Shadowraix

Enlightenment won't pull you out of the dream. You can't escape what you are. But it will eliminate all resistance to what is. That's been my progress. But really all of this is mental masturbation on what we theorize enlightenment to be. Instead of talking about it we should be doing the practices. Most of us here have no idea what it's like. But we crave to know what we are going after. Embrace the unknown.

You won't destroy it. But you can certainly transcend it.

This is the kind of corruption to teachings I was talking about. You do not understand what is being said and it will do you no good to take it on blind faith. This is why this is a path of self discovery. You'll have to go deeper if you actually wish to know.

Getting over it is quite the game. Look into pogo stuck if you like games that are so difficult it makes people rage.

@hamedsf This so much. The ego will corrupt any teaching when it starts identifying as everything. This kind of work goes against everything the ego wants and this is why we get so much resistance. You are much bigger than the ego whom is trying to identify as God. @ShaunDo you actually know what you are or are you just playing along in the mind? @Shaun Live for your sake too. This is ego backlash. Love yourself as much as you love those around you. Think about @Nahm words. Don't get caught up in all the ideas and concepts. If you have not truly experienced what Leo is teaching then you won't truly know what he means. Your ideas of it are self torture when it's not a actually it. Take responsibility and work on letting go. Just be. Suffering feels endless and hopeless, we resist it so much after all. But overcoming such hard times is exactly what makes us stronger and better. It's what makes us grow. We'd be completely different people if not for our struggles which teach us deep lessons about ourselves. Instead of escaping, listen. Listen deeply to what you are being told.

I love running in circles too. When the concepts outlive their usefulness, lets drop them shall we?

The hardest part is finding out what does and doesn't work haha this is where people debate for days on end.

It would probably be a lot of green stuff relating to policies from people like Bernie and/or Yang. Green seems to be the next natural step.

@Commodent Thanks a lot! I'll check it out.

@Commodent Got any actual good resources on working with chakras? There's lots of conflicting stuff and I never know what to follow.

No I'm saying if people take what Leo says and spins it off to use it to reinforce dualism and demonization tactics it's a reflection of theirs. If you've watched Leo's videos on the devil, morality, should statements etc you'd know he and many people here see past the trap of such things and merely use phrases like devilry as tools of understanding. I get your concern, so to those who don't get it, should be directed to the videos I mentioned. Leo is already moving way past such topics.

Whether you use it or not to perpetuate dualism and/or demonization is just a reflection of your own state of consciousness. If your explanation works for you, go for it! This is all mental scaffolding anyway. Different strokes for different folks.

@Conrad Beautifully said. To understand what Jesus was saying you must first realize it for yourself. ? Else it be corrupted. I can't begin to imagine how teachers can lead students through such a puzzle. Very tricky.

Because it aids their survival and most people are always biased towards that yeah?

This mechanism intrigues me. Like what exactly is going on that makes one person unable to keep themselves "together" and others totally fall apart? Is it resistance vs surrender? Getting too deep in your own head you believe everything? Lack of integration? My friends and I have seen people turn into an incomprehensible mess yet I came out fine doing incomprehensible doses. Its exactly why I struggle to recommend psychedelics to people.

As far as the Buddha I don't think they really use the word God because for many people it implies the idea of a deity. Some separateness of creator and creation. Theism and atheism are half truths, awakening would involve reconciling the two. You either go so atheist you experience nothingness and realize that's God or become so theist you experience God and realize that's nothingness.

All ideas until you actually see where the pointer is pointing to. You talk a lot about this stuff but based on my previous conversations with you, you admit you haven't had any direct realization of such ideas. So be careful here. Its just ideology in such instances.

Its sad. If we switched it from a criminal problem to a health problem like places such as Portugal and Switzerland, this would be less of an issue I think based on their success. I think Yang is for this notion based on policies like: https://www.yang2020.com/policies/decriminalizeopioids/

This desire to remove it is exactly why it won't go away. You are resisting this very desire which only reinforces it.

Very nice

I am talking about unconditional love, this is much more radical than your typical notions of love. This is a common trend you'll find in this work. When there is no ego calling the shots and you merge into oneness..there is only one thing to love. You.

If it wasn't for love, torture wouldn't be here. Neither would you or form. Unconditional love. Our notions of conditional love is adapted for our survival. It is all an expression of itself. Similarly to how characters in a book are an expression of the author.

Yeah I'm aware of this. My last statement was hinting at exactly why low consciousness people don't usually have such realizations. Such realizations are meant to be used with care and wisdom. Ever played the first Assassins Creed? Their Creed "Nothing is true, everything is permitted" was abused heavily to fuel Altair own desires then he comes full circle at the end to realize the wisdom that is needed to release the shackles of rules.

Yet it is ultimately God's doing that somebody isn't conscious of what it truly is. It still does make sense at least to me. Your will is always God's will whether you realize it or not and that includes low consciousness people. The decision of suicide or no suicide seems ultimately grounded in the relative. You could go either way and that's what ultimately God wanted. But this kind of realization seems to only come with higher states exactly because it would not be handled with care to someone in lower states. To the lower states it reinforces nihilism ideology with negative perceptions.

Better to say it is that and more. Saying something is God != to saying that's all God is. Quite the contrary when everything is God. ?