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The next dream could be completely different.

This is religion at its core with figures like Jesus or Mohammed being the authoritative figure. This isnt post-Truth or a mental health issue it's delusion. It's a lack of consciousness. Thats what delusion is ultimately. It's separation from Truth.

Exactly. Think of it like you're the developer now going back and playing the game. As the player you still have to adhere to the rules of the game and for a moment you can forget you are the developer via imagination. The only difference is you don't have direct access to the cheat codes at will. You broke through the code once and realized your were the developer but it's not like you gave yourself anytime access to the cheat codes now anytime you wanted. The reason for this is you weren't ready to leave the game. If you had God mode access anytime you wanted there wouldn't be a game. And you love the game.

You're comparing the truth about reality to how the ego wants it. When you actually wake up to God it will be Infinite Bliss. After that it's just about lucid dreaming. You can enjoy it so much more.. the downside is that you're like the developer now going back and playing the game you created. You can still enjoy it its just different now because you understand everything. But when you go back and play you lose yourself in the game again.

Where are your facts that he isn't. I admit i don't know a lot about him but if you do then where is he coming out with where he is anti-democracy? The list i made is pretty strong - and it was a list of what a Nazi is. So I guess you'll have to provide facts where he he would commit genocide too. The white Christian national is racially superior and the rest need to be wiped out. Or maybe we are just using the loose definition of the word. Right? Where maybe he supports authoritarianism. Meanwhile they say the same thing about Trump too and we still have a democracy. It seems the only revolution that will take place might be from the left. Everytime I ask YOU a direct question you deflect....so i don't expect anything different here. I also never said the left was worse. I questioned whether the left's belief that the right is worse is valid.

Irs not that they do so very seriously they are just an extreme version of them. A fascist would take it seriously as well- but how to the exteme would they take things. Since Nazis were Fascists they were just an extreme form of fascism. But they also felt their race was superior above all other races and thus condoned and even promoted genocide. This is a key thing about genocide. The Nazis committed genocide because they felt their race was superior and weaker races especially the ones they held the most hatred for needed to be wiped out. Which I don't feel by the way is the position of Israel. And also there is a contemporary, loose use of the word which just refers to the authoritarianism aspect and not the rest. Ot do they mean they think they will committ even genoicde to achieve their goal. Concentration camps and the like? Thats how Leo is using it. And I think this presents problems when you throw a term like Nazi around so loosely. Also to call someone a fascist how do you really know they are anti-democracy. Did Kirk ever say that or did Fuentes? That's a big one. You say they have to meet most of the criteria but I think this one would be key to being a fascist along with feeling your race is superior. Hard to know that's in a lot of these right wing activists or politicians' hearts but the left labels them anyway.

According to AI: Nazi is defined as a member or supporter of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), which was the political party led by Adolf Hitler that controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945. More broadly, the term encompasses: Historical definition: Members of the Nazi Party who subscribed to its ideology of extreme nationalism, antisemitism, racial supremacy (particularly the belief in "Aryan" racial superiority), authoritarianism, and militarism. The Nazi regime was responsible for the Holocaust and other genocide, aggressive warfare, and numerous crimes against humanity. Contemporary usage: The term is now also applied to: Neo-Nazis: Modern groups or individuals who embrace Nazi ideology and symbolism People who advocate for similar supremacist, fascist, or genocidal ideologies Sometimes used more loosely (though controversially) as a political insult for authoritarian behavior, though historians generally discourage this casual usage as it can diminish the historical significance Additionally: Nazis are characterized by several core ideological and behavioral traits: Core Ideological Characteristics: Racial supremacy: Belief in the superiority of certain racial groups (historically "Aryan"/white) and inferiority of others Antisemitism: Systematic hatred and persecution of Jewish people Ultranationalism: Extreme devotion to nation/race above individual rights or international law Authoritarianism: Support for dictatorial power and opposition to democratic institutions Scapegoating: Blaming societal problems on minority groups or "outsiders" Political and Social Characteristics: Totalitarian control: Seeking to control all aspects of society, culture, and individual life Cult of personality: Devotion to a supreme leader figure Militarism: Glorification of violence, war, and military power Propaganda use: Heavy reliance on mass propaganda and disinformation Opposition to pluralism: Rejection of diverse viewpoints, multiculturalism, or democratic debate Behavioral Patterns: Dehumanization: Treating targeted groups as less than human Violence and intimidation: Using force against perceived enemies Conspiracy thinking: Believing in elaborate plots by minority groups or "elites" Historical revisionism: Denying or minimizing past atrocities Symbolic identification: Use of specific symbols, uniforms, or rituals Modern manifestations of these characteristics can be seen in neo-Nazi movements, white supremacist groups, and other extremist organizations that adopt similar ideologies, though they may adapt these core elements to contemporary contexts. These characteristics represent a dangerous extremist ideology that has historically led to genocide, war crimes, and massive human suffering. Are nazis against democracy? Yes, Nazis are fundamentally opposed to democracy. This opposition is one of their defining characteristics. Historical Nazi opposition to democracy: The Nazi Party systematically dismantled Germany's democratic Weimar Republic after gaining power in 1933 Hitler abolished democratic institutions, banned opposition parties, and eliminated civil liberties Nazis viewed democracy as weak, chaotic, and contrary to their vision of strong authoritarian rule They promoted the "Führerprinzip" (leader principle) - absolute obedience to a single supreme leader rather than democratic decision-making Why Nazis oppose democracy: Incompatible with racial hierarchy: Democracy's principle of equality conflicts with Nazi beliefs in racial superiority Pluralism rejection: Democracy requires tolerance of diverse viewpoints, which Nazis fundamentally reject Power concentration: Nazis seek total control, while democracy distributes power and includes checks and balances Minority rights: Democratic systems protect minority rights, while Nazi ideology seeks to persecute minorities Individual freedoms: Democracy emphasizes individual rights, while Nazis prioritize state/racial collective over individuals Modern neo-Nazi movements continue this anti-democratic stance, often: Advocating for authoritarian or fascist government systems Opposing voting rights for certain groups Supporting political violence to achieve their goals Rejecting constitutional protections for minorities Promoting conspiracy theories that undermine faith in democratic institutions This anti-democratic nature is why Nazi movements are considered existential threats to democratic societies and why democratic governments typically monitor and restrict Nazi organizations where legally possible. @MightyMind hard to believe Fuentes would be all of this so I suspect Leo's using the term loosely in a contemporary manner but I think this is very dangerous and promotes violence. Adding to the problem if one exists.

To your earlier question i have a much easier time listening to CNN as opposed to Fox News or my mom's favorite - Newsmax. That channel is like fox news on steroids. I can't even listen to these channels let alone put on a guy like Fuentes. But I'll give him a listen...However I did find Kirk's debates entertaining and he made some valid points in them. So I don't think he was lying at least not in his own mind. But he was so strictly aligned with the Bible that I think it really made him lack nuance in that regard. But he knew his facts I think its inaccurate to call him an idiot.

Interesting so his stance on Israel differs from the average right winger. I know with the ongoing pounding of Gaza even Kirk was starting to pull back from defending Israel wasn't he? I still feel like an ally is an ally. The US isn't going to turn their back on Israel yet.

He, like Kirk is a Christisn nationalist no? So he sounds very similar to Kirk but maybe not as radical.

I get it I am all about that I was probing. But if what he described is the case it sounds hard to listen to. For example..I try to listen to David Pakman at least once or twice a week. I put him on for about 5 or 10 minutes and after that I want to puke. It has to be the same here. This guy is so biased it's ridiculous. Meaning his side can do no wrong at all. Spin anything at any cost. Its sickening.

So why would you tune into this dude? I'd hate to see what his views on transgenders are. What's the point of a Democrat listening to him at all?

What dont you agree with?

CNN

I don't care what the International court says Hamas took the war to Israel not the other way around. So it's war not genocide.

You're playing a character too. One who demonizes Israel

Don't school @zurew on the facts he is politically aware. The US cant control Israel and Israel has its own fight. If you were not a people that were persecuted for thousands of years then be careful to make judgements before you step into their shoes. Are you a Jew? If not I would beckon you to take care before you attempt to speak for them.

If you are saying just because I don't officially declare myself as Democrat or republican means I don't take matters seriously or have views on things you're wrong. But the difference is I don't hail to one side. As I said perspectives on various items may differ and to classify someone strictly on one side I think would be narrow minded. Don't you? Who came out with the division anyway and why do we need to adhere to it? Sure if you want to start going off on Trump let's do it. There are a lot of problems with him.

I don't only have issues with the left but this is a leftist forum so if I have a neutral position if I were to go after the right here it would be perceived that I am boarding with left. There are almost no right wingers here at all. That is plain to see. I'm not sure why. Leo to me isn't known for his political views his popularity came from his spiritual views so I don't know how he attracted all these leftists. Maybe because he's left so his followers will be. I really don't know. But I can go crazy on the right I just don't do so here because I'm too busy playing devils advocate.

So why even post it?

And just where am I out of my depth? In that the leftists propaganda promotes violence in this country ? It fucking does. He had fascist engraved into the bullet casings. So prove me wrong on that one. You even agreed to it in an earlier thread but now you are ripping me apart for it

Man..for me I'd like to leave it open. Would we have to limit it?

lack of consciousness. Ego. Its an egoic struggle for survival. My hope is that one day we have an advanced society with one view but here's the problem- there are different degrees of consciousness and this is spread out across the population. So when you have different levels of consciousness all over you have people not understanding each other and thus crossing each other. We won't ever be able to escape this unfortunately. It is fermented into humanity.

Then let's do it together! I've been wanting to start one myself actually. Podcast?

@zurew where do you stand on politics? What is your position? If you are directly attacking me then I would like to know your position. If you have a problem with me in the political forum having no position then that's on you. Maybe I'm showing you a higher level of politics. The one from multiple perspectives. Just let it flow. I know there are both sides in you too because you aren't that one sided you are flexible and advanced like me. So you cannot be nailed down to one thing. There are many nuances in political views and there is no way you can be one position based on all of these nuances. I may not have all the facts but I know that much.