Violinpracticerdude

As I rationalist I see that most people on here aren't rationalists but many used to be. What caused you to feel that rationalist isn't correct?

Actually I do practice playing it.

As someone who practices the violin, that picture is neat!

NEVER take a psychedelic or spiritual experience literally, or you WILL get into a LOT of trouble and you WILL regret it. Don't listen to the Actualized.org cult, think for yourself.

"Inside of consciousness," what do you mean by that?

It's pretty obvious I'm the one experiencing those experiences, a five-year-old can tell you that.

I've followed rationality and it's told me that spiritual experiences ARE genuine FOR THE PERSON HAVING THEM. They tell you about yourself, but interpreting them as speaking of reality perverts and distorts the experiences.

Most responses I get from people here are nondual jargon, yeah. But people HAVE left the Actualized Church of Leo the Gura thanks to Unspirituality's content. And yeah why don't these nondualists go and take the test? Wait they live like everyone else but like to talk to others about their repackaged form of "God". As you seem to have quite a few posts, I assume you once bought into Leo's nondual stuff? What snapped you out of it?

Can you refer to me the Buddhist teachings that have been verified by quantum physics?

I had left unfortunately because I had had to go somewhere. I do believe that Unspirituality has great content and Leo, while good-intentioned, is making some big mistakes. I appreciate our discussion.

I've actually spoke with him through E-mail and while he never asked me to spread his stuff, I believe that Leo and the Actualized.org community are good-intentioned but mislead, and so I like to post his stuff here to wake you guys up and challenge your views. Note that I'm spreading his stuff because I think it's useful. I've thought about his stuff and I mostly agree with it. Although I'm certainly not spiritual at all it's interesting how he redefines spirituality from a natural perspective whereas Leo spouts nondual nonsense that's even dangerous, such as saying that psychedelic drugs "enlighten" you. For years I've wondered if there's a supernatural world but all "proofs" of it just fell flat and I've also noticed how New-Age spiritual people say nonsense about reality. His videos on New-Age spiritual whackos are interesting and he can really point out how people WANT to believe in crazy things. Whether you agree with his views or not, he's definitely right in that people are susceptible to crazy beliefs and even WANT to believe in things such as you're a soul in a body, even though science says otherwise. Is it not possible that Leo himself is spreading misinformation? Unspirituality could very well be malevolent and laughing at me getting him views, but so could Leo, although I believe that Leo has nothing but the best intentions. But even with noble intentions he seems to be misleading a lot of people, promoting pseudoscience and getting people to do drugs. Thanks for your reply.

http://www.unspirituality.com/horror-consciousness-denial-reality-spiritual-belief/ A great article from Unspirituality that demonstrates how people escape from reality with religious and spiritual beliefs. What is your take on the article? Whether or not you agree with his rationalist views it IS true that with religion and spirituality people escape from the horrors of reality and the horror of being conscious of this chaotic and violent existence.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329762-700-consciousness-on-off-switch-discovered-deep-in-brain/ That's one example. Now, ask yourself, how many studies by REPUTABLE publications and sources, have claimed that consciousness is outside the brain? Sure on the Internet you'll have lots of people talk about how the current model is just "dogmatic materialism" but if that's so why not go and prove that consciousness isn't from the brain and win a Nobel Prize?

You can believe that the paranormal exists, but that doesn't make it real. If it was real then why does scientific research say that consciousness is created in the brain?

As to your "paranormal" experience, would it not be a simpler explanation to say that you've simply seen things? No amount of belief makes something true.