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I don't think it would matter much. Even if she was outed as a shill, people would still be aware of the problem, which is the point. And left-wing media has done and continues to do the majority of the work 😆 They think they're hitting the Rs good here by showing how they peddle in lies. lol. Everyone should halt reporting on this ASAP. But it's too late, it's out now. It will be a centerpiece moving forward. Prediction: At least 2-4 weeks before the election, the Trump campaign will flood the media landscape with ads highlighting Springfield's immigration problem and it will be their most effective effort.

To see Springfield’s Haitian problem, go to timestamp 5:08. Vance was talking about this some while ago, with numbers and charts. If the information contained in this video goes mainstream—which it’s not far from doing, if it hasn’t already—the last thing that will be on people’s minds is lies about pets. It was never about the pets. This will be devastating for Kamala if it goes mainstream. I suspect the Rs will turn the story of the 95lb white lady who had Haitian men tossing mattresses in her yard and yelling at her in Haitian, into an advertisement… if they were smart. It looks like this might be one of the most effective anti-immigrant campaigns ever. Vancǝ is at the heart of it. And who owns Vancǝ? That apǝx prǝdator billionairǝ who studies manipulating the masses (Pǝtǝr Thiǝl, outspoken disciple of Rǝnǝ Girard). Also, one of their main complaints is Haitians can't drive for shit and they're killing people on the road. I lived in Key West in a jam packed trailer park where Haitians made up the majority. Their driving was a common complaint there as well. To say they aren't easy to deal with is an understatement. They usually can't speak much English and they're more often than not boisterous, arrogant, uncooperative, and unwilling to admit wrongdoing. If they wake you up in the middle of the night with loud music or partying, it's your fault. I'm not racist or anti-immigrant but it was annoying, mostly due to their imposing themselves without concern for others. Of course, it's a spectrum—some are more respectful than others, but the majority, IME, were problematic. This is an effective anti-immigrant campaign. What state neighbors Ohio? This problem is less than a 3-hour road trip away from Pennsylvania.

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@Keryo Koffa What are you trying to do with ChatGPTs memory? What is the "Customization" feature? Are you just plugging in all that info you posted and having it collaborate with you from those perspectives? If so, I think you're going to need to give it more context 😂 Can you define your goals here? It seems the main goal is to speed up conscious evolution, but your current goal is to construct a theoretical framework and methodology that can be used to traverse consciousness in the most efficient ways possible, for purpose of discovering its nature, such that you might find insights for manipulating its evolution. Is that right? If so, I really like the ideas in your framework. I've dreamt about such a framework but I've never set out to work on one. That's why I was saying I think you should have some sort of blog or obsidian vault that others can access. You have to know your ideas are inaccessible, lol. They seem like high quality ideas and are efficient for you but too far abstracted for other consciousnesses to easily grasp. I suppose that's part of the problem you'd like to solve. Chat and I did our best to understand your terms: I think it's badass. A true pioneer! I think my biggest interest along these lines is in being able to allow other consciousnesses to see a specific thing. For you to be able to see why they can't see, then take them through each thing they are missing and lead them all the way to seeing the thing they need to see. I'm not sure if this is possible or to what degree it's possible but if it is, that might be the biggest force-multiplier for conscious evolution. It would basically have all psychology mapped out and know with precision what integration is lacking in order to evolve. Something like that. I think your goals are larger but I could see this being an aspect of the system.

If you run an advertisement to prove X, and you prove X where some large portion of 68 million people were looking to see if X were true, then your advertisement was probably successful. In marketing, this is considered a win. It’s not as simple as this but it seems absurd to believe a poll that says a successful debate performance in front of an audience of 68 million was not successful. To demonstrate: It's beyond absurd to believe that because a poll says Taylor Swift's endorsement shows little impact, the impact is little. You have to ask yourself "what is going on here?" Do you just think influencer marketing doesn't influence? Their polls cannot measure this. I recommend the book “Everybody Lies”. It highlights important concepts relevant to this topic. It shows how the 2016 polls and the best pollster in the country were so wrong. Similar dynamics could be going on with this poll. I wouldn’t put stock in them. Also, more and more egos are finding comfort in priding themselves on not being tribal. They fancy themselves independent thinkers. This self-deception seems to be the main reason many are saying things like “I’m open to Kamala but she has to earn my vote”. This ego mechanism could largely skew the polls. It's likely this ego mechanism resists deciding right up till the election and the one's employing it will largely be driven to conform to their geographic status quo. They aren't carefully employing rationality and reason. They will likely be motivated by a mix of tribe, personal impact(emotion), and reason, in that order. Another point: as Hardkill mentioned, there is major incentive to not broadcast much success.

I didn’t say Trump planned it out. That would be absurd. Lol. It would also be absurd to think that Trump’s campaign does not have access to consultants who could provide them with such a strategy. Of course, it’s also possible he just got really lucky to have such a golden opportunity arrive just in time for the big event.

When all the dust settles from the crazy lies like infant murder and pets getting eaten, the general public will be a little more in the know on abortion and immigrant problems, which is the goal. It’s not that the man who says absurd shit has said more absurd shit, which people are inoculated to, it’s that they will have better reasons to vote R. “Don’t want my town to become like Springfield”, is more motivating than “Trump lied again”. Nearly every video I’ve seen by reputable outlets explicitly acknowledge the Haitian population putting strain on the system. It was a city of 55k and now it’s got 20k+ Haitians. Before, when Trump said “they’re taking over”, everyone just thought it was political bullshit. But now, people will know what he’s talking about, and not just with some border or coastal region. This can happen to YOU if Kamala gets in. This is not some idiot flying off the handle. This shit was planned. Trump’s key issue is now receiving millions of dollars in free press. The excitement from the absurdity will die down and what will be left is not Trump’s lies, but fear of your town being taken over. Seems like a solid strategy to me.

@ryandesreu fear, and how easy it gets triggered.

Maybe. My confidence has lowered a bit. I know there are some leaps in here but humor me and try this on: I saw an MSNBC reporter on the ground in Springfield and they said there was no evidence of cat-eating, but there is a real problem with immigrants. Then, I realized, oh shit, if the average person just looks at this to see if the cat thing is true, the immigration angle would become much more effective. Before seeing that, most normies probably couldn't name one city they knew for sure that had immigrant problems. Now they can. Then I thought: How can he get cameras into a good old American city overrun by immigrants? If he simply tells them to go there and look, no one would listen, but if he made some absurd claims, they would. Especially if he doubled down on it. If he just mentioned it in passing, it might not get much attention, so MAKE SURE you say it very loud and drive the point home. If you go back and watch that clip, something seemed off about it. Also, 1.5 days before, Elon Musk, JD Vance, and other high profile peeps were sharing it. It was debunked by the time the debate happened. I find it hard to believe his campaign didn't know that and understand how crazy it seemed. Pretend this is all true for a second and ask yourself, if tens of millions of normies find out about Springfield's immigrant problem, could that significantly impact the vote? Now... what's the #1 line of attack the Rs have? Immigration. I'm not sure if it would be a good move or not, but it seems like it could be. No? If Springfield becomes a talking point from here on out for them, that will confirm it for me.

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@Shodburrito I don't think you're faking who you are. I think you just haven't fully discovered and understood yourself and your values yet. You do care about other people AND you want them to evolve so you can co-create with them. That's a virtue, not a vice. Obviously though, there are issues with integration. If your goal is to reconcile them, I would look to gain deeper insight into myself. Something is causing the inner chaos. You can only solve it by looking inward, not outward, which I suspect you already know. If you're interested, here are some thoughts: Realize your inherent nature, which you did not choose. You just lucked up. You did not earn these with hard work. - Headstrong - Intelligent - Disciplined, deliberate, a whip to those who shirk - High standards. Set the bar high and get over it. - Driven by competence - Problem solver - Visionary Probably helpful ideas: - Realize others did not receive your gifts. They literally cannot help it. They don't know any better. Literally. They do not have the ability to direct themselves the way that you do. From your POV, it's easy. To them, it's the hardest thing. - There's a trap here you must avoid. They are weak but this is not to be used to slander them or look down on them. Do not call them weak out of anger. Imagine how unfortunate it would be if you lacked the gifts you were born with. I think this is the most profitable thread for you to pull on. - Many people wish they had the ability to operate the way you do, but it just isn't in them. This means you should make an effort to be humble when you're around them because it's easy to offend. For example, my vocabulary is shit but it's bigger than most around me. I have to intentionally dumb down my words so they don't think I'm trying to be smart, which would offend. Don't broadcast your intelligence or your gifts. They can already see them, even though they act like they don't. They might come to you in their darkest hour because they know you're the one with the answers and the strength. Let that be the only recognition you need. - Yes, you do care about people. A big heart is not a weakness. You want what's best for them AND you want connection, but these two can conflict because most days, you're probably in results mode and fuck the feelings, let's go. You don't want to be bogged down by bullshit but it's the cost you have to pay if you want a social life. You might have to learn to let loose. - The quality of people matter. Distinguish between acquaintance and friend. Be selective about who gets your attention. I found a few buddies who could put up with my thinking for long enough that I could get some good conversations out of them. Don't invest too much time in people you don't value. - Lastly, your ego, like all egos, wants recognition. From time to time, try to catch that and make a mental note to check it next time. Over time, the ego's desire for recognition diminishes. I hope these ideas might help or lead you to other lines of contemplation that could be profitable.

All eyes on Springfield.

@El Zapato That's a badass movie idea!

I'm not a fan of light vs dark. That is going on but if you've ever known an evil/dark person and saw they cannot help it, then you realize no one can help it and that it's no one's fault. You can try to trace it back to their parents but then you have to trace it back to their grandparents, on and on and on. It can't be traced back. No one is to blame. Sufficient contemplation on this point helped me a good bit.

I'd call it just regular chess, although I think a better analogy is poker. In poker, when your opponent realizes that you're aware of their tactics, they adapt and patch the exploit, necessitating the development of new exploits. Over time, the deceptions become increasingly sophisticated. Now, apply this dynamic to society and those who seek to exploit/manipulate it. Marketers do their tricks and when those tricks become well-known—like many have become in recent years, thanks to the internet—marketers have to devise even trickier tactics. Just as in poker, once these new exploits are identified, they prompt an even deeper layer of deception. If you want to manipulate society, you have to update your methods. Lex Fridman comes to mind. haha I'm pretty sure Kamala's campaign is also engaging in similar trickery, which seems necessary. The whole point of every campaign is influence, which doesn't work if people know they're being manipulated, so the influence has to be hidden. But no doubt, the right is far less integrous in their pursuit of influence.

I think I figured out the deal with this Haitian cat stuff. I knew it was a part of their strategy but I couldn’t figure out why they would do something so stupid. Turns out, it might not be so stupid. Springfield actually is overburdened by Haitian immigrants. The cats are irrelevant. What they wanted was to get everybody to look at the ridiculousness of the claims so the press would take cameras into Springfield and show the American people a real-world example of what danger is coming their way if Kamala wins. Has nothing to do with animals. They played it well.

Betting markets have Kamala up 5 points within 22 hours after debate. I feel like that's significant.

Ahh yes, I didn't think about that. Also, I think some of it is "I'm a careful thinker... I don't just make decisions for no reason".

This isn't just the ideological right either. Have you seen random people in the swing states being asked how the debate shaped their view? It's pathetic that they answer with things like "I think Kamala won but she needs to earn my vote". 😂 WHAT? The fact that half the country is looking at Kamala and Trump and waiting on Kamala to earn their vote is so... something.

"How" meaning? I wonder if it's more "what", than "how". The what directs the how. You think like(how) this because of what? The what seems more fundamental, but maybe I'm just mental! To me, it seems the cause is a change in values. Endlessly stuffing random knowledge and non-stop contemplation into your psyche seems to be let go at a certain point, in favor of something else.

haha, I can tell!

@Keryo Koffa you didn't have to do much work here 😂

Something tells me they knew what they were doing. I assume they were tracking public sentiment and were well aware of perceptions that sprang from the last debate and they planned accordingly. They did a very nice job! 😂

1. Output more important than attributes. Good is irrelevant if the output is bad. If bad produces overall good, which it doesn't tend to, let's go! 2. My chosen paradigm dispenses with useless concepts 3. One has to play a game. 4. Don't go there! 😂 5. I like that! Here's another: Always fascinated by your analysis!

I think ABC was biased but that doesn't necessarily mean their bias made things unfair. If ABC feels it's their responsibility to not be a conduit of blatant, verifiable propaganda and misinformation, that's their prerogative and IMO, it was the responsible thing to do. Had Harris attempted to spread overt falsehoods, I do believe they would have fact checked her as well. Did you notice they let Trump get away with lots of lies but only pushed back on the most blatant ones? If you cross a certain threshold of deception, you get called out... so it seems to me.