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If you meant on a deeper level, then I'd say when my eyes are open, I see the interelatedness and voidness of no-thingness.

The idea of a "must" is a interesting one to look into and I encourage this. Must from whom? No one chooses to wake up, but at some point in life people do find themselves drawn to this "spiritual" pull to look deeper into the everyday grind and perhaps what it is all about. One feels this in the experience of choice sometimes and sometimes its in the realm of a mysterious surrendering to you can't put your finger on at that point. If you feel like you have a lot of choice to do this or that I encourage you to ask yourself what is most important now and go for that even if it is that you want to make a good living or raise a family. If you feel drawn to a mysterious pull to find out who you are and you feel the others, they aren't incompatible.

I ask this to know your intentions, not a challenge or to shut you down, just want to be real with each-other.

Depends on what you mean by free will. And this is more important to your growth then an answer I could give you. Really look into what "you" mean by "free" and "will".

Lol depends on the light levels outside. Any questions that pertain to your understanding and growth?

Is this for you, or to test me?

Just making videos? Man way to make me question my worth... Lol j/k. Ya I'm sharing what I can hoping it helps others awaken and suffer less. I also have a practical job as a Body Worker/Healer type of thing 25 hrs a week. Wife, no kids a house. Do some working 1-1 with people who are interested in this "enlightenment" stuff.

Ya thats the flip side of what I was pointing to. You ever thought of just not going into any of this spirtuality mumbo jumbo for a while, seeing what other things are out there in the time being? Or maybe you are, what is your other hobbies and enjoyments?

Yes well said, AND theres no inherent "problem" to any of it, even the problems we spiritual people like to create sayings like, thoughts shouldn't happen, if one isn't or if Im not loving enough I'm not on the right path or getting towards enlightenment, I need to have this or that awakening in order to get more enlightenment,, or meditate in order to do this and if you don't your not awake enough, or if you breath a certain way or don't its an issue, or if you don't make enough money it means this about you or that person, or I need to have this or if I dress this or that way or say this or that kinda thing I'm not spiritual or getting closer to enlightenment. A big ingredient at least in my experience is the recognition of there is no problem in the most absolute sense of the phrase (and even if you don't get that, there still is no problem). I took this to an extreme that life living or not living, mine or another just is and is not a problem, health disease just are and are not problems, evolution not evolution, becoming enlightened (what ever that idea is) or remaining the same is not a problem. I don't know if others will have the same process or effect of letting that sink in, but for me it was unbelievably freeing.

I hear ya.

If you haven't I think a lot of you guys on here and what your seeking is strongly communicated in her presence and words. Enlightenment is a multidimensional expression and she definitely embodies an aspect that I think a lot of you guys and gals are wondering about and looking for. She's also female which is rarer in this realm of awakened teachers which offers an interesting component.

Hehehe, look deeper.

Look at all the shoulds and rules you still try and act by in order to be "correctly Being enlightened". I know you've had experiences and your genuinely interested in discovering what this all means, but if you want to see and understand more, find it within yourself to look at what Arhattobe and I am saying.

Hey Soul, I think your first two paragraphs have to to with the idea that theres more to understanding Self/Life/God then just Emptiness and Fullness and Awareness even maybe, and I would agree. And yes some consider the realization of emptiness "god" or the ground of Being, or any number usages of words to convey meaning/Absolute meaning and it can get very confusing and hairy when you try to really get what someone means or even what You mean, lol. And yes there are many doctrines that teachers and students adhere to with specific words and meanings to mean that your enlightened if you are doing such or realized so. Even the notion that if it doesn't lead to liberation its not useful is a hard one to quantify, at least in my eyes, because under scrutinization it "seems" to me that not many people awaken and reside in emptiness or understanding of god, or flow, or self realization even though they were doing all the "right" things and listening to Buddha or Ramanha or any well regarded "awakened" guru/master. So were they just bad teachers or students, or is there more to this then meets the eye? So to me, I leave a lot open and dont try to be to critical or judge and do my best to accept a wide range of people and their realizations, even if I'm not sure 'EXACTLY' where they are coming from. Because its all "God". So again about the video I posted, to "me", what ever that is, she seems to embody a piece of the picture in the broad sense, in the world of hard to pin down, what is what, and what means what, a communication of stillness/emptiness/authenticity, even if she appears to contradict (although theres lots of paradoxs that just are and to voice them puts you in a position to be judged by minds that dont see in such very well, including mine sometimes).

I find really not knowing and being able to see and understand as many lifes whether animal or human, reasons for ones actions, all the possible causes of actions ranging from scientific, biologic, social, environmental, etc.. , practicing non judgment, meditating on the heart chakra, can all have their effect on manifesting what you seek.

Being kind, Meditation, self inquiry, surrender, facing the mortality of nature, drop being entitled to anything.

Your body may not be ready for meditation. look at yoga for now to prepare the body for spiritual energy from meditating. This is not my strong suit so maybe someone with more knowledge can elaborate, or Tony maybe you can do some reading on yoga as preparation for the body to meditate.

I made mention of this in the first post, its not the full thing, but she conveys something very strongly that some people are looking for and want a taste of even if its partial and not the full picture, but honestly who do you feel as a teacher conveys all understandings and realizations and has videos online, because I'm not sure I know who that would be or what that may even look like, since I dont know what the limits of realization are, if anyone could say they know.... And I would strongly argue that she is just coming from the concept of "still" "empty", I think shes fairly immersed and has a good deal of experience to speak from in this department, but you may be right about the other stuff.

Sounds authentic. In terms of linguistics and how you put it into words, all the way up until "enlightenment" happens and "after", people of all types, philosophers, already "enlightened", students, will all have varieying usages of what they mean by their words, different facets of what they woke up to, and differences of opinion as well, so don't get caught up in peoples critique of what you felt and say, but still be open to finding out and learning.

You know I've only ever heard you complain in every post I've seen you in. Your pretty negative for a guy who claims to know a lot about what truth is, or rather what truth isn't. edit: Well upon further investigation it seems you have more to say then negativity, so I retract my comment.

Pretty much what arhabotte said just in a different way.

Again this isn’t a math test in which having the right answer will give you a good grade and you can then say you know this equation and pat yourself on the back about and show others. The refinement your looking for will slowly happen if you drop this labeling and knowing where you are in relation these ideas. You may feel like your dicks out in the wind and people are driving by pointing for a while but just keep it out there and don’t know who you are or react to those around you. Sure smile and be kind but leave having to prove behind.

Again let go of this idea. Your holding onto something that is a belief.

Hi December flower. Not knowing can be much like no mind or lead to no mind and it’s something anyone can begin with. You just have to get use to anxiety happening sometimes and understanding that it’s as a result of the mind not knowing and not a problem In You That needs fixing or means something wrong in the world you need do something about to create safety. For example if you take it upon yourself to look into your beliefs about yourself or the world. A lot of them would be false. For example a lot of people believe for fact that the Big Bang is the explanation for the start of the universe. However if your really honest your probably just taking someone’s word for it and don’t know. Even if you did know and see all the evidence it’s still just a likelihood not a fact. Or if you have an idea that maybe your fat and no one like you because of it is probably just your idea and the truth is you don’t know what ‘everyone’ thinks about you. Maybe just a few people who shared a momentary opinion (these change to and aren’t fact and stable either and can be a relief to realize about opinions since we hold to much weight about them). Or maybe you think if you get lots of money and friends you will be happy. But if your really honest you don’t know what will happpen and if these friends will turn out to be more of a pain then you hoped or the money just led to people wanting more from you or made you want to go spend spend spend and this leaves you drained. Get what I’m saying? Also yiu May notice that this investigation leads to a lot of wisdom about yourself and others along with really not knowing much for certain (this is a type of freedom you learn to appreciate if you can get through the challenges of anxiety and why not that your mind will sometimes depend and scream ? to know)

First you need to let go of the fixed rule you have that we are just witness with no capacity to choose. Now I’m not saying now believe that we choose and are not witnessing. Really don’t know.