Inliytened1

I just wanted to probe into you to see if it was sincere or if it came from selfishness. Clearly it was indeed sincere

If i.asked you what you believed it was like to be a monkey, you would imagine what it was like to the best of your ability and you would describe that to me. But now imagine actually becoming a monkey and then coming back to me and trying to explain it. That's the difference Imagining what it's like to be the monkey would be second order. Actually being a monkey is first order.

That is a show of compassion. I knew you had it in you.

I'm glad I got a chuckle then I was just playing with you because I like you. So I will only apologize if you think it's the mature thing to do. I actualy don't know if you are enlightened or not. You could be. We've grown together through the years. You weren't back then...but time has passed. I'm glad we are on this journey together brother.

He doesn't have to apologize. He did so solely from his own guilt.

Then neither does Leo.

I think you need to backtrack and tell them that Mind - infinite Mind - is not human. That does make it alien. But to elude that it is some type of space alien is misleading. God doesn't say - hey I'm an alien.

What you have to realize is the you is not there. It's an illusion. There isn't an entity behind the eyes. Then you will realize Self. But Self is not something that can be explained here.

You can start then, by apologizing to me. For all of your arrogant acts on the forum. I think you have misled us in many ways. And while you may be wise in your own way - you are far from an awakened being. So I don't think your advice counts for much.

It is indeed a dream. I contradict nothing about your statement other than there is no ground to the beginning of what you are. Nothing has been uploaded. You are God in its fullest capacity. God does not need to be in an infinite state to be God. But - to take this as belief - is the devil. The devil is simply that which keeps you from realizing your true self.

This is entirely correct. What threw me about your statement was that you said all of truth was uploaded into your consciousness. You already hold Infinity because you are Infinity. Limitation is simply shrinking your consciousness down into that of a squrrel...or that of a robin. Nothing is moved or transferred...it is simply an illusion by changing the state of consciousness.

I am speaking much deeper than you understand. This is not about other people this is about him. Apologizing is correct by what measures? By the human measure. If he wants to transcend that - then he will understand that this is people pleasing. People pleasing only brings more desire and more ego. Compassion does not encompass people pleasing. Compassion comes from within.

No. It is because the you is an illusion. You are all things now. The illusion is viewing it from the lense of the self.

There is no they in spirituality. It's sounds cliche - but there isn't. If you place Truth into a model than you will always remain within the model.

Placing spirituality on a spiral dynamic model is also a trap. Because then you will assign the highest point to another color, always missing what is being pointed to - that which is prior to models. I would abandon the model altogether or run the risk of being trapped within it.

Egoic solipsism or turning Oneness into a belief, is indeed delusion. Turning anything into a belief or ideology is delusion.

Leo - grow a pair. Do not be sorry for anything. This creates guilt. Realize that this is part of your growth and move on. Be compassionate in your actions not in your reactions.

I prefer Aloneness with a capital A. Or Oneness with a capital O. They mean the same. If you assign a negative connotation to either notice this is a projection of the ego mind. To go a step beyond, my preference or yours means zilch in the Absolute sense. Interesting. Also to say solipsism is a mental illness - perhaps this is also subjective at the deepest level.

@Holykael @Hojo I just hit the velocicoaster at Universal. And let me tell you guys - it makes reality look like a kiddy ride! I highly recommend!!!

He is correct .they don't produce enlightenment... just like meditation doesnt... but they both may act as a catalyst. Enlightenment can be also completely spontaneous as well, the catalyst being suffering, previous life experiences...or no catalyst at all. Simply because enlightenment is fundamentally prior and all "causes" or held within it. It is Absolute.

It will be total Omniscience. It isn't one thing and it can't be explained here. But it is Omniscience.

Yes you did. You just forgot. You dealt your own cards then removed the dealer from the game. And now your pissed about the hand you got. Oh well. Get over it

Yes, the mind wants a ground Of course you assume your keys are "there"...you are acting out a role in a most elegant play. As long as you imagine they are there, that's all that is required. The mind is the only fuel necessary.

Quantum mechanics debunked materialism decades ago. But no one wants to acknowledge the ramifications of what was uncovered by guys like Neils Bohr, Einstein, and others. Simply because its so outlandish. It's like something out of a science fiction movie. But the kicker is that science fiction movies themselves had to come from somewhere. The mystical nature of reality is laid bare - its just that our logical minds turn the other cheek. It's simpler for us to imagine there is an external reality -because whether there is or not has no bearing on the fact that we live a world that says there is

There is nothing wrong with him other than he is a selfish individual. The word individual is selfishness.