SageModeAustin

@Thanatos13 Dude what? You sound like you don't really know what your talking about.

okay let me restate it. Sure there is no 'wrong' inherently. I can agree with that. BUT there is a wrong inherently to me, how it can hold me back from expanding my self, etc. In this sense it is wrong. I mean, why wouldn't you want to self actualize yourself as much as possible?

This is a LOT easier said than done though..especially when everyone around you is playing the value game. It just feels bitter-sweet to me, but i do see your point. It's certainly better than how i was thinking.

@Thanatos13 False. There is definitely something wrong with demonizing people for being ugly. Like what leo said, "Also realize that when you call anything in reality "ugly" you are actually disowning that aspect of reality, of yourself. Because the truth is, that ugly thing you hate is actually, literally, metaphysically, your very self. So you are placing yourself in an adversarial relationship with reality, with yourself! Which is the very definition of neurosis."

@Emerald Just subbed to your channel btw

Thank you everyone for your insights, extremely helpful. Especially @Emerald hit the nail on the head for me. I just realized i'm extremely brain-washed by pickup culture so this made me view sex as the central importance in my worldview. I can definitely see how this has caused a lot of suffering.

Okay i see your point. I'm not saying our value system in our head we created is useless rather it is causing problems. We are imposing value onto objects, people, animals all of the time unconsciously. This is the reason why people are soo..what's the word? Outcome dependent, needy, not content with themselves. Imagine you are passing out candy to people that you think are attractive or 'high value.' Then afterwards you try to get this candy back. You want their validation. You want to fuck that hot girl, you want to be friends with the cool kids, because they have 'high value' which means they can give you some of that candy back, that value back. Your placing some concept of value onto them and playing it accordingly. It's some bullshit game we play with ourselves. What i want to know is if it's possible to be able to see things as truly equal beings, vs the hierarchy scale we all see the world through.

we both know you don't believe this. You see a hot girl, you place her higher unconsciously and consciously.

Acceptance. I wish i could fly too, we've all been there.