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So the dominant signal here is you are strongly motivated to create and maintain inner and relational harmony. Motivational profiles: Regulation – motivated to stabilize the self Connection / Care – motivated to stabilize others Understanding – epistemic motivation / making sense of things Building – instrumental motivation / making things work in reality Expression – symbolic or aesthetic motivation / giving form to experience Every profile is willing to engage in friction, but each is willing to suffer different kinds of friction more than others: Regulation -> emotional instability, inner chaos Connection / Care -> relational strain, responsibility for others Understanding -> confusion, uncertainty, cognitive overload Building -> failure, iteration, constraint, inefficiency Expression -> vulnerability, exposure, ambiguity of reception What matters enough to hurt for? Which difficulties do you engage in that you don't regret? Which of these frictions do you not resent over time? What kinds of problems are you happy to keep showing up for? Which difficulties don't feel like a waste of time? These are powerful questions for understanding not only who you are, but what you truly value. When you keep showing up for a certain class of problems, you are implicitly saying those problems are the most valuable ones, thus pointing to your actual values as opposed to the one's on paper. Repeated behavior under friction tells all.

Your mother is there, just oblivious. Don't diminish her for that. She's as real as you. You want everyone else to know the things you've discovered so you don't have to be alone, but that is asking for too much. They almost always don't have the capacity, courage, interest, etc. You're own your own in your conscious explorations.

Then you're asking me to surrender the most stable principle evident inside reality as I know it: cause and effect. I've been there. It doesn't offer anything except escape, which is quite the cost that I'm not willing to pay. You can train yourself to ignore causality, but you’re still operating inside it whether you acknowledge it or not. It’s bypassing the very structure that makes understanding possible in the first place. Ignoring the most core principle of reality does not seem wise to me. Anyway, we're getting nowhere. I'll consider your thoughts. Thanks for the back and forth. I hope you're doing well.

The "G" in "God" is a progression. Before you could spell the word, you first had to learn what "G" was. Then, what did it take for you to understand what "God" is? Did a very complex process precede that understanding? So complex that you can't even map it out? Did you understand "God" before you understood what a "G" was? You'll say "NO! It happened and then I realized the "G" doesn't even exist". Then, you come back to reality and I ask you to clarify yourself and you try your best to convince me a fucking "G" doesn't even exist. lol

I know you're not really cold. It's a defense mechanism to protect your big heart. lol

Can you say you know anything that isn't the result of a complex progression? You don't just "arrive". There's ALWAYS a progression, and that progression is complex and varied.

I see. Well, I admit that I don't think I'm that spiritually advanced, so I always leave room for error in these types of convos and remain open-minded. Still - I know human psychology very well. I know that when people experience a "surrender" (I've also experienced this), it's not truly a spontaneous thing. It's the result of a long process and an eventual culmination of many things they've processed, which is incredibly complex if you mapped it out. That's all I was saying. If you collapse it into a single thing, I think it would serve to confuse more than facilitate. The path to "surrender" is long an arduous. One doesn't simply magic wand their way like Mario.

I'm not 100% sure of anything except consciousness exists and certain things within it cannot intelligently be denied. Consciousness can only know a thing by a process of discovery (fact). In your consciousness, what led to you knowing you were wearing frosted glasses most of your life? I can't tell you exactly what, but I can tell you the discovery was the result of a very complex process, involving much contemplation, observations, questions, etc. This I know, the same as I know 1 + 1 = 2. The structure that underlies 1 + 1 = 2, is the very structure that supports my claim that you cannot know the map until you traverse it. Taking off the glasses involved much complexity. You don't simply "take off the glasses".

There's really just one rule: Take care of yourself. That's what reality really wants for you. Because if you can give it that, that means you're doing your job as a human. It just so happens that if you take care of yourself, reality will take care of you. This is literal truth. Not that it will be easy, but it will be manageable and keep you in the light and keep upward trajectory possible. If you don't take that initiative and participate in that, then brother, as you already know, you will suffer immensely. I know the things that lurk in the darkness of that world and they only grow stronger when you isolate yourself and double down in telling the world to fuck off. So, get back into the world and figure out how you can contribute. You may have to forgive yourself and/or others for certain things. And you may have to forgive reality for being so brutal with you. But if you can do that, you can make amends. That's your path forward. Forgive reality. Forgive others. Give that much for a little while and WATCH how your life turns around. It will be quick to show you that's all it wanted all along. If you submit to reality, the quality of your life will almost certainly skyrocket in as little as 3-6 months. I was once at rock-bottom because I rejected reality. When I submitted, reality paved the way out of the darkness, like literal magic! The greater the sinner, the greater the saint.

Is that how Truth works? Does it toggle on or off depending on your conceptual/perceptual frame? If it's true in one, it must be true in the other.

Think of a game where your avatar is on a tiny sliver a map and you can only see a small portion of the map and the only way to see the rest of the map is to traverse it. If the player is approached by a lone peaceful traveler and the traveler tells the player the truth of the map, they cannot know for sure. They have to make the difficult trek. They cannot avoid the complexity.

Only once you know that. From your vantage point, there is no complexity, but only because you've traversed a very complex landscape to find that truth.

But you have go through complexity to see that. Otherwise, how can one know they didn't miss anything? lol. You can tell a newbie - "Just surrender and let go", but that will almost never work, IMO.

You can't have complexity without the thinking mind. But one does not even start a meditation practice without the thinking mind. How did one arrive at the idea of meditation? Did they read a book full of abstract ideas and then pondered those ideas with the thinking mind before they decided to give it a try? Did they put "meditation" on the slate of consciousness for examination? And when they meditated, did they observe the nature of thought and draw conclusions about what they experienced relative to what the book said? Of course they did. This is all complex (not simple).

It's not that minds love to create complexity, it's that they strive for answers/solutions. It's in seeking the solutions where complexity arises, but when most minds don't have any problems they're trying to solve, they are happy at rest and actually prefer simplicity. Some minds have a high Need for Cognition and some are neurotic and some are just bored. These minds DO seek and manufacture complexity, but this isn't the majority of humans. The majority of humans avoid complexity as much as they can. Also, "complexity" is relative. What I'm saying is you cannot avoid complexity. Can you find a solution or the truth without delving into the complex? Most often not. The whole process of problem-solving and truth-seeking is inherently complex. You're seeking abstract answers to abstract things. You could only say the truth is simple once you've traversed the complex landscapes and found it such. You do not arrive at "the truth just is" without engaging with much complexity.

Most minds love simplicity. Also, one can not know what is unnecessary complexity without having traversed that landscape and seen their folly, so how can it know when it's being too simple or too complex? You can tell it "Hey, you're being too simple, think harder" or "you're being too complex, don't think as much", but how can the mind even have a good clue as to which is right? Only one way to know.

Your beef is with reality. Play its game and abide by its rules and both you AND reality will be happy. There is no other way out. Doesn't matter if you're 25 or 90. It always asks the same thing. Play by the rules: facilitate evolution. Even if you choose to not facilitate, it will you use as an example to show others what they will become if they shirk the responsibility.

All this shows is that you can be a despised villain of earth and still not have many hoops to jump through to be seen as a peacemaker.

😂Fuckin mirror effect, obviously!

Nah bruh - you can't let them know they have the upperhand. They have to know when push comes to shove, you're the shot-caller. Women actually have a need to be dominated in this way so they can feel safe. (most women) You're dealing with a Christian, which introduces interesting variables. They can be tamed, but it's different. There probably aren't any books out there about it. Let me know if you want to strategize. This is right up my alley. Lol, . "How to convert an evangelical female". I'd have my fucking work cut out for me. I never shy away from a challenge though.

@Inliytened1 What do you make of THIS reality? The everyday reality. Here and now. Is it just an illusion? Is it some sort of purgatory? Some sort of lesser reality?

Princess, you got a person who makes a post on a forum about how their life isn't working out the way they'd like. Then, someone does their best to respond (which is largely the purpose of online forums), and you basically tell the responder they're deluded because they don't operate from your perspective: "You want to save the world, but you can't. Life is expressing itself. Life doesn't need help, it doesn't need anything. It plays itself out. Even your response is also an expression and my comment to you is neither needed nor not needed." It's true, they can't save the world. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't try to respond in a way they feel would be helpful, right? You're cold. Open that heart chakra girl! TF is wrong with you? 😂

Give 20% and let them think it's 45 when it's more like 80.

I've witnessed some crazy shit, but knowing all was never a thing. I've rode light beams across the universe. I've experienced eternity in a single second. I've bent time and space. I've seen literal sound and heard sight. And before all that, I was questioning consciousness since I was 4 years old. But I've never experienced omniscience. Based on all my travels, I feel very safe in saying that if I did experience it, I would chalk it up as either a transient delusion or an interesting truth that isn't compatible with the current reality. Not to diminish the absurdity of it all - it's all absolutely insane and what can be imagined can be witnessed, but when the dust settles and you have to explain your experience and function in the reality before you this very moment, it's irresponsible to cling to your imaginatory revelations. THIS reality YOU are in NOW is THE actual reality that exists. If it's not clear, THIS reality is DOMINANT for A reason. You want to escape it or want it to be different, but reality demands THIS reality be dominant. My middle name is david, btw. lol

It doesn't matter what is happening outside myself right now. Since I'm talking to you, I assume you're a human on some kind of keyboard, because the dream requires that degree of coherence in order to persist. And since you mentioned a "chair", my guess is you're in a chair right now instead of a bed. But these are only abstractions that I come to be aware of as reality provides me this information. Reality reveals the truth of these abstractions as it unfolds. I do not know them before they present themselves. But omniscience is the state of knowing all. So maybe you shouldn't have used the word "omniscient". Maybe should have used a word like "construct-aware"? At the least, admit the word "omniscience" was misused.