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@numbersinarow I sometimes struggle with cynical thought and I recorded an audio clip a little while back that I think is helpful. I know at some point I have to let go of all the cynical thoughts, so I'm planting those seeds. If you're interested in listening to it, I'd be interested to know what you think about it. It's about 13 minutes long and you might not like the style, but maybe you will. It's a google recording public link: https://recorder.google.com/536f2cea-5f6e-4fe2-b223-5a394298bec6

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Growth. Advancement. Survival mechanisms. Evolution. The problem is, you want me to zoom in on what you are zoomed in on and since I’m not, you are invoking near infinite complexity and acting as if since I have not acknowledged the existence of such complexity through my keyboard, that I am oblivious to such complexity. As predicted above, you want to expand upon the broad strokes and the reason is because you want me to come into the constructs of your world, which arrogantly and ignorantly assumes the constructs in my world are inferior or non-existent. You are proving my point.

Sure, I’ll qualify myself. It’s not necessary but you think it is because it can’t be otherwise. Maybe you mean “inevitable”? Everything exist for everything else. Evolution is very slow. No one controls it and it unfolds based on previous unfoldments. As a species and civilization, we are still highly undeveloped, and to an extent that is lost on 99.999% of the population. Elon exists for the same reason McDonald’s does. Because they were natural manifestations that stemmed from earlier manifestations. They will continue to exist until the aspects of evolution reject them over long periods of time. My mind understood this 1.5 decades ago and much has been added to it since. I know you would like to expand upon the broad strokes above but I don’t care to because you have your world and I have mine. Because I don’t fixate on the same facet of reality as you at any given time does not mean I’m oblivious to the facet. I hope you’ll adjust your heuristic.

Data analytics / pattern analysis + machine learning of custom designed heuristic models. At some point, these will be combined to predict the future with a high degree of accuracy. What’s more powerful than a prediction machine?

@Lila9 yeah, that happens. I imagine it’s quite common in superficial relationships where the girl doesn’t want anything to do with the guy or she doesn’t feel safe or know how he’ll respond. My girlfriends wanted to get pregnant and couldn’t stand my refusal to have sex during their ovulation windows. I wouldn’t recommend having sex without condoms with random hookups but I do recommend it in relationships. Sex with a condom is like getting a back massage with a ski jacket on.

Hmm, I thought it was but I could have been wrong and just got lucky a thousand times. Maybe they were infertile, or maybe I am. Lol. Yeah, I’m going to remove that line because it could be wrong. Thanks. They all got pregnant after me, so either I’m infertile or it worked. Or it just wasn’t in the cards.

I think I'm going on like 6 or 7 years with no sex and am not bothered by it because the cost is too high. To get sex, you have to give something in return. It's possible you're more concerned about how others would perceive you if they knew you weren't getting any. If that's going on, reject the conformist ideals. For those who've never had sex, it might help if you find a girlfriend and have sex with her 500 times. Do that 2 or 3 times. It seems like only about 25% of girls have the good stuff, so try to get one of those. Eventually, you'll look down at it and wonder, "what am I doing?". That's when it loses all it's magic. The thrill fades away and only comes back momentarily, which can be handled in a swift minute. Sex is not as important as it seems to be when we're younger.

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haha. Yes, I figured out what was going on. I was making a very specific point and intentionally omitted much about reality, including the sun and the stars, because it wasn't relevant to the point I was making. That doesn't mean the sun and the stars are missing from my perspective. Maybe my communications conveyed things I didn't intend or maybe you incorrectly assumed that my perspective was limited because I was focusing on a singular aspect. But I was focusing on a singular aspect, not because I sit around and focus only on it, but because I was wondering why seemingly intelligent people would omit an obvious truth, so I was just trying to figure that out and to do that, I had to focus on the singular aspect. You're doing it again! I appreciate if you're being helpful but why are you assuming I don't have perspective on this? How do you know I don't have more perspective on it than you? You've assumed way too much. Is it possible you used a faulty heuristic? 😂 Joking bro! It's all good.

@Keryo Koffa I thought you used your new superpower to edit the test results but that's not the case because the results are an image. How many attempts did it take you to get all 100s? I'm guessing 3. Impressive.

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"My therapist thinks I have a preoccupation with vengeance.... we'll see about that!" Here's my ironclad argument: The test algorithm conflated sadism with a value for justice. If I see someone beat a dog, I have a desire to beat that person, but not beat them to death, just enough so they never beat another dog, so they learn their lesson. When I see evil causing harm, I'm ok with the evil doer receiving pain as punishment. I don't like it when any being suffers, I wish it weren't the case. If a finger snap could fix it, I would choose that over inflicting pain. Ultimately, my goal is to prevent further suffering, not to indulge in it. I'm pretty sure this is correct 😂

You can't operate on this mindset. Failure cannot be an option. It would only be fruitless if you allowed it to be. Don't allow it. When it comes to decisions this big, you have to fully commit. If you fully commit and it turns out that you didn't gain what you sought, it would not be a waste. It's hard to waste life. All experience has some value, IMO.

It is interesting. My mother was very sadistic. Give me some time and I'll figure out an ironclad argument for why I'm not 😂

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Test is bullshit. I can't stand to see others in pain...unless they deserve it!

I felt like this in my late twenties. Had I had the option to retreat, I probably would have. I wanted retreat because I was tired of resenting society. 2 or 3 years in a village might have done me some good but I can't say it would have been better. Either way seems fine. Both paths can be fruitful in terms of growth and experience. Both are challenging and come with their own sacrifices. You have two options. Act on impulse or guide yourself by analysis. Analysis is best but requires a lot of work and the questions therein are not easy to answer. Some questions might be impossible for you to answer, which is the problem I ran into. This is why Know Thyself is one of the highest pearls of wisdom. If you knew yourself well enough, it'd be much easier to make the right decision. I think it comes down to your values and what you need most to put yourself in the position you want to be in.

@Keryo Koffa If you do this a lot, you can save time by clicking on "console" and hit enter after pasting this: document.designMode = document.designMode === 'on' ? 'off' : 'on'; Even faster, save it as a bookmarklet on your bookmark bar and clicking it will toggle design mode on/off.

Life demands our engagement and it demands more from some than others. You're lucky not to be one who it demands little from. The greater the trial, the greater the victory. You persist because it’s how you become fit for greater advancement. You weather the storms up this fucked up hill we call life and you will be made strong by it. That strength is your reward, and you will be glad you earned it. Challenge God to drop it all on you. Do his worst. There's nothing God can do to break you. BEG for it. Stand in defiance and refuse to be torn down. You will break. You will cry. But you will persist and in the end, you will arrive at peace and you will see the hill was intentional. Gather the will to make it up the hill. The hill is much easier to climb if you remove unhappiness and add happiness. These are two different things. Start by eliminating as much unhappiness and stress as you can, which include addressing the basics: improve your sleep, fine-tune your diet, and get regular exercise. Also, identify and reduce sources of stress, which can be tricky, for example, I loved playing speed chess, but it was making my heart race and spiking my adrenaline 20+ times per day, which I enjoyed, but it wasn't serving me, even though I thought it was. Add happiness by figuring out what you actually enjoy that is healthy, and make sure you give yourself some of that. Meanwhile, build your vision. You've been given an opportunity to make something of this thing and to see what you can turn it into. No pressure, no diamonds. Self-direction audio clip: https://recorder.google.com/ebd0c7bc-ff59-428e-a6d8-c0ec3c214990 The evolutionary law audio clip - https://recorder.google.com/e24eb57b-b9ce-4b04-bf98-32481df98027

The first death post triggered mine, the second one you’re referring to. Maybe the first two triggered this one.

I'm trying to realize it but I can't. There is literally only one thing I condemn like this. It's mass deception. First it was it was Trump, now it's Trump and Elon, but ONLY because people are deceived. If people weren't deceived, I wouldn't care about Trump or Elon. I don't have any other political gripes besides this. Not even sure you can call it political. Given this, you still feel confident I'm stuck in green?

But in reality, they do, and Elon exploits it. I don't like that exploitation. It seems like you're saying you're aware of the exploitation I'm aware of, but it doesn't bother you the same way it bothers me. Is that right? @Leo Gura Can you explain? I am defending what I think is true. I care about truth in the sense that I believe it's how to stamp out evil. I don't hate evil. I hate falsehood because evil can't exist without falsehood. Once evil is here, I understand it is here. Which is why I don't hate Musk. I hate the believed falsehood. I'm not out here demonizing Musk's pollution stacks or flipping out about Gaza. I'm trying to figure out if there might be some of what you say is in me but I'm not sure if you've read me accurately. Obviously I respect your opinion and will seriously consider what you say but I want to make sure you aren't painting me into green sjw box that I don't think I belong in. Edit: If people didn't fall for the Musk propaganda, I would pay no mind to Musk. The only reason he's worth calling out is the same reason Trump is worth calling out. Because when there's mass falsehood and deception being spread, it doesn't sit right with me. And I will protest that like a SJW. But nothing else.

Do you not value anything? Why be unbiased? You can choose your biases. I don't know enough about you to put you into a box...yet, but I'm learning! Like you said, if the left just so happens to be right on this, so be it. Also, the thing I dislike most about Elon is not Elon. It's the lie that he's benevolent. I appreciate that. And thanks for letting me probe your intelligence and putting up with me. Honestly, when looking at some of his videos, something about him makes me feel sad and I feel sorry for him. So I totally recognize he's a human doing the best he can but I also recognize he's highly narcissistic and he goes out of his way to spread the message that he's benevolent. I'm not going to just conjure up the sad videos and ignore what he's done with Twitter, how he supports Trump, his regular attitude, his record of deception, and most importantly, his ongoing brand-awareness campaign to paint himself as a benevolent genius. These things do not point to benevolence. What really gives me confidence in my read is that I know he wants people to think that. When a narcissist billionaire wants people to think that and then floods the zone with that sentiment and people start believing it, that's what I have a problem with. If he has to deceive to be seen as benevolent, that removes him from my definition of benevolent.

@aurum Thanks for responding. I agree to some extent with much of what you said but much of it is too simplistic and some of it is pure fallacy. For example: My shortcut/heuristic attempts to track and keep count of deceptions for use as a tool to navigate reality. The process is certainly fallible. I don't know with 100% certainty and neither do you. The difference is, I'm confident in my reads and you're not. You see my confidence as bias and your yielding of judgement as wisdom, but what if I told you that my confidence is not bias and your yielding is not wise? You can point to margin of error as reason to not judge reality but this collapses quickly. I hope you'll unpack this very sneaky, likely unconscious, tactic you're using here. I can see it being wise to yield your judgements if you want to be in a passive relationship to reality. But I don't think it's wise to be in the midst of reality and making claims about it without attempting to discern what is true about it. As you mentioned, the intricacies of reality do not lend themselves to true/false boolean assignments. You're right. The disagreement is this: I have dealt with your position but you have not dealt with mine. I acknowledge these How much good Elon has produced for humanity. I'm fully on board that he's most likely a net positive for humanity and has brought immense value. I'm not saying he's a piece of shit, although he is, but I am not saying anything like that. OMIT THAT. I'm not saying he shouldn't exist I'm not saying he is fully selfish, I know he's human. I'm aware that everyone has in them the innocence of the child. I'm not new to consciousness work. Also, I am not a leftist and I don't have a leftist agenda against him. If you stop painting me into whatever box you're painting me, maybe you can see what I'm trying to say. I will attempt once more: If you recognize 10 instances of Musk flat out bullshitting, and you say: What do you do with those judgements? It seems to me you simply say "he's human, just like the rest of us. he has good qualities too", and that's the extent of what you do with it. Notice how you might pat yourself on the head here and call yourself wise for yielding your judgement. Now, if he lies 100 more times, will you say: And what will you do with those 100 instances? My guess is, yield your judgement and pat yourself on the head some more. What about 1000 more times? Will you say: If you don't make a negative judgement onto reality when someone continually lies and deceives and manipulates the truth and spreads falsehood, I have to tell you, you are the biased one. Not a wise one. Case in point, Trumpists. They hear about and see the deception with their own eyes and what do they do with it? "so what... he's still good". BIAS! Like the Trumpists, even if I could get you to admit he's highly deceptive, you would still argue that he has more virtue than vice or that even if he only has 20% virtue, that's enough for you to call it good that his main driver is benevolence and not self-interest. You cannot dismantle what is being said here because that's actually how truth works. I already know every defense you could take and none of them line up with reality. FYI, there's much more evidence beyond an extraordinary record of deception that points to the opposite of benevolence.