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On "The "Dump" or " Stall Phase" : [...]When you Start to detoxify mercury (and this is unique to mercury) you will feel better for a while, then feel worse for a while, and then start feeling better again. We call this difficult period the “Stall phase” or “dump phase.” It sets in Six or nine months from first starting to detoxify. Detoxifying during the dump phase is a bit like driving on ice. It is not a good idea to make any sudden changes of speed or direction or you’ll drive off the road. Just keep at it .

[...] if you don’t feel anything you can double your dose on the next and every new round until you find the dose that is appropriate for you. The appropriate dose is where you feel something is happening but it is tolerable. The side effects shouldn’t be so bad that you can’t chelate every week or every other week. Feeling tired, cranky and depressed the day after the round ends is normal. Once you have found your initial tolerated dose stay on it for about six months.

25MG is a good starting dose for DSMA if I never had amalgam fillings. No need to buy smaller pills of DMSA. I do regret not having bought more ALA. I only purchased ONE 12.5 MG bottle, which is good for a start, but I'll have to make another order and pay like 20€ just the delivery. Initially I didn't buy it so that I DONT EVEN HAVE IT AROUND, so I'm not tempted to just yolo it and start with too big of a dose of ALA, but being TOO carefull now costs me more money and more time. Ala is avaliable in any nutrition shop but mostly at bigger doses like 150mg, 250mg or even 600MG ( it's used as an powerful antioxidant for nerve damaged diabetics ( diabetic neuropathy ) . People don't know it's a powerful chelator and since they arent taking it on it's half life they end up unknowingly experiencing heavy metal redistribution ) EDIT : I found no 50MG ALA bottles online or in Amazon. I'll walk around local Pharmacies and nutrition stores to see if they actually have some so that I don't have to wait for shipping / pay delivery costs.

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[...] A toxic person’s days seem a whole lot shorter than other people’s. Much time is spent being tired, unfocused and disorganized. Time and energy is lost looking for misplaced objects. Tasks are repeated or picked up again after they have been dropped and forgOtten in mid-stream. " Lol, I kind of resonate with this one. It made me giggle .

[...] No matter how many methylating supplements you take, you cannOt remethylate that mercury. It is Stuck inside you behind lipid barriers and it will never come out on its own. To sum things up: in mammals and birds, methylation has nothing to do with detoxifyng mercury. In fish, methylation keeps the mercury in them safe. NOthing you can do about methylation will help your detoxification pathways clear out mercury. You don’t have the right enzyme. You can’t remethylate mercury. Only fish can remethylate mercury.

I've watched Leo's video on his detox protocol and basically he says to take 30mg per KG of bodyweight of DMSA ( at once ) - before the urine test - and then inmediately do a 3 day ACC procol. That's 1800 ISH MG at once and then 200 MG every 3 hours for 3 days. However he also mentions that it may entail some risk, even though DMSA is a safe molecule, the metals it moves around aren't safe and if you happen to be " very toxic " it may be potentially harmful. He says - quote - " So you do have to be careful when you're doing these provoked tests . On the other hand this is really the only reliable way i feel like to test yourself so there's a bit of a kind of a risk reward trade-off there and you have to decide for yourself you know whether you want to take that risk because otherwise how are you going to know if you're toxic or not " - Bottom line - I'm thinking about maybe skipping the test until i've done some rounds and cleared some of that assumed heavy metal junk off my body, or perhaps I may also do a hocus-pocus 100$ hair test and post it on the ACC group to get an idea of how deeply toxic I may be ( before doing the provoked Urine test ) Or just "yolo it" ( following the given protocol ) and pray for the best. Or do more research. Leo's words on this : Anyone here has experience with DMSA provoked urine tests, or any thoughts? ACC FB group doesn't want anyone talking about urine tests to avoid " taking away time from the admins " since that is not the path they advocate.

some info just in case y'all had the similar question . [...] If you are lucky, you don’t have any amalgam fillings in your mouth. In this case, you can answer the question ofwhether you have mercury (or something else chelatable) quite easily: A therapeutic trial of chelation is the “acid test.” Any reaction, good or bad, to alpha lipoic acid is proof of toxicity with mercury, arsenic or antimony. To check for lead you will need to use DMSA. We suggest ten trial rounds, but be sure to follow the rules for chelating safely when you try this! If you have nothing to chelate, nothing will happen. If you have something to chelate, you will get a reaction. - From The Mercury Detoxification Manual Good news for me . Seems that taking these chelators wouldn't be toxic even if I don't have anything to chelate ( which is unlikely, but it was my worry since I'm not doing the provoked urine test OR the hair test ( for now )

" You can consider yourself done when you can get to 200 or 300 mg of alpha lipoic acid without any Side effects and without any further improvements. At that point, you should continue chelating for another six months just to be sure. From start to finish the process can take between one to five years or more, but much relief occurs along the way. So stop worrying and start chelating!

Lmfao I gave it to my dog. She sniffed it and now it's been laying on the plate for over 3 hours. It was expired for like 5 days though. i expected something more like this : wow, I have a gourmet dog.

I'm looking for a reliable source of vitamin A. I thought about high quality cod liver oil but it's expensive, and the ones that I've seen haven't been tested for heavy metals. I do have access to 100% grass fed grass finished beef?? liver, but as you see in the screenshot I have some concerns and questions. Thoughts?

[,,,] The rules about how to take chelators and the warnings we give you are inflexible. Other parts of the protocol are flexible because they are net well defined scientifically and people really are different. How you decide to take supplements, for instance, is flexible, although some of them need to be taken three or four times a day in order for them to be effective. 50 mg or 100 mg of any chelator is enough to get better. Higher doses may speed things up somewhat, but a lot less than you think. High doses are useful because side effects will let you know where you stand in regards to chelatable toxins.

[...] If you are lucky, you don’t have any amalgam fillings in your mouth. In this case, you can answer the question ofwhether you have mercury (or something else chelatable) quite easily: A therapeutic trial of chelation is the “acid test.” Any reaction, good or bad, to alpha lipoic acid is proof of toxicity with mercury, arsenic or antimony. To check for lead you will need to use DMSA. We suggest ten trial rounds, but be sure to follow the rules for chelating safely when you try this! If you have nothing to chelate, nothing will happen. If you have something to chelate, you will get a reaction.- The Mercury Detoxification Manual Good news for me . Seems that taking these chelators wouldn't be toxic even if I don't have anything to chelate ( which is unlikely, but it was my worry since I'm not doing the provoked urine test OR the hair test )

" Cigarette smoking causes significant cadmium exposure both to the smoker and those around them" - The Mercury Detoxification Manual . Confirmed. Life long passive smoker here . [...] Chelating cadmium is slightly different from chelating other metals. It chelates with DMSA but you need to alkalinize your urine while you are doing it. We encourage you to consult Hair Test Interpretation for more detailed information. Ugh - What ?

cool share, thanks! - ill watch later

I haven't done a test. Should I do a hair test and post it on the ACC group ? I'm still consindering. I have not much to loose besides 130-ish € to be honest. I'm still kind of unsure about the big dmsa dose urine test. About the Core 4 supplements : [...] These should be taken every day, on or off round, and for at least two weeks prior to starting the protocol. Many people report feel better just by starting the core 4! We recommend trialing one supplement at a time, working up to the full doses. Since people can be sensitive to different things, it's easier to determine the culprit and look for an alternative form when introduced in this manner. You will also be able to understand exactly how your body reacts to each supplement. Although you can introduce them in any order, Vitamin C is a good first choice, followed by magnesium. Then Vit E and zinc. " .

Mercury - The Quintessential Anti-Nutrient article 27 PAGE PDF. Insightful read about mercury sources and symptoms. I'll leave it here. - Random comment - I love using a Google extension that reads out loud the text that I select. It helps me with staying focused and understanding what I read. - . . . " Some foods high in free thiols : Legumes, dairy, the cabbage family, eggs " - A few days ago I had very bad night after eating poached eggs right before sleep. Coincidence ? Who knows.

I'm curious if my life-long tinnitus will clear / improve after I'm done with some chelation rounds. Good to know : Chelation coaching exists. In case for some reason I unknowingly fuck up, there is somewhere to turn to, even though it may be somewhat expensive : https://www.maybeitsmercury.com/sign-up-for-coaching https://chelationcoach.as.me/Initial-Consult

@Striving for more hey, long time no see. Just be extra careful since I remember you mentioned having mercury teeth work. Make sure you do the extra step of double checking everything and going slow and steady. That being said, feel free to post and use my journal for info. Hope you're doin well.

ON STARTING DOSES !! G O L D -- " Protocol Abbreviated " " [...] Starting dose depends on the severity of the illness. Those who are seriously sick or frail would start with a LOWER dose. Always start with one chelator and find the appropriate dose for you before adding a second chelator. A general suggestion for adults is to start at doses of 12.5 mg for trial rounds (frail adults start at 6.25 mg or even lower). - - - My smallest DMSA pills are 25mg. I do have the 12.5 ALA ones. Should I buy the smaller version ( DMSA ) ? - To be researched - - - [ . . . ] If side effects are too much then stop the round and trial half that dose in the next round. If there are no side effects at all then the next round trial double the dose. Once you find the dose where side effects are manageable, stick with that dose for several months before increasing. Increases are then generally 50% of the current dose. If you are using 2 chelators (ALA and DMSA or ALA and DMPS) only increase one chelator at a time and adjust to that dose before increasing the dose of the other chelator. When you can chelate at 3 mg/kg doses of ALA without any side effects on or off round and there are no further improvements to your health conditions, chelate for another 6 months and you are done. For DMPS and DMSA there is not much extra to be gained by going above 25 - 50 mg doses ... " - End of quote. About that last statement, Leo's reference paper said that there are SIGNIFICANT improvements in chelation results in a dosage of 30mgxKG than lower ones. So this is basically what i'll be building up to.

I found the old thread. This one is good to remember.

Good notes: " Start on the core 4 supplements for at least 2 weeks before starting chelation. " ➡ Link should work if you've joined ACC FB group. I'll use these links from now as it's really useful for reference. " Chelators are dosed at the half life: " " When DMSA and ALA are used together the dose interval is every 3h or less (with the option of 2 x 4h stretches at night). For example, every 2 hours is fine but every 5 hrs is NOT.) " --- I'd rather just wake up more often and make sure not to screw up anything. So nope to the 2x4 stretches at night . --- " [...] One of the things you can try if you are struggling with chelation is to take the chelators more frequently. It is somewhat common for people to feel a smoother chelation experience when they take ALA every 2 hours, DMSA every 2 or 3 hours, or DMPS every 6 hours. Whether this will help you or not is entirely individual and you will have to try it to find out what works for you. "

Round Lenght Calculator ( From ACC Group ) I'll leave this here. Doesn't seem that useful for now ...? --- I also shot a message to my dentist double checking for the material used for my dental implant. It's titanium and that's fine .

I found the DNA test that Leo recommended - "23andme" . It's a saliva test ( world-wide shipping ) for about 80 USD + shipping . With this you get access to your genes and you can look for certain gene mutations that may hinder heavy metal detox . If you got them, you can asume chelation is for you. That's my understanding for now. - To be further researched - Quote from Leo's video on Chelation : I don't think I'll be doing for that now. Already chunked my budged for this month with almost 400€ on chelation supplies, and thats without the 200€ on urine tests ( I'f I decide to do them )

Today was good. I found out LOTS of practical info. I found out that the UK DMSA provider also has lots of good supplements ( like the Adrenal suplement Andy Cutler recommends ) The adrenal cortex suplement is kind of expensive but I'll try it out anyways. I have never done any adrenal gland testing, and it's suposed to be taxed a lot during heavy metal chelation , so as long as the suplmenet doesn't have any potential negative side effects I'll go for it . Another heavily taxed organ would be the Liver. Some of the most recommended supplements by Andy are " Milk Thistle " and " Artichoke Extract " These are just the brands I picked. Remember I'm a " noob " learning so they may not be the exact dosage but I'm trying to be wise here and follow the recommendations. EDIT : Woops ! turns out the Milk Thistle I bought isn't it. I'll have to send it back. It's missing the " 250-750 mg of silymarin " part. I found a different one that has it . Correct " Milk Thistle Extract " Besides that, I ordered ONE of THE BOOKs. Now I feel I'll have some more guidance besides asking random forum members and scrolling through the facebook group ?. Just about 25 € , totally worth. I also purchased the following : Two DMSA x100MG ( 50 capsules each ) Two DMSA x50MG ( 90 capsules each ) One DMSA x25MG ( 90 capsules ) ( I',m thinking about starting with one 25MG pill every 3 hours for the rounds - to be researched more- ) One ALA x 12'5MG ( 90 capsules ) --- I just purchased this kind of randomly . I don't know if that's a safe starting dose but I think I read somewhere that it would be okay. Worst case scenario I'll just order a lower dosage ALA. But you gotta start somewhere and intuition was telling me this could do the job. Adrenal Cortex ( already mentioned before ) And lastly, " Zinc Picolinate x50MG ( 120pills ) - thats not the brand Leo uses but it is the same dosage. I then ordered " The Big 4 " from Amazon, which are supplements that help to protect, cope and negate the negative side effects of chelating. That is: Vitamin C ( Exact Leo's brand ), - - - EDIT : Since Leo takes one 500 MG pill every 3 hour chunk of the chelation round, and ACC recommends that you take all of these supplements both ON and OFF round, I'll also purchase this same Vitamin C supplement but in a higher 1000MG dose, since ACC recommends only 4 doses , 4000 - 8000 MG per day in total. I'll be doing the 500MG every 3 hour ON round ( as Leo shows ) and the " just 4 doses a day " with the big pills , as ACC recommends. I don't think this is a big of a deal, but I just felt like it may be better this way. Magnesium Citrate - Not the same, but seems to be decent enough -. I already regularely take Magnesium Glycinate ( used by Leo ) and I know I tolerate it well ( under 300MG, otherwise I get mild stomach cramps and possibly diharrea ). I hope Magnesium Citrate is not " magnesium Shitrate " for me as some people have reported lol ) Vitamin E ( Exact Leo's brand ) Zinc Picolinate - that I purchased off Mandimart - since the one Leo showed isn't to be found in EU, or I just haven't found it. Also I purchased the Pill box - it's 31 slots since it's designed to be pill box for a whole month, but It seems to be perfect for chelation. Rather than purchasing four one week boxes, I can fill all the doses in this one " one month " container . ( 8 doses per day, per 4 days = 32 . I take the first dose by hand and all the rest are set in the box. I plan to be doing 4 day rounds ( and at least 4 day off ) so if the individual containers are big enough to fit in all the pills, this would be ideal. Andy recommends that I'f you feel well ON round, stretch it one day further each time, as Longer rounds are BENEFICIAL if you can handle them well. Don't forget to rest an equal ammount too .