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@kieranperez This is exactly what I did. Only I started my own web development business which gave me a more or less passive income, and has given me a great base. It took 2-3 years to get off to where it is now (though I didn't push it hard) and you can easily learn web design and development in 6 months to a year. As Leo said, programming and scripting (and design / internet marketing) are super useful skills to have for any business. So maybe that is exactly what you need. By programming skills have also led to job offers building out a network of other entrepreneurs. Is this what I want to do with my life? Fuck no. But it has allowed me to move out about 4 months ago and live very comfortably on my own which has compounded my growth. Find what works for you, but I can definitely testify that web development works, it's a highly demanded skill. You probably know family and friends or they know someone who will need a website. It's pretty easy to get a business like this off the ground if you are good at what you do and willing to work cheap at a startup. I'd be happy to help you and point you in the right direction if you are interested. Or feel free to find your own way or do your own thing, whatever works for you.

Be careful, watching people freak out on Salvia and reading "bad trip" reports would make me approach this with caution. LSD is great for exploring your mind, having it reflect and loop back in on itself. Either with slightly higher doses or slightly lower (people vary). Maybe now that you've tried everything, the next step is just to surrender. Rather than labelling the headache as depressing, or thinking you wake up TOO early just inquire as to whether that is really true or not. Maybe this isn't the right advice, but just a thought.

Was keen to watch... But it's blocked. Maybe try uploading somewhere else.

@Reklan33 Haha, the most accidentally zen answer I've heard yet.

If I wanted to embrace that universal love, the unconditional and infinite love you can experience in a nondual experience or most psychedelic trips what would be the recommendation. Of course, you could say enlightenment, but that seems a little binary for me. I generally meditate 1hr+ per day and have seen little increase in my ability to love more fully and unconditionally, so whilst this is doubtlessly a way to get there, I believe there could be better ways. If meditation has been most effective for you, let me know and I will dedicate more of myself to this. This feels like a very important step on my journey right now. So what has been the most effective method to embrace unconditional love in your own life? I have some of my own ideas, but want to see what others have found to be effective in their own experience. Any and ALL thoughts are appreciated.

@karkaore Yes I have blacked out at high doses, however, you have to be extremely careful as the body can still move around during this time.

@Nathan Owen I like your 3 aspects of love: Protective, Forceful, Creative. I'll think about this a bit further.

Sure, we're just arbitrarily dividing the point at which it happens differently. We're fundamentally agreeing though. Can be, but not necessarily, and it's often the opposite. I see what you're saying about the neuroplasticity, I think you have a default mode, and situations (or your own will) can certainly force you into a new set of traits. In that sense you can grow, but unlike SD growth in Big Five is not evolution necessarily, just change. However, I think that contra-directional growth, that is, being able to temporarily embody the other side of the trait is definitely a form of growth.

@Wyze Big Five isn't really that fluid, and it doesn't have a built-in mechanism for growth or evolution. So I don't think they're too similar, but seeing both and integrating them into a more cohesive mental model is certainly useful. I agree with this, I think the moving up the spiral comes not from handling their neurotic traits, but in trying to find out how to handle them. For example, a miserable orange banker wants to figure out why money hasn't made him happy and so searches around. In this search he finds green values and in his desperation tries them on for size. Also psychedelics have been shown to increase trait Openness, so give someone some psychedelics and watch them evolve up the spiral

How often do you Trip now, and how often did you when you started? Where is the balance point? I've tripped 7 times now on LSD over a 12 month period, definitely had some trippy experiences, including a breakthrough dose. I know trip frequency and dose is probably highly subjective but listening to my feelings can get confusing as it could be me just giving into cravings -- even though it doesn't entirely feel that way. I feel like I would grow more if I trip more, but I could just be deluding myself. I also definitely have cultural baggage and this slight fear of becoming like a drug addict, needing to trip to get to a nondual state or needing to trip to have profound insights. Not that I feel that way (but does any addict?). In this case, I would be tripping on high-quality LSD, so that or Psilocybin would be the most accurate comparison (as opposed to 5-MeO-DMT frequency). Tripping every 2 weeks is obviously a good minimum for tolerance reasons, but was wondering if there might be other perspectives on why you might want to trip more or less frequently.

People need different things at different stages. Socialization is great for development, emotional mastery, knowledge building, skill building, etc. But not particularly useful for working towards enlightenment. In the beginning, best to get out there and be social and develop. Then probably better to become more introverted and isolated whilst working more deeply. Then, at some stage, you will return to society in a way no others have.

@TheAvatarState Definitely solid advice here! I got stupid and did 600ug because I was seeking that "sweet-sweet" ego-death. But you're right, ego-deaths on LSD at high doses can get fucking warped. I ended up trashing my place without realising it. Never trip alone on high doses, never trip alone on a new dose.

Openness is going to be a very helpful trait for moving up stages, not to mention a high Openness score is going to increase your likelihood of seeking out information like Spiral Dynamics. Other than that you can be Neurotic, Extraverted, or Conscientious at any stage. Perhaps high Agreeableness could hold you back to the stage of your culture and the surrounding environment, but it could also play to your advantage if you find yourself in the right environment. I don't think disagreeableness is likely to help though, as it tends to just be reactionary to whatever you are told rather than integrative.

@Leo Gura Yeah, I've seen glimpses and it scares the shit out of me every time.

Almost certainly.

@Sahil Pandit Thanks, I'll give it a watch. Figured I'd also add something myself. I've begun to see that love can best be shared when you become completely present and accepting of this moment. When you don't need anything other than what you have. In this state love can flow freely since it becomes non-needy. I have found sustained mindfulness helpful for this.

Sorry for the long post, a part of me needs to just get this out. There is a question, but I would be doing it an injustice without the backstory. Maybe someone can offer some insight or help as I'm not sure I can move through this one alone. After being emotionally hurt quite badly in my past I literally closed myself off from love, for perhaps the last 12-18 months. I could not let love come from an intimate relationship, let alone the entirety of existence. After some psychedelic trips I became aware of this, and of the importance of developing more love in my life. I KNEW that a part of this for me had to be finding a loving partner. I decided 2019 would be my year of love. Well, I met this beautiful girl, who shares many of my interests mid-December. We have been deep and open with each other. We had planned a proper date on the 3rd (today) and I had been looking forward to this for over a week. Yesterday I sent her a message as a reminder over Facebook. When I check back a few hours later her account is blocked, she has blocked me. I almost immediately fall into a deep depression like I never have before. That night I dream about her pushing me away without explanation, I wake up in a state of absolute panic. At 2am she messages me, she had completely forgotten about the date. This marks the 3rd time this has happened to me, others leaving me to sit alone waiting for them. But she never blocked me, it was just a mental fiction I had created. She was experiencing some personal shit in her own life that was eating her away and had to temporarily deactivate her account. We had a really beautiful conversation, though it didn't look like the date was going ahead. I asked her to message me when she wakes up, she doesn't. Again this spirals me into a depression and all my baggage starts to come up. Until she messages me (as I'm writing this). I have so much resistance to letting go of these mental stories in this one part of my life. There are so many other areas where I can just observe without reacting, let it come and go. But this has become a sticking point for me. It's like a part of me wants to suffer in romantic relationships of any kind, this pattern has expressed itself throughout my life since I was 5 years old. I push people away, and then when there is someone that I want to get close to they push me away. Within 3 days of 2019, my "Year of Love", for the first time maybe ever I contemplated the merits of suicide. I have slept most of the day or just laid on the floor. It breaks my heart. It's like I've become bipolar. My diet is solid, exercise, nature, meditation. Is this just a spiritual purging of past emotions that need to be expressed as I'm letting it. Or am I indulging in mental stories around the reality which is just causing more suffering on my part. I guess the obvious solution is just meditate more and become detached, but that almost doesn't feel right. Is my ego just deluding me? I almost knew I was opening up myself to all this pain when I decided to let love back in. But it's so much harder to bear that I thought, any help is appreciated.

@cetus56 Thanks, I like it.

@ajasatya Yes, by investiagting the beliefs I realised my self imposed suffering was actually making me less loving. Which was a massive help in dropping the need for it. I think I always had a belief of "To grow I must suffer" I realised my "goal" to become more loving was blocked by the mental stories which made me suffer, imposed by will on others, was controlling and needy. By dropping these beliefs and hence the suffering I could better align myself with unconditional love. Took some suffering to decide that though

@Pilgrim Seems to be Anxious-Preoccupied attachment style

@aurum Yeah, like paramedics that understand the gravity of the situation but don't stress themselves too much over it. Or the driver of the ambulance who goes fast, but I'm sure is loving it, and isn't panicked the whole way.

@Eric Tarpall Have you ever seen paramedics walk into a scene? Even if the person is minutes from death they just walk up really casually in their own time.

More to do with the practitioner than the style. Also, there is nothing wrong with something being blue. Martial Arts can be a very healthy form of Blue based on real respect and loyalty between people. There is also no way it's entirely blue. Not everything has to do with spiral dynamics, and it's not like "green martial arts" would be more effective than "blue martial arts" but probably very different. If you're not getting any benefits you can stop, but don't stop because you think it's holding you back from moving up the spiral. It's not. You are. Intuitive movements are quite bad when it comes to real self-defence, you don't want to be doing slow paced Tai Chi when someone is about to crack you in the head with a bat. Better to do a technique that is designed to deal with this most effectively (the best technique is don't be there in the first place). Each has it's place, I often enjoy just walking at night doing intuitive movements. I just wouldn't do that (to the same degree) with a sparring partner. Once you have built up enough skill, the techniques become very natural and you can be more fluid and intuitive.

@Jcent I've also thought of this before. I'm just gonna ramble here, maybe spark some ideas in you. I think this is the wrong mentality to be in personally. It's not that much harder to build the school to be cost effective from the start. It will be much harder to start high end and trickle down, unless that's a branding tactic. Your best bet is likely to look into a mix of Algorithm and Machine Learning to produce a curriculum based on the collation of as much data as possible. This could almost be a small bet, can you find some way to recommend learning material based on a quick survey or some background data collation. This way you can have an algorithm continually modifying and updating or shifting the learning material based on the user's growth. Who knows what the best strategy is, but I would make the university digital to start with. Less infrastructure cost, less cost to the user, increased ability to pivot rapidly, increased ability to gather data. Facebook and Google track your data in a way that they can advertise to you, if you can peek into their strategies for example and gather data on people (and be very open about it, and offer privacy options) to better target the learning they need that is of great use. Some things that would be useful to know to tailor curriculum to be fun: Big Five Personality Traits Spiral Dynamics Stage (current paradigm and values) Life Purpose (or rough career path, which the AI would clarify) Hobbies, interests and passions IQ A catalogue of everything they've read and studied The curriculum has to be more engaging than University is, and also better at getting results. To do this, data is required, whether that's intuitively done by a teacher -- or in my opinion the better option is concretely gathered by a ML algorithm. You need a feedback loop system. Almost like an adversarial network. Initial Survey > AI Tailors Curriculum > Student Learns > AI Learns how student learns (tailors) > Student learns better > AI learns better (tailors) > Student learns even better > AI Tailors > Student learns worse > AI really learns better. But almost like the Youtube recommendation algorithm, you don't know it's happening. In that sense it would also be good to be heavily self guided, if you are having some emotional issues you may want to learn more about that than economics at the moment. You could then have a distributed and remote team of trained facilitators who are quite developed themselves working on the social aspects. The AI could pull together recommended meetings with groups of like-minded and also not so like-minded people based on what it thinks is best. The beauty is that if you do it right, the algorithm only gets better. Basically, humans suck, especially when it comes to scaling. So let AI rule the world (carefully) haha. Anyway, this is all fantasy, getting a machine learning solution mixed with logic rules and data collation capable of achieving any of this is not gonna be easy. Not to mention you've already got an agenda and ideology that you will doubtlessly desire to push on people. But you seemed to be more in the brick and mortar mindset so I figured I'd give a different perspective. This was more a brain dump than anything for me.

@purerogue Thanks man, she continues to offer me a great opportunity for growth. I feel I've grown more emotionally these past few days than any other time.