in that it can lead one to think that is all about the ego. It is actually becoming totally egoless. To embody this in everyday life is the pinnacle of enlightenment. It is not enlightenment itself, but embodiment that is the pinnacle. That's so hard, because the ego hates to lose. But losing is what it's all about.

The final awakening is realizing you are created all of this and all of it is yours as God. You realize yourself as God. The ego will fight against this - because for a self there must be an opposite. There must be other. This is what will make it the hardest one. That is why it is the final awakening. But ultimately you must come to grips that you are solo. How you come to grips with it is up to you.

Infinite.

It's not about disagreeing. It's about knowing when to just say hey - I'm awake. The rest is just child's play. And if you actually awoke, this will be seamless. When neo woke up from the matrix there wasn't a doubt. But the problem was, going back into the matrix and convincing everyone else that it was a matrix. This is no different. When you wake up from the dream - like actually waking up. Nothing else matters. Going back in and talking to the characters within are all products of your own mind. You have beaten the game. You can't fool yourself any longer that you haven't. You only do that temporarily, in spurts. But you will always return to lucidity . Only a total memory wipe will bring you back to being asleep again.

We have. Have you seen the 12th? It's the guy from the tenth that is giggling at the grass is greener on the other side dudes.

@vibvI wpuld respond but no need to now.

wrong. simple as that. There cannot be anything prior to Being. Being is Infinity. Yet you still ask for more because you have not truly become Inifnity. You were enlightened under false pretenses. The real thing is the real thing - and it will always be something you only know as concept.

No - it's fhe first time God realizes it is imagining everything. It is a deep feeling of realizing there is no other but itself.

But ultimately Being will always transcend finite thought. Because to be a thing requires no thought. .

It can be itself. That is awakening.

God can realize in a non-dual state that it is sole. This will be a shocking feeling of Aloneness. There is no other way to describe it.

It is not alone via illusion. An illusion is total.

This in incorrect. You are in fact imagining everything.

I am not because again you fail to consider bias and relativity. It's only bad relative to you because it directly affects your own survival. I suggest delving deeper into relativity and finite bias. There are plenty of good episodes on these topics available here.

We don't say here that reality isn't a self deception. It's a giant self deception of the highest magnitude. But that is by design. It was not created under a self deception - it IS the deception.

Nonsense. At the highest level of Consciousness- Divine Consciousness - there is no duality or separation.

Of course we do. Don't you have free choice in a video game?

That's a nice story - reminds me of the Similarillion by Tolkien. God created the angels but one fell (Melkor, mentor of Sauron) into darkness. And then Melkor created the Universe that we see here. I think it's more like God dreamt up everything instantly - because Infinite intelligence requires no back story. And then in order to experience his own creation he had to deceive himself - because all of creation is in fact deception. So he forgot he was God and immersed himself into his own dream. In order for the dream to mask itself as reality, it had to include deception and "evil". And God as a finite being wanted to experience fear and shame and guilt. He wanted to feel what it was like to not be God. Not out of selfishness but out of a Mind thirsty to experience all possibilities . So this requires fooling yourself. But the universe is not an error because of Infinity. It cannot have any errors without inflicting those errors on itself intentionally and then forgetting it did so.

@CoolDreamThanks let's humor you for a second - if you believe a being "other" than God created the universe, isn't this a direct contradiction of Oneness - which is the same as Solipsism or Aloneness with a capital A, or Infinity, or Love? Ponder that for a moment. But in order for you to actually realize all this, you must first realize no self, or that the self you believe you are is illusory. Sitting and doing nothing can help with this, but self inquiry is really where the rubber meets the road. Also your Love is biased so it is not Infinite Love. Infinite Love loves ALL of itself.

You cannot capture Infinity because you are Infinity.

Here we go

This can be disputed by your own logic. You are using logic when you say you can realize it deeper. When we say you realize the Absolute, we mean you become it. So when you ARE something, or being it, then knowing it collapses into Being. It is One. What he is saying is knowing yourself ever deeper is an infinite regress. Which means it is dualistic. It is no different than not knowing you are God at all. Actually being God is something quite prior to that. You can BE infinity or God Consciousness an Infinite number of times - although once you actually become God you probably wont need to become God again until your dream ends - but to say it can get Infinitely deeper is really a very relative statement.

He's one of the most humble people on here.

Enough said. Let's let it flow. Enlightenment is not an illusion - and Buddhism comes closer to Truth than any other religion due to its understanding of "no self". Any who feel enlightenment is an illusion are themselves under a deep illusion.