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This is an absolutely terrible situation, don't get me wrong . Nevertheless what I'm saying is that EVEN THAT you are imagining, not in some mystical magical cloudy way, but literally " feeling others pain" doesn't exist. When you "feel it", it is an emotional reaction caused inside of your body , caused by your mental filter of how you make sense of what you perceive. Therefore it's possible to turn off that ability of " empathy " or imagining others pain if it is causing you harm. I'm not talking about becoming a psychopath, let's not straw man this. Personally I'm an extreme empath, but suffering when others are suffering is optional. Understanding this is advanced metaphysics and I don't expect anyone comprehending the insight that easily What do you mean with Oneness-Suffering worldview?
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@jimwell can you elaborate? I don't understand where we disagree. I was pointing out that when you suffer because other's suffering ( aka empathy ) is because you are imagining their suffering It's the difference between stepping on an ant consciously and feeling negative emotions , and stepping on it accidentally and unconsciously and feeling nothing, and imagining the pain of an imaginary ant that's being stepped on in your mind You are generating the emotions . You don't actually feel others suffering. If you don't imagine it you don't suffer yourself. This is actually pretty advanced metaphysics and many people will not be able to make sense of it Since this is the mechanism of how Empathy works, if OP is miserable because of other's suffering, it is a valuable skill to turn it off on command, and turn it on after a break I called it "OCD" very lightly, not in the clinical sense. He compulsively imagines others pain and suffering making himself miserable. That suffering is just a partial truth, and if you focus on it too much it will make your bitter, resentful, restless and overly emotional
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@NilsiSome food for thought , from different perspectives : Even if you were to spend every single second of your life working, getting minimal sleep and optimizing your productivity to your maximim, working your ass off to the very fullest, you would barely move an inch towards solving " humanities pain and misery " . I dont share this for you to get depressed and unmotivated. It's a truth of life that is actually freeing you to choose WHAT DO YOU PERSONALLY FIND MEANINGFUL Consider that unless you consciously choose it, it is not your job as a human being to save others from suffering and pain. And if so, choose a specific niche problem that you find meaningful solving, that aligns with your personal strenghts , values, prefered medium, domain of mastery and zone of genious ( yeah a Life Purpose ) and make your life's work about solving it. You triangulate all of this so that the time of your life that you spend on it is as meaningful , fulfilling and rewarding as possible . Remember that a Life Purpose is your career, your life's impact and contribution to the world. It is a big part of your Life , but it's not the entirety. Chronically spending more than about two chunks of 4 hours per day on your Career, no matter how much you love it, will most likely end up being counter-productive . It will end up negatively affecting the other areas of your life . Work-life balance is real. The balance looks differently at different chapters of your life . A Human being has more needs besides a Career and Life Purpose. You have social needs, sexual needs, physiological needs, finantial needs, cognitive needs, biological needs, curiosity for life, etc Identify what are your needs and work on fulfilling them consciously rather than unconsciously. In what way is your career not fulfilling ? Work on that. In what way do you find meaningful connecting with others? Architect your social life so you can meet this need in that specific way. More food for thought : Empathy is self manipulation. You don't have access to others suffering. You imagine it. And mostly it's less acurrate than it actually is . Your negative emotions and suffering is manually generated by your mind, in an unconscious way. I see that you are aware that if you "stop looking" and imagining others emotions and difficult situations, your suffering dissapears . And you say you want to feel deeper, which is a noble desire, but I advise to learn how to turn "empathy and that negative imagination" on and off on command . You already have it partially turned off. You are not connected to the suffering of the current 8.000,000.000 people. you are not connected to the suffering of the 100,000,000,000 human beings that have stepped on this planed, and not to talk about all the animals, insects, vegetation and so on, currently alive and throughout all of time . Not being able to turn off empathy and disconnect imagining others suffering would be acertain OCD in my opition, and is a recipe for unnecesary suffering . More food for thought : Desire is an unconscious contract we make with ourselves to be unhappy untill we archive what we want. Over and over . It allows you to leverage negative emotions for extra fuel you wouldn't have if you knew how to be satisfied with less. It is absolutely useful- but for a certain stage of your life. Think deeply before letting go of it . I have spent my early twenties deconstructing my motivational systems and have access to " unconditional happiness " and " bliss on command" states. It's great, but on the other hand this doesn't fit my personallity since im very creative and have yet to establish a fulfilling career as a finantial backbone for my life . I have accidentaly unraveled it at the wrong stage of my life, because I didn't know better . Now I'm spending the second part of my twenties manually reconstructing my reward and motivational mechanisms from the ground up. Unconditional happiness to that extreme degree makes you a lazy sloth and ends up backfiring in multiple ways, as you have correctly intuited. It's very counter productive to what the mechanics of being a part of society requiere of you. Unless you have nailed your LP or have enough income for a lifetime, I'd think twice about letting go of that mechanism . But let's not get stuck in black and white thinking here . What I advise you here is to be more open to your intuition rather than relying on negative feelings and drudgery. You can find motivation, meaning, happiness and guidance in other ways : What do you love doing ? what do you find beautiful ? what sparks your curiosity and interest ? What absorbs you so much you want to master it ? What inspires you ? What kind of contribution or impact on the world / humanity / others do you find meaningful ? How can you leverage your values, strenghts and interests to build a meaningful career ? If you follow that intuition, unless you have serious health issues, you will still be productive without having to rely on negative motivation and suffering. I'm happy to elaborate more if any of this has sparked your curiosity .
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@Francis777 can you define your Kundalini symptoms ? I see that term thrown around quite a bit and never know when it's acurrate or misdiagnosed
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Gleeking. Shooting saliva from your salivary glands
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mmKay replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sounds like Buddhist critter fantasies Bypassing suffering is a fantasy. Learning unconditional happiness will shortcircuit your human motivational system . In practice you will be very dysfunctional. Sustaining it for 20 years ( or even a lifetime) is more fantasy. This is not something healthy nor reasonable to strive towards Desire is a deep software in your brain for you be unhappy untill we archive what we want. Over and over. It doesn't happen to be useful for survival just by accident. Be extremely careful screwing around with your System 32 files. -
mmKay replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empath " A sense-of-duty is also a virtue or personality trait that characterizes someone who is diligent about fulfilling individual duties or who confidently knows their calling. "
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Screw personallity tests. Let's do it properly. How valuable is it for Self-Understanding to have a big picture list of all personallity traits and their definitions? How valuable is it for understanding others? How valuable is it for understanding your relationships? This is why I'd like us to recompile definitions for all personallity traits. This could provide a profound new layer of clarity for your life and what your strengths and preferences are, therefore allowing you to architect and live a more fulfilling life. Let's get all the basic ones but also look out for less known ones. My fave Personallity Trait finds for now ( I took the first one absolutely for granted my entire life): Wikipedia: Need for Cognition Efficiency-orientation. The tendency to Min-max Wikipedia : Perfectionism. Understand its positive and negative tendencies Wikipedia: Grit ("long term ambition") Wikipedia: Novelty seeking Ambiguity Tolerance I don't know if it's possible to absolutely lack a trait. I feel it's more of a degree on a spectrum.
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Bump
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Never dip your fingers in the everglades
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Woah!!! Primitive water filter with just branches!! Mind-blowing
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Okay, but what are you talking about in concrete, tangible terms? This is still very vague, which seems to be part of the problem holding us back from giving proper answers Vague questions get vague answers
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What does pursuing spirituallity mean to you? What do you exactly mean with getting shit done?
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@jacknine119thats what's called the foot-in-the-door method of indoctrination You start with being curious, watching from a distance, slowly inching your way towards deeper brainwashing. Before you know you're stuck in there without even knowing how you got there' or that you're inside a cult. Maybe the only way for you to learn this lesson is to seriously get stuck in one for a decade, which in that case I'd be sorry
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mmKay replied to emil1234's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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mmKay replied to emil1234's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's not only behind your back If you look at your hands , there is always a side you're not seeing. Same with everything and everyone else See video: what is actuality? -
curiosity kills the cat
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Jesus
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mmKay replied to Recursoinominado's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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More naughty swamp puppies
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Anglerfish mating is remarkable The male is 40 times smaller than the female and they fuse for life into one
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Jesus this documentary about lions is straight up movie material Here is a trailer
