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https://youtu.be/dbowmuFxFAo I clipped and privately posted a segment of your video on con-artistry that was really helpful in explaining to a friend the difference between Trump and status-quo politicians. I think it could be really helpful to others as well and thought it’d be a great idea for it to be posted to your clips channel, so just wanted to run that by you. Thanks for all your work and sharing.

A very valid and cautious critique. Skepticism is the guide to truth. But surely you understand what he's saying MIGHT be possible. It might also be possible that he's full of shit. It seems to me that his willingness to cater to skeptics has decreased as he is putting a standard in place that if you want to take part in or progress further with his teachings, then you must have put in ample spiritual work and he's saying that those on the edge or half-assers are free to go if they want. My sense if that he's spent countless hours preaching the merits of open-mindedness for the sake of people opening up to radical ideas but the teaching of open-mindedness is just a means to an end and the real work can only happen once that teaching is embodied. Leo KNOWS that as he evolves, his followers and popularity will decrease and he KNOWS that his teachings will become more cult-like, which is why he previously tried to innoculate followers from it. He KNOWS that he will sacrifice worldly pleasures and be subject to intense rational scrutiny. He knows many followers will fall off. He also knows the courage it takes for a spiritual seeker to even entertain his teachings and he doesn't take that lightly. I don't know Leo personally but I've seen enough to KNOW what I'm saying is the case and even if he's full-on bat-shit, his previous record is more than enough, many times over, to at least entertain the most absurd claims he might make. The subject matter is such that nothing is outside the realm of possibility. Is the worry for his mental health or to defend Truth? If he's off his rocker, he needs no pitty. If seekers are misled, it was meant to be. Carry on Edit: if it turns out to be he's off his rocker, then we can and should dive deeper into it but until then... “All great truths begin as blasphemies.”

@Leo Gura - If NN teks work for 5meo, then average joe shouldn't have a problem. According to my research, this is the case. Could be wrong. Just going off those who seem to be reputable chemists on the clearnet.

The thing is, you have marketable skills and you know how to use them to make money. You've been doing it for 3.5 years. I don't have all the details but it seems like worst comes to worst, you move to a new spot and start again. Should be able to get that done with 5k or less. If you don't have it, borrow it or get a credit card. Whatever you do, don't give in and go back to the corporate world. You've come too far for that. Hopefully, you have at least a little bit of an emergency fund. IMO, this is and will be a win-win situation. You'll be lucky to have experienced a situation where you were in touch with your survival. It makes you take life more seriously. It pushes you another step closer to even greater responsibility and also another step in getting acclimated to fear. Getting more familiar with it, so that one day you can transcend it. Good luck!

According to Hamilton Morris, 5meo is easy to synthesize. It's a long talk but here's the relevant piece - From what I gathered, it's the same process as NN-dmt but with different material.

@FreeThoughtFlow - Your own ego projects onto Leo. You assume that if Leo's words were to come out of your own mouth, that you would be entertaining the ego. Maybe Leo doesn't want to filter his message or hold anything back from what his experience was and he figures it best to cater to the more evolved egos than cater to the ones not aware of projection. Maybe. The way I see it is that he wants to show people what's possible and he uses his story to do that. Is there some form of ego there? IDK. To think about how much he's studied ego, self-deception, etc and practiced awareness and consciousness for thousands of hours, I would think he's transcended his ego a lot more than what you believe. If I'm you, I would have to say to myself. This doesn't make sense. What am I missing? Is this guy an egomaniac or what am I missing? And to me, it would seem as though I'm missing something.

@Nahm Awesome answers. I especially like "God isn't intelligent but God is intelligence." Although I know there's no big man in the sky, the way I was framing it seemed as if a being possessed intelligence and if that was the case me and the being are two separate things, which is a duality, so that perspective would have to be undone to realize non-duality. Ok, Ok, yes, I'm a seeker. lol. I should have said I'm not a hardcore seeker. But maybe that's a lie too. Thank you very much!

@Aaron p - Interesting! Thanks for your reply!

@Nahm - Do you have experience with things like this? Do you think these things are all hogwash, pure coincidence, or fictions created by the mind? I definitely see religious/spiritual seekers creating fictions which they want to be signs, but I'm not a seeker and I'm very skeptical and aware of self-deception. I question pretty much everything and am willing to let anything that's not truth go. So, I just wanted to say that I have no hope for these things to be "signs", but knowing that God is intelligent and that these coincidences are so fuckin crazy, it seems possible. To me, these insane coincidences almost feel like a nudge to get to work on spirituality.

@VioletFlame you're welcome!

@EvilAngel - you're welcome!

@VioletFlame - Yeah it's really interesting! If you're interested in the movie, it's free to watch if you have an Amazon Prime subscription.

@Nahm ahhahaah - That was the exact book I was reading when the I came across the word "coincidence" at the same time it was spoken on TV

@EvilAngel Yes it is. It definitely helps to solidify the magic going on here Thanks for the reply! Gonna look into those terms.

The website is a cheap or free Wordpress theme and looks like it's been put together by a novice. Could have this done for about $100 on Upwork. If he can't invest a few thousand in his web presence, he's probably not successful or either don't know shit about business and marketing. I'd stay away from this one.

I think negative emotions are severely diminished by Enlightenment and I think Emotional Mastery gets you closer to Enlightenment. Would there be a need to master the positive emotions or just the negative ones? For me, it'd just be the negative ones as I'm perfectly content with positive emotions. So we're basically talking about rewiring ourselves to not have thought patterns that bring us to suffer. To do that, we'd need to become aware of those patterns, find their root causes and use awareness and observation to change them. Off the top, I'd venture to say that judgment and attachment/desire are the primary culprits of negative emotion, which are also what Enlightenment teachers preach to undo. For me and my situation, the need for Emotional Mastery or the elimination of negative emotions that I impose on myself is currently more important than Enlightenment, and I think that's probably the case for most people. To become calm and centered and not so worried or agitated that you can't even practice spirituality. Strategically, this could potentially fast-track you to Enlightenment. Emotional Mastery is a good target but I think that if you could reduce the negative emotions causing you the most suffering, you'd be happy just cutting those down by 50% and then Mastery might be a waste of time. Either way, I agree that this is an important subject and definitely something to consider.