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I don't usually follow Jordan Peterson's work, but I don't care about who he is when he says something that is of good quality. I realized this same thing when I was contemplating what it means for one's masculinity to be healthy - be truthful about your true intentions, be authentic even if it means to behave unconsciously, if you aren't the real you, if you are hiding things, you cannot move forward. Realize your devilry, then think about it, embrace it fully and let go.

@CreamCat Thanks for sharing! @flowboy It's like as if I heard myself talking when I read that

@Yog Even if you are high up there in the spiral, you need constant willingness to live joyfully. It is not like you get the status of a turquoise person and then you can go back to using stage orange methods to figuring stuff out.

@Yog Also realize, that being purple doesn't mean jumping in fron of the train, being red doesn't mean not caring about your family, being blue doesn't mean intending to be absolutely powerless, being orange doesn't mean being immoral, being green doesn't mean being undisciplined, being yellow doesn't mean that you stop caring about the environment and being turquoise doesn't mean, that you stop acquiring empirical knowledge. It's the opposite.

@Leo Gura You mean illusion is as real as it gets?

@Hello from Russia Being a yoga or meditation teacher might lead to a lot of devilry and hypocrisy, since @Ampresus is not experienced enough. Don't take it personally or anything, but I just don't think you have enough knowledge for these things yet.

@Yog If you are having a nihlistic crisis - is the good feeling that is there in the present moment not worth the effort?

I just found this video interesting, but of course he is just copycatting Carl Jung here. It's just that he said it really nicely in this vid. If you want to integrate your personality, meditate everyday so your mind becomes clear. Observe yourself, question why you do all the things you do, why you communicate in a certain way, why you manipulate people etc... Be brutally honest with yourself about these things. Then when you see the devilry in your behavior, you can then realize, that you actually don't want to do these things, even though you are absolutely free to do them, and choose the things that works the best for you. The brutal honesty part is crucial, if you cannot identify yourself with that who you are at the moment (I don't mean True Self now, but of course you can „progress“ towards that), then this all is just mental masturbation. Also your mind has to be really clear, otherwise you will miss many things. What you discover will be shocking, be prepared for anything that arises.

@Serotoninluv ?

@Yog Check out the youtube channel Universal Man, I think it will be of great use for you. The guy talks a lot about dopamine detox. I suggest you to free your mind of attachments and desires, breathe, let go of them. You need to realize what it is like to be willing to grow, what it is like to be willing to procrastinate and then when you let go, you get freedom from both. I think people really have a rebelious nature, they don't do something because something/someone tells them, they want to do their own thing. Be your own man, be authentic, be boundless. Embrace your attachments and desires and then let go of them. Take it easy.

I think this is still orange motivation, wanting to be higher up in the spiral. I had a very similar problem and it really was the case that I was still orange at a time. But being orange is not bad, you shouldn't neglect that you can still use the orange part of yourself, it is a part of the path. Of course, if you think that I am wrong, just ignore this, but seriously contemplate this possibility. I think you are just doing too much theory without practising properly. You will always know more than you actualize in real life, it's ok if it is like that, it cannot be any other way. If you want a more developed sort of motivation, do the practices, because it makes you feel better. What „higher“ motivation is there? Would anyone do the practices if it made them feel terrible and unhealthy? If you realize some toxic behavior about yourself, be truthful, don't just overlook it, you have to be the real you in order to grow, if you are working on some mental construct of yourself that is not authentic, you aren't really progressing. You might already be yellow, but always stay humble, don't look down on other because they are lower stages or your past self! That is an important part of developing into yellow. Good luck! ?

@Chi_ ? Have a nice trip to India.

@flowboy Nevermind, neither of us can see inside her mind, thanks for sharing your opinion

Visualization and letting go techniques work well for me, for example, if I feel like jerking of, I visualize myself as a good quality man who can have an amazing relationships and it often times actually works, my communication skills become better, I have higher sex drive etc... If I feel like manipulating, I just breathe out and let go. Maybe try that, you might fail a few times but if you really trust your positive thoughts, it can have a lasting effect imo. You have to sincerely trust it.

@Ampresus I've seen you create a thread similar to this multiple times in the past, do you actually meditate? I think it's very hard to quit porn without meditating, but after you start and quit porn, everything else will be easier. Just watch out for self-deception and manipulation, stay vigilant, listen to your body and sensations.

@Bill W I see, for me it already makes a difference after like 3 days, probably I was very addicted. @oMarcos That's how I did it, now I am on no-fap and it feels amazing, girls are more beautiful also

@Fede83 What about social media and videogames? You can use social media to contact wonderful people and video games to learn English (it's really effective and fun way to learn)

@Bill W Well, I wanted to say something completely different I am not a native speaker lol. How come you dont do nofap?

@Shiva Sure, thanks for contribution

@Fede83 Is an axe good or bad?

@Psyche_92 Don't worry, the time will come for you again

@Shiva Yeh, I don't like this aspect, but still you need lots of money for financing space projects. This topic really is very tricky... @Leo Gura Thanks for your update Maybe if Joe Rogan put some goodies in the weed they smoke together, that might help.

@Shiva But we still need computer, space exploration and renewable energy, so what is your alternative? Do you think there is currently a way to do the same thing more consciously? What exactly is wrong about working hard?

@Charlotte Yeh I was also a bit unsure, but I really tried to make it too stupid to be true This tells us something about our expectations of this forum's members though.

@Shiva It's funny how certain people use words like zen, meditation, Enlightenment, enlightening, awakening, consciousness in so weird ways, it's like they are orange, but trying to appear to the higher stages or talk about something they don't understand to seem more knowledgable. But still I feel like Elon is doing a great job, we certainly need people like him.