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I’m sure our tax dollars will pay for a thorough bug sweep. The jet is really nice and sleek. Of course Trump couldn’t say no. Now that he’s actually one of the richest men on the planet from his various schemes and cons, it’s interesting to consider if he’d put power on the back burner and spend more time basking in opulence. In Trump’s mind, the most successful person is the person who can play other people the best. So when he asks himself the question, “who is more successful than me”, the answer is no one. Now with the unfathomable riches he’s bringing in, from the billion dollar shit coin scheme, the insider trading, charging 5 million dollars a pop for guests to just breath near him for 30 minutes, the 100k Chinese watches, and the hundreds or thousands of other schemes in play, he’s making all that money by playing other people for fools, and no one else in human history has made it as far as him in this game. I could totally see him just not giving a fuck about politics anymore now that he’s beat the game. He’s going to auction off the U.S to the highest bidder, collect billions in bribes, manipulate the market, and just dip. Lol. I mean… maybe? He’s publicly displaying a much more opulent tendency that he was in his first term. Sharing videos of golden Trump statues, lavish real estate in Gaza, gold-plating the Oval Office, on and on. Then, he shared a video about becoming pope. That pope video could be a signal that he’s ready to move on from politics.
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Not sure if this has been formally explored, but it should be. We need a model centered around Need for Cognition. Such a model could offer a foundational lens through which we understand the cognitive stratification of the population, not in terms of IQ, but in terms of how much individuals engage with complexity, nuance, and abstract reasoning, and the implications of those. Imagine what we could uncover: What if the 50th percentile or lower accounted for 95% of authoritarian followers? What if NFC predicts ideological rigidity, susceptibility to propaganda, political indifference, etc. What if low NFC correlates with social conformity, religion, or preference for dogma over ambiguity, while high NFC predicts skepticism, internal consistency, logical coherence, truth-acceptance, etc. Could NFC percentile be a more predictive trait than IQ or Big Five openness when it comes to worldview formation? What if it was even more fundamental to worldview construction than the Big 5? We’ve built entire psychological models around surface traits with MBTI, Big 5, etc. But NFC is a cognitive-energy preference that could explain why people process the world the way they do, and why some people never even see complexity to begin with. A percentile-based NFC model could reframe how we think about everything from polarization, education, persuasion, mental health, etc. Maybe 10% increments are too granular.
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In a word: Discernment. Media outlets have descended because their viewers demand certain narratives be upheld, or at least, not attacked, which makes it challenging for them to only bring you what is true. Priority #1 is to feed easy narratives to those who don’t know how or don’t want to question, and if they can fit the truth in there, then great, but truth isn’t their top priority. You need to be up-to-speed on all forms of psychological trickery and deception, especially the kinds used by marketers, politicians, etc. When you watch Chenk from Young Turks, you need to be able to discern what he’s up to. Analyze commercials and understand how they’re working. What tactics are they using? What audience are they targeting. How big is the audience, etc. Tese types of inquiries build discernment. You have to practice making reads and wait for them to be confirmed or disconfirmed. Over time, discernment builds. That said, you should be pretty safe in trusting what credible media outlets are left. AP, Reuters, NPR, Axios, and a few others. But always leave room for them to be mistaken on details, and get good at separating fact from opinion and don’t give opinions much weight. For example, today, the Trump regime said they’re considering suspending Habeus Corpus or whatever. That’s a fact I accept because I heard it straight from the horses mouth, but when it comes to fleshing out the implications of that fact, I will not rely much on punditry commentary. I do consume commentary but I don’t automatically buy it without applying my own critical thinking and exploration. I often use ChatGPT to get to the bottom of things. Today, I asked it was is Habeus Corpus, when in the past it has been suspended and why, and what the implications of its suspension are. After that inquiry, I don’t need commentary, unless there’s something I missed, which I can always inquire further into if I come across it. Point is, never just trust someone to tell you what’s true.
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If it were the 50s and we were figuring out how to win so blacks could just exist, and if Dem politicians were trying to further that cause by calling for reparations, I’d say they need to avoid any mention of that because the attack ads would kill any chance they had. That’s not conceding to the right. It’s operating within the bounds of what the electorate finds acceptable. The electorate doesn’t like men in women’s sports. Yes, it’s not a real issue, but the electorate will be manipulated into thinking it is. And you have to deal with that reality. I just saw a lefty chick running for congress on the Piers Morgan show. Piers asked her if she thought it was okay for trans women to play in female sports. She answered yes, then Piers called her position absurd because he knows he has the backing of the majority. The electorate is nowhere near being open-minded enough to see her as anything more than a confused or sick fool. This is just the current reality. It seems like a huge gamble to continue on with anything that resembles support for woke. It could end up working in the long run, but short term, it’s gonna lose.
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We’re not conceding to the right. We’re saying to get rid of the baggage because the average citizen is too easily manipulated by it. Even with your framing, they’ll still be able to implement effective attacks. They/them ads will still continue to roll. My idea of a good strategy is to take away their most effective attacks. Give them no culture war attack lines, then what will they have left? Not much. You’d have a much higher chance of beating them this way.
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That's all true. 100% agree. But the narrative they latched onto resonated with them precisely because it was either that one or the other one. It was a binary choice. They chose a side, then the billionaires and algorithms reinforced their decision as well as prompted many to join out of memetic desire, tribalism, etc. I had a friend whose young girlfriend asked him "What are we, Democrats or Republicans?". lol. See, people want to know which side they're on. They choose whichever team aligns best with their identity, as I'm sure you know. Once they choose a team, they do not switch easily. This is why I think your strategy will not work. I agree with you on how malleable the psyche is, but the point I'm making is, once the psyche builds its identity around a tribe or ideology, undoing that is not as simple as you make it sound. Messaging alone, even if consistently, perfectly delivered, would not be enough.
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But how did the current narrative become dominant? A massive coalition self-organized in rejection of the counter-narrative because they despised it. Their cups are already full, and I don’t think it'll be easy to empty them. You're not just talking about creating new, appealing narratives, you're talking about dismantling deeply entrenched structures and replacing them entirely. So, what pathway do the Dems have to create a more dominant narrative?
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I get it, but I think that would just amp up the culture war because it’s still saying “yeah, we’re for this, and you’re not, and you’re weird and overly obsessed with this stuff”. I see it boiling down to the same ideological disagreements because the right would relentlessly press for the left to state their positions and sooner or later, Dem politicians would be at podiums saying “ yes, I think trans is ok”. Lol. I do think your proposed framing is much more solid than anything we’ve seen, and definitely the way to go if this stance was adopted, but sooner or later it would distill down to the same culture war disagreements, and would very likely lose. Maybe not as badly, but lose nonetheless. If the Dems decide to keep this rhetoric, then I agree with you, they should adopt your stance. It could pay off in the long term, if they managed it right, but probably not by next election. Woke has too much baggage for now, no matter how you frame it, and the Dems don’t have nearly enough influence to offload that baggage. I suppose it could work if you get lucky with transmission.
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I understand the idea, and it sounds good, I just don’t think it’s gonna work. The way I see your strategy playing out is just amping up the culture war. You can’t simply dominate the frame with “yeah, we’re all about that Woke, and you’re wacky and weird for making it a big deal”. That’s never gonna work because the majority would disagree in body, mind, and spirit, so a dominant frame will not get you there with the current citizenry. I’m sure it could be effective to a degree, but not effective enough. Besides, it takes extraordinary character to dominate frame like that, so is it really feasible to train the Dems on that? I doubt it. Plus, no single politician or even group of politicians can sway the cultural frame on their own. They’d need constant, concerted effort across media and influencers, and I see no path for that. Also, Kamala did not abandon anything. She tried to avoid it but her history spoke for her, which was capitalized on with the they/them ad.
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All culture war stuff must be quietly abandoned. Not saying toss those values out, just don’t advertise and never crusade on them. The Dems screw themselves when they decorate the White House lawn with rainbow flags. Any advantage it gains is offset 100 or 1000 times over in the other direction. This was clearly a mistake. Kamala might have won without the trans smears. The majority chose a coup-attempt convicted felon over a they/them candidate. Doesn’t matter if she ran on it or not because the opposition successfully made it the main point.
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Or because certain truths, if acknowledged, are powerful enough to destroy their identities.
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Creativity and reason are different realms. Conservatives are usually far more adverse to complexity, nuance, and intellectualism. The left can be adverse too, just not as much. Also, I don’t see the people who would attack you for that as representative of the left. They’re a loud minority. Most people wouldn’t give a shit, as far as I can tell. Maybe it’s mostly the youngsters, which I have little experience with.
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It appears the doubling down is in full effect. I saw a MAGA guy today who said that yes, Trump’s meme coin is a scam, but he still loves him. Then I saw a school teacher who said her school was gonna be losing federal funding and she may lose her job, but that’s OK with her because it’s gonna make America great again, and she cares more about the future for her grandchildren than her job. Lol.
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Joshe replied to PenguinPablo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Loneliness occurs in people who rely too much on the external world for their sense of self. Most people, I’d say at least 80%, need the external world to let them know who they are. With that orientation, when there’s no one around to validate their existence, it often causes sadness, boredom, depression, or fear. To them, loneliness is like an existential crisis. The ones who derive their sense of self from their own critical thinking don’t suffer like that. The same people who suffer from loneliness are the same people who complain about boredom. But if you have a rich inner world and don’t need others to validate your existence, boredom and loneliness are very rare. In other words, loneliness is a consequence of too much extroversion or warped ideas about what one needs to be happy. A rich and secure inner world can solve that problem, but that world can’t be built if you spend all your time extroverting. Just thinking out loud really. Might be some holes in this but there’s definitely some truth to it. -
True. This dude gives off an insightful vibe, which makes his advice seem potentially good. But more often than not, you’d be wasting your time following it.
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Every MAGA member only exist as such because they deceived themselves. They have to keep the truths they're running from at bay. This is why anti-intellectualism is a key element of MAGA and why instead of embracing AI, they talk shit about it and avoid it. They intuit that if they embrace AI, sooner or later it will threaten their psychological stability, and they're right. Most MAGA die-hards joined MAGA precisely because it relieves them from the burdens of complexity, nuance, and critical thinking, and let's them jump straight to being right and righteous. Trump showed them they can be dominant without all that thinking bullshit. "Common sense is all you need". Here are few comments my conservative family members have made make about AI: It doesn't know everything. It can be wrong a lot. It's biased. I think it's evil. A tool of satan. They're afraid of it because they sense it will confirm what their haters have been telling them all along.
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Joshe replied to Justin my mind's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Ego-Reinforcement Through Political Performance (Ideological Peacocks) More often than not, these types argue under the banner of ideology, but they're really serving their own egos—not the cause. 🧠 Nature of the Phenomenon Core Behavior: Active political engagement (online or in person) Motivated not by truth-seeking or civic duty, but by: Feeling superior Gaining attention Performing dominance Owning or embarrassing others Psychological Drive: Ego inflation via ideological combat Avoidance of inner insecurity through external dominance Emotional reward from mockery, certainty, and rhetorical victory It’s best understood as a modifier—a motivational overlay that operates across several existing psychological types, especially: Authoritarian-fused types: it amplifies their public boldness Cognitively insecure types: it helps them mask doubt with volume Passive enablers (online variant): some cross into active performance just for kicks How They Contribute to the System: Amplify and normalize toxic discourse Make extreme takes feel cool or untouchable Create an illusion of widespread belief by flooding the space with performative content Reinforce the group’s belief that their side is smarter, stronger, and more dominant -
Trump started publicly laying the psychological groundwork for a 2028 run. He set up the Michigan rally crowd to chant "3, 3, 3". Then invites guest speaker to podium whose first and only words are "Trump 2028 anybody?" The chanting and messaging were designed to appear organic and to activate mimetic desire (people want what they see others wanting) and utilize emotional osmosis (uncertain supporters absorb the tone and boldness of those around them). These are just a couple of the key mechanisms operating on top of existing psychological pathologies that give Trumpism it's power and resiliency. They serve to normalize, reinforce, and amplify what would otherwise be rejected by society. These are just mechanisms, not the pillars. I think I finally cracked Trumpism. It's a complex model, so not sure when I'll have the time to refine and polish it, but I'll do a post when I can. Interesting stuff that provides far more explanatory power and depth of insight than anything I've come across.
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Those thumbnails are quite different from what he was posting a year or two ago. The current thumbnails seem to be appealing to a desire for low-effort, high-reward magic pill solutions, which attracts a broader audience. So yeah, unless he's just clickbaiting but has good insights in the videos, it looks like he's dispensing with his integrity.
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Cool. Thanks man. Yeah, it's been fun and challenging.
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All the things that go into building a culture. History, transmission of ideas, environmental circumstances like what is or isn't available, survival challenges, the human psyche, etc. All of these sit on top of biology. Together, they create the actual specific thing that can be embraced, the conditions that trigger the embrace, and the means by which it happens. Biology is most fundamental in that culture wouldn't exist without it, but necessity for existence is not the same as causal dominance of specific constructions. That would be like saying gravity prefers skyscrapers because, thanks to gravity, they're the tallest structures on Earth. Saying the soil generates its own seeds is like saying hunger invented lasagna. lol. You've drifted way out there in some wild theoretical bubble bro. I mean, if this was a question on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, and the contestant polled the audience, 90+% would say environment is the main factor in whether someone becomes religious or not. Even people in the 30th percentile would get that one right. My position is that these studies are already likely overstating biology's causal role in ideological subscription because they can't account for realities in which the observed ideologies don't exist. They're only measuring what's there to measure. This is a huge problem. Just because something exists doesn't mean it inevitably exists and it most certainly does not mean it exists because biology called it into existence.
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Not sure if you're trolling Leo or just want to be like him, but this sounds exactly like something he'd say, but probably not about racism. My guess is trolling. If so, I have to admit, it's pretty funny. lol Every now and then you gotta add in a "Ta daaa!" at the end — but don't overdo it or it just seems weird.
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It will make the truly intelligent even more intelligent and the not so intelligent even more cognitive lazy, so they will decline. IMO, a large part of unintelligence is simply having a low need for cognition, so a lot of it comes from people just not wanting to think.
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It follows perfectly if you account for the other things culture is rooted in. The soil can filter what spreads fastest, but it can't grow seeds that don't exist. I asked 4 different AIs which is more causal and the highest for biology was 45%. Gemeni 2.5 puts it at 30%.
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Joshe replied to xeontor's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Because they’re not just trained on large datasets. They’re likely trained on large datasets of historical fallacy/error. In other words, it knows about every error all notable intellectuals have made, errors entire groups and civilizations have made, etc. Then, they can be trained on the structure of the errors, not just the content of them. Once those patterns are in its neural nets, it would have access to the most sophisticated epistemic framework that far exceeds that of any individual who contributed to its training. But of course, it would have no power or relevance in the realm of metaphysics, as it lacks sentience and experiential knowing.